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They're both solid players that would do well in most teams in Europe. Demiral is very underrated. Both produced in TR.

For such a huge footballing nation. We historically produced very little top class players in Turkiye Arda Guler, Zeki Celik, Merih Demiral, just three I can think of thats decent and can do well in European top teams. i like Yunus Akgun, Baris Yilmaz, but no one can tell me they're top-tier at...

I want nothing to do with BRICs. If I had to choose between BRICs and EU. the chose is obvious. And I cannot be the only one feeling that way. And being in EU has nothing to do with Islam. France and Germany just don't want another big nation inside taking their limelight. Best choice is...

Do you think there're actually GCs out there that think the French are actually there to protect them from Turks? I am thinking even they must know they're being used like a tampon.

What's even the point of "South Cyprus" right now?

America. Our allies.

Truth is we haven't really improved much from the 90s to now. I mean fear wise to others. I'd say we're same . Just alright enough to keep others from harming us. Just not enough to fully remove the threats. Thats how I see it anyways. But, are we not alright for a nation our size ? I mean, can...

depends. I think we do punch well for our size and economy. We're independent enough to do a lot of things, but if you mean enough to remove US from MENA and takeover from them? Of course not. It's still kind of their backyard with the help of Israel and other Muslim nations. US is not going to...

Think about the idea that Israel can defeat Turkiye. Curious what Turks here thought. I don't care. You kept changing subject when the thread was about Iran war, not Palestine for few pages.

What do you think?

Even those that dislike Erdogan will vote for him because CHP have an amazing talent in angering even the antiAKP crowd. You guys need to blame yourselves a little.

Translation: Help more against Iran, or you will be abandoned in Iraq. This is looking good for Turkiye.

So no one knows, except MIT, CIA and MOSSAD ? You're telling me Iraqi don't know whats going on in their own soil for goodness sake??

Macron and France are too scared to even help USA against Iran, yet here you are trying to act like they pose any threat to Turkiye. Please don't make me laugh. The only conflict with France I see is in Africa and even that I am not too sure about. France and Europe as a whole is over. I see...

That statement by Macron was for the Iranaian drones hit in South Cyprus. So please try add some context. I agree with making sure we have an edge in the Med and making sure we are ready for any scenario but you're portraying France as some enemy to TR is dishonest . We're discussing about Med...

We're discussing a war scenario in the Med Sea with France... I can be that guarantor this isn't happening. Now you can sleep better at night. France is an enemy, and nations in MENA region supporting terrorists in our lands are brothers? Explain that logic to me.

There're a lot of "NVIDIA Killer" and these companies always in Europe and west, for once I'd like some from Turkiye is what I meant really.a lot of these startups that get hyped up always from west. anyways hope I made my point clear. even when we know its unlikely, guess the little hope is a...

Pretty much all nations except Saudis, UAE, Israel and I guess France? Just don't see the point in doing any strategic JV with nations that see us as rivals. Heck, would they(Saudis) even be interested thats another questions. But, Spain, Italy, Turkiye Med team sounds nice though.

France is never fighting us in the Med. Not sure why you mentioned them.

Being self-sufficient is good, but we also must strive to be the best, even if it sounds unrealistic that must be the goal. And NVIDIA is a good benchmark for that. Obviously no-one is truly competing with them for a awhile before people have a cry. Although i'd rather do a JV with Spain or...