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  1. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    They still think Australia as enemy?
  2. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Let's put this Mirage where the adversary aren't that serious. Biak maybe?
  3. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    + 14 2nd hand Mirage 2000 = 3 squadrons worth mix French fighter
  4. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    1. Preparing IAF to get Rafale, might be this is somenkind of deal with French too. 2. 08 is Francophile. (Wait, all this we thought he love double engines so much right? Well, turn out that might be not entirely true.)
  5. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Rafale and Mirage are basically the same class from French. So they could search for heavy fighter from the same country which is Eagle too.
  6. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    They are affiliated with Lightning II chan
  7. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Nope. But they are pretty good in my opinion.
  8. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    So when we can't get 42 units Rafale target, we compensate it with 2nd hand mirage. Then If we can't get 36 units Eagle 2 target, what's we gonna do? Take 2nd hand Eagle C/D/E or J or S ? 🤣
  9. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    That 36 Rafales batch 2 got cut to 23 and this 14 Mirage 2000 is to compensate it. O... Kay... More info: 5 units from Qatar and 9 units from UAE. Contract already signed, Bappenas and MoF already agree. Nor now I'll take it as kabar burung.
  10. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Still, it's hard to justify this purchase as interim project even with that reasoning.
  11. Umigami

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Fancy Bridge isn't priority for us
  12. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    what do you think? When big red come in here, Do our 120mm L44 armed Leopards and 105mm Harimau already enough or we still need to invest in 130mm MBT? Do we need more Javelin or NLAW, or put more on standard RPG?
  13. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    That is mm40. Air launched is am39.
  14. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Did 08 have some issue with you guys (LM)? First F16v and now this.
  15. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Maybe not badif you think it as Hawk replacement. Maybe some upgrade from India is pretty good too
  16. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    What mirage? And No, they don't even has capapble BVR missile.

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