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  1. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    NOPE.... NOPE.... NOPE.... NOPE.... NOPE.... NOPE.... NOPE.... NOPE.... NOPE.... NOPE.... NOPE.... NOPE....
  2. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    we have to exploit this butthurt-French-situation to the max! Rafale, Scorpene, Caesar, missile tech ToT maybe...
  3. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    So, where we can get the tech? are you sure French want to do it? how about Russia? definitely not US, Brits, or China.
  4. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Contract? Contract what? No Contract yet for Scorpene. OR IS IT???
  5. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I think we should forget that 140+ Mutant IH. Too much risk. This babcock contract is a sign we are going with proven design instead.
  6. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    No this is not new procurement. AH video contradict that.
  7. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Already exists
  8. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    "Never been exist before"
  9. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    If it's DSME, NO.
  10. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Hayooooo tipun...
  11. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Isn't that just original Iver Huitfeldt APAR mast ?
  12. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Which one?
  13. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I think it's just AH error.
  14. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    The quetion now is who produce western AShM with VLS capability today?
  15. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    No. what I mean is at least the Mid one has to be CAMM.
  16. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    he said mid and long range SAM, and it has to be British so I put my money on CAMM.
  17. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Could be just 12, if he was just talking about how we arange it (12 VLS, all Med SAM or all Long SAM).
  18. Umigami

    News Indonesia - US - China Relation, and ASEAN. Whats going on?

    you can continue here.
  19. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    from his Video: 2 x 6 cells VLS for Medium range SAM 2 x 6 cells VLS for Long range SAM 2 x 8 cells VLS for AShM 2 x 76 mm oto melara 1 x CIWS 35 mm so VLS for SAM will be 12 or 24 ?
  20. Umigami

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

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