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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    There's a debate about the mete-han radar. Is it smaller Cenk-500 or is it Cenk-350N? Enlighten Me. Because the debate are between sesepuh
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    but not a 100% turkify. ofc its a challenge for the turks to turkify this.
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    well, kinda old. but still younger than cakra class. and its big and long tho
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    s seems all branch using this new camo, eh?
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    good question for NH90. is it too expensive to maintain or we can deal with the maintenance? looks the users always having a problem with this. but the italian and french is seems no problem with that
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    i'm also wanna type something sharp. but... lmao hahaha just use a word that everyone in twitter says it.
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    because the budget name at the bluebook is named "Kapal Frigate Sejenis FREMM" even it was PPA.
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    everything backs to decision maker. the shipbuilder are just happy if they get order or not happy if not having an order. just like me selling clothes for life.
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    they even planned to having a bigger flat-deck bigger than an LHD
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    there is no need for getting US Fighter jet. because they redirected it by buying some of boeing commercial jets. and i think thats enough to balancing trade surplus to U.S. time to add more Rafale (ofc, because its to balance the J-10/Su-35 Procurement) and find new Gen 5 Plane. can be KF-21...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    and the british, is showing AH140 design with 2x76mm, a SMART-L, and idk about VLS. it looks like Seawolf or CAMM in Mushroom-Like VLS
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    about this, the FMP would use VL Atmaca, right?
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    [lil bit OOT] lmao, thats me looking at Anadolu
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    i think, there is possibility if we can put ESSM on this ship. just a possibility. not a plan hahaha
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    bos, kalau promosi jualan (lagi) di bolehkan?
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    its strange, but someone needs it for quick win.
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    a former navy guys, once said: where is the Sovraponte in the back? why buying ships, that having no gun like its default (that having sovraponte) now, where is he? lmao
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    well, i'm kinda knowing almost everything. but kenyot post something, then i'm selling a printed tshirt related to the post. lmao the indonesian, is easy to get crot. and easy to hit hard. hahaha @Lordimperator says, it was riding the wave, eh
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    thats their dream. just like Air Force with F-15
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    for more specific, i'm even dont get an answer for that. i'm asking many sesepuh, just says "logically, its easy to downgrade main 039A equipment"

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