TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

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Yeah sure let's build a several hundred million $ factory on a piece of land without doing some surveys and geophysical studies. Who the hell believes this kind of bullshit?
 

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Yeah sure let's build a several hundred million $ factory on a piece of land without doing some surveys and geophysical studies. Who the hell believes this kind of bullshit?
It is BMC's risk, as any company can take risks proportionate with the size of their investment plan.
 
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BRINGING ADDITIONAL SKILLS TO TANKS-LEOPARD 2A4 (TİYK-LEO 2A4) PROJECT


Improvements are made in the survivability, fire control and mobility capabilities of our tanks in the inventory of the Land Forces Command, taking into account the changing threats, field of duty, and activity expectation to meet today's needs. Our tanks, which were previously modernized using foreign products, are equipped with completely domestic products, including their most critical systems.

In this framework, it is planned to modernize 81 Leopard 2A4 tanks to meet the needs of the modern battlefield.

In addition, by using the systems used in ALTAY and M60TM tanks in Leopard 2A4 tanks; It is aimed to provide logistical unity in operation, maintenance and maintenance issues.
 

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Yeah sure let's build a several hundred million $ factory on a piece of land without doing some surveys and geophysical studies. Who the hell believes this kind of bullshit?
Agreed tbh
I was surprised to actually see most of the members in this forum actually believe the bullshit statements from the current BMC leaders. I mean..... come on..... Turkey is producing ships, submarines, drones, flying aircrafts, and is one of the best constructors world wide and yet afetr they nearly complete the installation of some of the steel works in the factory, they suddenly realised that it is engulfed in water? Truly bullshit claims

The true reason, which we deep inside all know, is that the previous Arab fool gave Erdo grandoise promises and how he will make the Altay, not only a great military vehicle but also an economic boon by building a new factory with thousands of workers...... Sadly Erdo took the bait and this is where we are rn

I just hope Tosyali actually build the tank. I dont care if he did it in a factory, under some1's house, or even in a bloody swamp...... Just pls build the tank

Altay is becoming more and more like the Arjun tank and the K2 tank in its early days
I just hope the AKP and Tosyali one way or another just build the tank by this point

Btw any news on the supply of Korean engines?
 

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BRINGING ADDITIONAL SKILLS TO TANKS-LEOPARD 2A4 (TİYK-LEO 2A4) PROJECT


Improvements are made in the survivability, fire control and mobility capabilities of our tanks in the inventory of the Land Forces Command, taking into account the changing threats, field of duty, and activity expectation to meet today's needs. Our tanks, which were previously modernized using foreign products, are equipped with completely domestic products, including their most critical systems.

In this framework, it is planned to modernize 81 Leopard 2A4 tanks to meet the needs of the modern battlefield.

In addition, by using the systems used in ALTAY and M60TM tanks in Leopard 2A4 tanks; It is aimed to provide logistical unity in operation, maintenance and maintenance issues.
Lol seems like after 5 years BMC is ready to come up with something. We will see.
 

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- 81+250 Leopard 2A4 will be modernized similar to 'Leopard 2A4 NG'
This is good news! At least we will have 500 modern tanks that will be able to withstand some of today’s threats in battlefields. (169 M60TM + 331 modernised 2A4s)
if by 2027to 2028 we can have 250 Altay tanks as well, in view of where tanks are today, it could be enough for us. (Provided as promised, they start delivering first tanks next year this time, they need to up the production rate by a significant number - around 4-6 per month to make up for some of the lost time!)
Most important point is the presence of Akkor for these and future tanks, as well as many AFVs. It is not wise to send crews in unprotected armoured vehicles, to the battlefield.
 

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This is good news! At least we will have 500 modern tanks that will be able to withstand some of today’s threats in battlefields. (169 M60TM + 331 modernised 2A4s)
if by 2027to 2028 we can have 250 Altay tanks as well, in view of where tanks are today, it could be enough for us. (Provided as promised, they start delivering first tanks next year this time, they need to up the production rate by a significant number - around 4-6 per month to make up for some of the lost time!)
Most important point is the presence of Akkor for these and future tanks, as well as many AFVs. It is not wise to send crews in unprotected armoured vehicles, to the battlefield.
Good news?? Any chance that there will be. A good news when there is BMC in a deal as a prime contractor??
Messing up Altay project is not.enough, now they will mess up our only modern tanks!!
Why BMC get this deal, instead of Aselsan as prime contractor?? What will BMC bring to this deal?? Will it create a perfect solution like crappy leotay ??
 
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So BMC is going to do the Aselsan Leopard 2A4 NG upgrade from 2011

And no one is questioning why the Aselsan upgrade has been ignored for 11 years, no one questioning to what happened to the BMC upgrade contract that BMC got in 2020?

What a country, nobody is responsible of anything. SSB is fastly losing her credibility
 

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No BMC, no Leotay. Roketsan and Aselsan will make the development.

"TİYK-LEO 2A4 Projesi kapsamında BMC, 81+250 adet Leopard 2A4 Tankı’nı kapsamlı modernizasyona tabi tutacak. Alt yükleniciler ise Roketsan ile ASELSAN."

BMC is the main contractor, Roketsan and Aselsan are subcontractors.
 

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Good news?? Any chance that there will be. A good news when there is BMC in a deal as a prime contractor??
Messing up Altay project is not.enough, now they will mess up our only modern tanks!!
Why BMC get this deal, instead of Aselsan as prime contractor?? What will BMC bring to this deal?? Will it create a perfect solution like crappy leotay ??
1. if it is BMC that is going to do the modernisation, then it is under new ownership. Give them a chance to correct all the wrongs made in the past.
2. Somebody has to start this modernisation. My understanding is Aselsan and Roketsan are in charge of this modernisation.
3. Current administration may be trying to clean BMC’s badly tarnished name by giving the actual work to Aselsan and Roketsan. (Good try!!)
4. There is nothing to mess up! These tanks are like metal coffins as they are. We saw how many of them were knocked out in quick succession in Al Bab Syria. They should not be in front line as they are.
5. As long as it is Aselsan and Roketsan doing this modernisation we should have full confidence in their work.
 

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