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His purpose for going to Germany was not Eurofighter jets and nothing he said there was wrong. If the Germans can't bear hearing the truth maybe they should change their ways. And as a country who put an embargo on Turkey with the express of aim of supporting the PKK terrorist organization...

So, let me ask something to the experts here about Kizilelma's performance against 4th gen aircraft. Not that it's an alternative to modernization of the F-16s or Kaan of course but many seem to be quite pessimistic about the A-A capabilities of KE whereas it seems like a very well-thought...

As long as funding for Kaan won't be affected, getting 20-40 F35 would be ideal both to bridge the time gap until Kaan becomes operational and also to learn more extensively the 5th gen characteristics by using F35 and participating in NATO exercises. S400s were not an ideal decision to begin...

Actually, Germany selling Eurofighters just got a lot more likely now that Americans are selling. There was no logical reason for denying the sale anyway. But it might be a bit overkill for us as the Viper/Ozgur numbers already present quite a sizeable investment in the 4th gen planes.

Kaan's first delay just got delayed for a few weeks which is quite normal. There doesn't seem to be any sign of the government using this for election purposes, at least not yet. Whenever elections approach some people get paranoid about what the government might be using for propaganda purposes.

It is a testament to the power of private sector that sending an astronaut to ISS got as ridiculously cheap as 55 million USD. We should turn this into a regular thing and have a couple of missions every year.

I disagree with this notion. Taking the command of robotic warfare away from the relevant units into a central command would rather reduce integration than increase it. At the end of the day, unmanned systems are tools that every unit has to learn how to use best in their own context. The...

It is hard to extract anything intelligible from your obnoxious tirades but you seem to have an irrational dislike toward Baykar. Their drones are not the only project Turkish defense industry has and Baykar certainly are not responsible for the production of AESA radars. It is also worth...

Do they really make the first flight on the given day? I would do it earlier on for both Kaan and ANKA-3 privately. Maybe they will do so as well and just not publicize.

That kind of moral relativism fails here because Sweden, due to the EU, also recognizes the PKK as a terror organization. So it’s not a “your terrorist, my freedom fighter” kind of situation. This is the main obstacle for their NATO membership, not F16s. The subject of PKK is more important...

Turkey’s objection to Sweden is due to the latter’s support of the PKK terrorist organization. It is absolutely outrageous that NATO allies or candidates support terrorism. Turkey is behaving in a surprisingly tempered way considering the abject moral failure of the opposing parties. The...

I think the concept of one advanced manned platform surrounded by multiple unmanned platforms of different functionality will be prevalent in the future. Right now that is the plan for 6th generation fighters in the airforce, but it will probably also be the case with the navy and the land...

That's not an insult and it's highly relevant to the subject.

Where is the insult?

That's something that occurred to me as well. Maybe they don't actually want to buy aircraft but they are putting the idea forward as a focus point for all the anti-Turkish villainous energy that would otherwise go toward something more damaging. But still, projecting military weakness is not a...

Really getting tired of all the fighter purchase initiatives that are sure to be rejected. We have 200+ well-maintained 4th generation fighters. That is more than almost anyone. The Ozgur modernization program is in progress and will update almost all of the fleet to Viper level by 2030. That...

When you are funding a project like this, you don't generally put aside money like in a savings pot. You pay for or finance them as they arise and most of the heavy expenditures for Kaan were for infrastructure and they are mostly done already. Also, inflation might be painful for ordinary...

Escalating with the US would hurt rather than help here. The aim should be to destroy the logistic, military, and economic viability of CENTCOM's PKK project, which doesn't seem to be well-supported within the US by any other faction. The hope is they force Centcom to cut losses and end their...

Anyone with a racial hatred against Turks tends to have other severe moral failings, too. I am sure his replacement will not be very friendly either but Menendez was particularly rabid. Good riddance. For the purposes of this thread, I think Ozgur and Kaan are still the way to go but occasional...

Any news on whether the range of Atmaca increased with KTJ3200? I remember reading that it would run for longer than TR40.