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If Armenia is unwilling to make peace and continue their expansionist ideas, the goal for Azerbaijan must be to end their statehood.
Yes, Armenians have a chance... to lose their statehood. It's their own fault. Now they must fulfill our conditions - change the State Emblem, anthem, history books and the Constitution, in which our lands are designated as Armenian, and they must also provide us with a corridor to Nakhchivan and renounce the claim to our lands. These are our basic conditions. It is unlikely that they will be able to maintain full state sovereignty. But nothing will happen to them; they lived in the Ottoman Empire for 600 years without Armenian statehoot.
True, later, when the opportunity arises, they will dig up their battle ax again
 
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Yes, Armenians have a chance... to lose their statehood. It's their own fault. Now they must fulfill our conditions - change the State Emblem, anthem, history books and the Constitution, in which our lands are designated as Armenian, and they must also provide us with a corridor to Nakhchivan and renounce the claim to our lands. These are our basic conditions. It is unlikely that they will be able to maintain full state sovereignty. But nothing will happen to them; they lived in the Ottoman Empire for 600 years without Armenian statehoot.
True, later, when the opportunity arises, they will dig up their battle ax again :LOL:
Ideal solution would be end of statehood and the relocation of 2 million Armenians to France.
 

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Ideal solution would be end of statehood and the relocation of 2 million Armenians to France.

i speculated that potentially the armenians would eventually over extend and while being crushed by Azerbaijan the Russians will annex the rest via the back door. This is the same game they played on them during the dying days of the Ottomans. Promise them statehood, train them, equip and send to kill Muslims in Turkey. When in the end it totally failed and the armenian sepratists were crushed the Russians walked in from the back and annexed the armenians.

But rationally this scenario should be prepared for by Turkey/Azerbaijan. Because what they cannot allow to happen is Russia annexing it. If its going to be annexed it has to be annexed by Turkey/Azerbaijan, because then at least peace will prevail. But if the Russians annex it again they will set the Armenians up to be constantly be at war with us.
 

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i speculated that potentially the armenians would eventually over extend and while being crushed by Azerbaijan the Russians will annex the rest via the back door. This is the same game they played on them during the dying days of the Ottomans. Promise them statehood, train them, equip and send to kill Muslims in Turkey. When in the end it totally failed and the armenian sepratists were crushed the Russians walked in from the back and annexed the armenians.

But rationally this scenario should be prepared for by Turkey/Azerbaijan. Because what they cannot allow to happen is Russia annexing it. If its going to be annexed it has to be annexed by Turkey/Azerbaijan, because then at least peace will prevail. But if the Russians annex it again they will set the Armenians up to be constantly be at war with us.
If there is no other way than annexing I would say annex Zangezur and leave the other. Nothing good will come from Armenian land or nationalist Armenians, but only problems. I remember Simonyan from RT was once talking about a Russian annexation of Armenia. She as Armenian was good with the scenario and I am sure many more Armenians will be happy with it too. I think this is the last chance of Armenia to chose prosperity and independence. If they don't burry the hatchets, if they don't work actively over their integration in Caucasus as a peaceful country and don't embrace the western values their fate is Russian annexation and I doubt that someone will do the same for Armenia as the support Ukraine receives for example.
 

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4 Armenian soldiers killed in Azerbaijani retaliation after a soldier from Azerbaijan was injured due to small arms fire from Armenia.


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Yesterday, on the conditional border of Azerbaijan and Armenia, an Azerbaijani border guard was wounded by a sniper shot from the Armenian side. Let us remind you once again: both the shot and the way the sniper, having done his “work”, leaves the position, were recorded by video surveillance cameras.


Here they are, European observers on the border. And there is no reaction to the shelling of our border guards.

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During the “Retaliation Operation” carried out by units of the State Border Service of Azerbaijan on February 13 in response to the provocation of the Armenian Armed Forces, four Armenian servicemen were killed.
 
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oh look an Armenian rewriting history to make himself the victim, who would have thought it?

Hope they speedrun the end of their state so the region can see peace for once.
 

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They sure are trying to get EU, China, USA, Iran and India onto their side to start a war.

Always hiding behind somebodies back.

They always did this in history. With the Romans, Persians, Arabs, Turks, Crusaders and the Russians. Always hide behind the backs of every superpower in the region when they weaken they go onto the next strong state.

Always picking on fights then getting curb stomped all for a useless dream of a Greater Armenia.
 

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Erdogan, in his address to the people, spoke about the peace process between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

“Some Western circles are trying to establish new rules of the game in the South Caucasus. They still cannot understand that with the end of the Karabakh war, a completely new stage began in the region.”
“They exploited the Armenians, creating dreams that could not be realized, taking advantage of them, putting them in danger. Armenia must see and accept this reality.

The Armenian people and their leadership should seek security not thousands of kilometers away, but in peace and cooperation with their neighbors.
Our greatest wish is that the Armenians do not miss the opportunity for peace, which appeared after 30 years, because of some dreams. From here, I once again urge Armenia to accept the hand of reconciliation extended by Azerbaijan,” Erdogan said.
 

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If armenia tries to remove the Russian presence from armenia, the russians will install a coup and takeover. He's a fool and unfortunately Armenians seem to always make terrible statesman. He makes the mistake in thinking he can get rid of the Russians, Armenia is done. Only way he can get rid of the Russians in the long term is to make complete peace with Turkey and Azerbaijan and then to build security ties with both nations, then he can get rid of the Russians. But without doing that the westerners are fooling him, he tries to invite their soldiers in or get rid of Russian bases the Rusisans will takeover completely.
 

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looking at it, i get the feeling the europeans may be setting the armenians up with false promises in order that it provokes Russia to invade the country. Better that, then peace with Turkey. Just like when the americans held manbitch and when the Turks were going to move in they handed it over to russia instead.
 

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