TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

Ryder

Experienced member
Messages
10,857
Reactions
6 18,707
Nation of residence
Australia
Nation of origin
Turkey

Mis_TR_Like

Contributor
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
1,405
Reactions
26 5,456
Nation of residence
Australia
Nation of origin
Northern Cyprus
The reason why lbgt is getting supported because of plans to depopulate the world and support a weak society.

Weak society cant fight back.

Eh, I don't buy it. It's a mix of several things.

Firstly, LGBT ideology mainly originates from the USA... It's a result of the liberal goal of rights for all. Really all for gaining voters.

First it started with feminism. Then came black rights. After that came gays and everything else. Truth be told, the large black population was a huge catalyst for this.

But the thing is it never stops. They will always find a new thing to add to it. When gay marriage got legalized, it opened up a can of worms. All of a sudden, the next big thing for them was the trans movement, then the 1000 sexualities, etc. And now we got their catch all ideology. Have you seen their most recent flags? Looks ridiculous.

Feminism is responsible for this.. Gender ideology in particular is mainly fueled by feminist ideals of breaking free from the male-female binary.

As for depopulation, I don't believe this has much to do with it. People have less children in developed countries. There isn't that urgent need to pump out 10 kids to maximize your chances of continuing your bloodline. People are living comfortably enjoying their lives in western countries...

The biggest impact of LGBT is that it undermines secularism countries like Türkiye because it's the perfect boogeyman for Islamists. Have no doubt that western intelligence uses it for this purpose.


The biggest thing that causes weakness in society is mass immigration. Once your demographics are f*cked, everything is f*cked. It becomes every man for himself.
 
Last edited:

Ryder

Experienced member
Messages
10,857
Reactions
6 18,707
Nation of residence
Australia
Nation of origin
Turkey
Eh, I don't buy it. It's a mix of several things.

Firstly, LGBT ideology mainly originates from the USA... It's a result of the liberal goal of rights for all. Really all for gaining voters.

First it started with feminism. Then came black rights. After that came gays and everything else. Truth be told, the large black population was a huge catalyst for this.

But the thing is it never stops. They will always find a new thing to add to it. When gay marriage got legalized, it opened up a can of worms. All of a sudden, the next big thing for them was the trans movement, then the 1000 sexualities, etc. And now we got their catch all ideology. Have you seen their most recent flags? Looks ridiculous.

Feminism is responsible for this.. Gender ideology in particular is mainly fueled by feminist ideals of breaking free from the male-female binary.

As for depopulation, I don't believe this has much to do with it. People have less children in developed countries. There isn't that urgent need to pump out 10 kids to maximize your chances of continuing your bloodline. People are living comfortably enjoying their lives in western countries...

The biggest impact of LGBT is that it undermines secularism countries like Türkiye because it's the perfect boogeyman for Islamists. Have no doubt that western intelligence uses it for this purpose.


The biggest thing that causes weakness in society is mass immigration. Once your demographics are f*cked, everything is f*cked. It becomes every man for himself.

Thats true about demographics to be honest.

Native peoples used to be easily kicked out with war or colonialism.

Now it can be done with mass immigration. Basically you dont have to fire a shot
 

Iskander

Contributor
Think Tank Analyst
Messages
476
Reactions
9 1,315
Nation of residence
Azerbaijan
Nation of origin
Azerbaijan
Aliyev persecutes competent opposition
And His Majesty's Government, Great Britain, proud of its democracy, became the first European country to congratulate him.
What is the problem?
Moreover, in Turkic language


@FergusAuldFCDO
·
Prezident Əliyevi seçkilərdə qalib olması münasibətilə təbrik edirəm. Böyük Britaniya yaxın tərəfdaş kimi, Azərbaycanı...
 

Tornadoss

Contributor
Messages
1,376
Reactions
4 2,624
Nation of residence
Czechia
Nation of origin
Turkey
The reason why lbgt is getting supported because of plans to depopulate the world and support a weak society.

Weak society cant fight back.
Who is all behind this? The 5 family ruling the world? That's just a conspiracy theory, lgbt is supported most in the west. Why would they do that?
 

Asena_great

Contributor
Messages
878
Reactions
20 1,799
Who is all behind this? The 5 family ruling the world? That's just a conspiracy theory, lgbt is supported most in the west. Why would they do that?
islamist and their addiction to conspiracy theories usually harmless unless organized for political purpose like ergenekon balyoz trails or the opening of kozmik oda
 

Bozan

Experienced member
Messages
1,518
Reactions
5 1,844
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
Nation of origin
Turkey
And His Majesty's Government, Great Britain, proud of its democracy, became the first European country to congratulate him.
What is the problem?
Moreover, in Turkic language


@FergusAuldFCDO
·
Prezident Əliyevi seçkilərdə qalib olması münasibətilə təbrik edirəm. Böyük Britaniya yaxın tərəfdaş kimi, Azərbaycanı...

They get great benefits from him economically, the UK is the largest share of foreign direct investment into Azerbaijan, the war was a bonus for the UK


The next president is currently on tour
 

Ryder

Experienced member
Messages
10,857
Reactions
6 18,707
Nation of residence
Australia
Nation of origin
Turkey

Fun fact the Ottoman Gazi warriors actually did not want to fight against other Muslim states especially in Anatolia. As they saw it pointless.

Gazi meant warriors of the faith which meant nothing if they faced other Muslims especially Muslim Turks in Anatolia hence the push into the Balkans.

But as usual the Ottomans had to push more into the East due to threats from the Mamluks, Safavids and various Anatolian Atabegs.

Instead the Ottomans took the caliphate mantle and conquered chunks of the Middle East. Ottomans even thought about pushing more into Iran and Central Asia.
 

Anastasius

Contributor
Moderator
Azerbaijan Moderator
Messages
1,414
Reactions
5 3,136
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
Azerbaijan
They get great benefits from him economically, the UK is the largest share of foreign direct investment into Azerbaijan, the war was a bonus for the UK


The next president is currently on tour
Well that's interesting, I kept hearing rumors about how Ilham's son is apparently heavily autistic and not very sharp but I guess those might be false if Ilham is buttering him up to be next in line.

Mind you, I hope he never comes to power and we get an actually democratically elected president but you know...
 

Iskander

Contributor
Think Tank Analyst
Messages
476
Reactions
9 1,315
Nation of residence
Azerbaijan
Nation of origin
Azerbaijan
Fun fact the Ottoman Gazi warriors actually did not want to fight against other Muslim states especially in Anatolia. As they saw it pointless.

Gazi meant warriors of the faith which meant nothing if they faced other Muslims especially Muslim Turks in Anatolia hence the push into the Balkans.

But as usual the Ottomans had to push more into the East due to threats from the Mamluks, Safavids and various Anatolian Atabegs.

Instead the Ottomans took the caliphate mantle and conquered chunks of the Middle East. Ottomans even thought about pushing more into Iran and Central Asia.
Today, from the heights of the 21st century, it is easy to see the strategic mistakes of the Ottomans. In my opinion, the Safavid War was the largest of them. The Ottomans occupied the Levant and cut off Iran's communications through the Mediterranean with Europe (Venice, etc.). But there was no need to occupy Tabriz, the capital of the Safavids. The Ottomans spent a lot of energy on the war with Iran, and at this time in the north the Russians destroyed the Astrakhan and Kazan khanates in just 5 years.
Some historians are inclined to think that the purpose of Osman’s campaign against Astrakhan in 1569 was not the liberation of Turkic lands from the Russians, but to counteract Iran in Central Asia (Khiva, Bukhara).
But, alas, too much effort was spent on Iran, and this campaign completely failed. It was then that the tragedy of the Turkic world began.
After 150 years, the Russians took full control of the Caspian Sea, and as a prize, all of Siberia, and then Central Asia, and a century later, they defeated the Turkic and Iranian armies in turn with impunity.
Even the occupation of Moscow by Napoleon did not stop them.
Sad story.
 
Last edited:

Ryder

Experienced member
Messages
10,857
Reactions
6 18,707
Nation of residence
Australia
Nation of origin
Turkey
Today, from the heights of the 21st century, it is easy to see the strategic mistakes of the Ottomans. In my opinion, the Safavid War was the largest of them. The Ottomans occupied the Levant and cut off Iran's communications through the Mediterranean with Europe (Venice, etc.). But there was no need to occupy Tabriz, the capital of the Safavids. The Ottomans spent a lot of energy on the war with Iran, and at this time in the north the Russians destroyed the Astrakhan and Kazan khanates in just 5 years.
Some historians are inclined to think that the purpose of Osman’s campaign against Astrakhan in 1569 was not the liberation of Turkic lands from the Russians, but to counteract Iran in Central Asia (Khiva, Bukhara).
But, alas, too much effort was spent on Iran, and this campaign completely failed. It was then that the Catastrophe of the Turkic world began.
After 150 years, the Russians took full control of the Caspian Sea, and as a prize, all of Siberia, and then Central Asia, and a century later, they defeated the Turkic and Iranian armies in turn with impunity.
Even the occupation of Moscow by Napoleon did not stop them.
Sad story.

You gotta remember that Turkic rule in Russia.

Largely came to an end thanks to the Mongols which destroyed the Cumans and Volga Bulgaria.

Golden Horde ruled a large part of Russia as it weakened overtime this allowed Russia to claim its independance.

I do believe advent of Gunpowder began to change warfare. Mass production of guns began to tilt against armies based on Horse archers. Peasants overtime now allowed to arm themselves with a musket even if its shit. Use of fortifications also stiffled movement of nomadic armies.

Russia one by one colonised all the way to Siberia. They did even have to use their army as they used the Cossacks armed with guns.

Crimean Khanate in the past used to constantly raid Russian lands even take Moscow. But overtime the effectiveness of their armies began to wane due to gunpowder and the use of cheap infantry.

Horse archery was an art and it took years to master.

Russia did not become a threat to the Ottomans until the 1700s set in. Ottomans main enemies were the Italian states like Venice, Habsburgs which ran both Austria and Spain and the Safavid Empire. They also squabbled against Portugal in the Indian Ocean.
 

Kartal1

Experienced member
Lead Moderator
Messages
5,220
Reactions
106 19,414
Nation of residence
Bulgaria
Nation of origin
Turkey
20240210_132002.jpg
20240210_132006.jpg
 

Deliorman

Contributor
Messages
977
Reactions
9 3,955
Nation of residence
Bulgaria
Nation of origin
Bulgaria
TBH if you can make it work and the machine is reliable... why not to upgrade it and use it. In warfare not everything is about new and shiny toys.
 

uçuyorum

Contributor
Messages
935
Reactions
13 1,533
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
TBH if you can make it work and the machine is reliable... why not to upgrade it and use it. In warfare not everything is about new and shiny toys.
It's simply not survivable as newer designs which is what upsets our soldiers that do the actual fighting, it shouldn't be so difficult to get proper new ones
 

CAN_TR

Contributor
Messages
1,474
Reactions
17 5,211
Nation of residence
Austria
Nation of origin
Turkey
To be honest i actually very like the M60 modernization, even when they will be replaced by ALTAY MBT (someday) it's good to have them in storage. After the upgrade they are better than anything 6/7 of our neighbours (AZ not counted) can offer.

However what i really hate with every cell in my body is the ZMA-15 upgrade for ACV-15.
 
Top Bottom