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Also one has to wonder Indian strikes this evening was about stopping the retaliation or trying to incur as much as damage as possible before it starts. Should be interesting.

Retired army generals are idiots everywhere, hardly a topic for this thread. Let's not derail the thread please.

That still is from an Israeli strike against a Syrian Pantsir from 2019 or 20. Armenia didn't operate Pantsir.

Doubt that, and still, political cost for that will still be very low. Turkish support for Pakistan endured 70 years and like 10 different governments, it won't go anywhere in the future. And Indian Turkish relations will stay minimal for years to come. So no political cost.

Information warfare, drawing lines on the sand of us vs. enemy, noone likes Erdoğan, political cost of vilifying Turkey for an Indian is zero, compared to China, etc etc.

Is this the first major Russian purchase since 2017? Bad call.

I don't think this was ever disputed. If it was, it was a mistake by that person. It's an air force supplied and trained by US for decades and have a clear enemy to train against for the last 60 years. Add very competent aircraft like JF-17, which is a tailor built cheaper F-16 for Pakistan and...

@Nilgiri I do want to learn your thinking on this. Indian rhetoric originally was "we only struck terrorist targets and not military ones and ask Pakistanis to not retaliate." That seems to have gone out of window after the apparent Pakistani air response to missile dumpers and aircraft loss and...

A lesson is in order on what "flag flying in the wind direction" means. Just trying to employ some common sense. If everyone did that, we'd be golden. Can't have nice shit though. Similar populations, they had to give a response soon. If Pakistanis don't retaliate, they'll bury the losses...

Remains to be seen.

We are not "trying" to put TS1400 into production. If anything, production and testing schedule is going pretty nicely.

No. Evidence is in this very forum. Stuff we are actively talking about are not old crashes, they are all new.

There's nothing to suggest which aircraft or weapon was used to down any aircraft. It may well be a Mirage 5 with a Matra, we just don't know. Proof is lying peppered across Indian land. No, it isn't. It doesn't see anything. I saw a guy arguing with Grok last week on twitter whether the...

Per Osint reviews, launcher found on the ground is not used by 2Ks but Rafales. Is it possible that India modernized their 2Ks to use these launchers, sure. bUt then there's the presumed engine section.

With the earlier MICA launcher from Bathinda and now this, it does look like a Rafale went down. Looks a lot like the nozzles without the housing.

This is the droptank we saw photos of. Interestingly, droptanks usually don't crumble like this when they hit ground and keep their shape more or less. Interesting.

I'm not sure if we were supposed to see that, especially the seeker head. Nice 280km range missile.

That part of the deal is a bit vague. Agusta/Leonardo didn't offer A129 to anyone after Turkey.