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Sabra Mk I was a proposed Israeli mod program, never ordered by Israel or Turkey. Sabra Mk II is M60T.

We have our own Korean DNA L55 but hit a brick wall on L44, such a Turkish problem to have tbh.

AFAIK Turkey license built the IMI L44 gun in Turkey, but this was a fixed contract for the Sabra program, not for us to do as we wish in the future.

And judging by this night's ruckus, looks like Alpha came out on top on the tests. But the claim that a contract was signed can't be true. It will be very public, it's the first AFV program in years.

Assad and his government still breathing is a crime against humanity but here we are.

Too early to say anything, as testing phase for tracked vehicles haven't even started yet per what's been reported for the last 2 weeks.

I don't remember that quote, by FNSS said during their recent talk with Defence Turk that Alpha was part of the testing phase for YNHZA program from beginning to the end. I think we can say that FNSS bid is not Pars III or IV but Alpha. Beginning from 5:00

"The procurement process for wheeled vehicles in the YNHZA(New Generation Light Armored Vehicle) Project will begin in the short term. The results of the competition for wheeled vehicles have been announced. Next up is the competition for tracked vehicles. The initial demands of the TAF for...

Cobra I still alive and kicking. Wonder if they are refurbished from army stocks. Sarp RCWS and jammers are a nice addition. @Afif

Eh, all blockages we got from the congress in the last 5 years have always been bipartizan. If there is political will, they can do it. Our job is to remove that political will, so diplomacy.

That crate only holds 100 or so ammo, so less than 0.5 seconds of engagement time for a Vulcan. And when you add a bigger ammo box and the place to hold that box, it's now a 2.5 ton system. There's a reason why C-RAM is on a flatbed trailer with a huge ammo drum under the gun.

Nope. At any point they can still make a new law with 2/3 majority blocking the sale, well after first few aircraft are even delivered to Turkey. If US gov and parties want to exert pressure, say against a Syria operation, they still can. To clarify though, they can always do this. Doesn't mean...

Exactly. It's a "senin duanla doğmadım ki senin bedduanla öleyim" type of thing. We never asked for Iraqi permission to operate in N Iraq. Our partner there is KRG, not Iraqi government. They can protest all they want, everyone knows what's going on. This won't effect our operations directly...

To my knowledge, we never agreed with Iraq to deploy Turkish soldiers to Iraq, but with KRG. Did Iraq ever gave its permission?

Per the recent 75 million contract, a single Coyote 2C C-UAS missile comes up at 125.000$. This will sell like crazy. A smaller vehicle borne system like M-LIDS here could actually be a great addition to our smaller bases all around Syria, cheaper too. We could do it on a Vuran.

Mission never ends.

We will keep hearing this word until we are sick of it, and I'm here for it. I think so as well. Minor issue though, we don't have the engines to build it and maybe to even develop it, hence the backburner.

Finally :love:

Oruçreis underway.

Absolutely. And number of bases where such a complete solution would be deployed is less than 10 as far as i know. Which is again, at least 200 million dollars. I don't hate it, just that it wouldn't be as prolific as Pantsir is for Russia, for example.