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  1. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    https://bulgarianmilitary.com/amp/2022/12/09/poland-announced-its-intentions-to-participate-in-the-kf-21-project/ Oops...
  2. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I take the one on the pamphlet as more credible though. It's much more detailed and not lazy a*s 3D rendering like on the poster.
  3. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    Hmm... they maybe postpone it because of Kaesang
  4. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Wait for clearer scan of that pamphlet
  5. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    They still try to put VLS type AShM
  6. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    I doubt this news now. Already night now and no photos yet.
  7. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    AH140 first steel cutting let's wait
  8. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product5909.html
  9. Umigami

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Most probably the later
  10. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Where we get our 155 ?
  11. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

  12. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    I don't know which one is the newest. And Kaplan's boxy looks make that one I used more suitable artistically. although my edit doesn't looks artistic at all 🙃
  13. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    read again our discussion above, we suspect that wasn't brand new unit price.
  14. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    well, If Harimau is the most economic solution then... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙃
  15. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    According to Internet tank Jesus himself the difference between diesel and turbine fuel consumption is negligible now days.
  16. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Never mind that. Any fighter jet news from US ?
  17. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    I said K1A2
  18. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    It would much more plausible to become reality if they don't force everything in house / locally.
  19. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Wikipedia data: K1A2: 6 billion won = 4.5 million USD
  20. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Yeah. And it use L44 just like our Leo. We procure some of our 120 mm munition from Korea. It has K2 electronics too.

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