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China to allow Turkish delegation to come to Xinjiang 2 months after UN human rights chief's visit​


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Mevlut Cavusoglu and Wang Yi on the sidelines of meetings of foreign ministers on East Asia cooperation in Cambodia. Photo: Xinhua alt=Mevlut Cavusoglu and Wang Yi on the sidelines of meetings of foreign ministers on East Asia cooperation in Cambodia. Photo: Xinhua>

China has said it will welcome a Turkish delegation to Xinjiang, two months after the United Nations human rights chief visited the region to investigate allegations of widespread abuses.

On the sidelines of a meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in Cambodia, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu on Wednesday that "China has always taken an attitude of being open and transparent on issues related to Xinjiang".

Wang pledged to communicate closely over the issue and added that, as emerging economies, the two countries had closely intertwined interests and similar positions, and should promote cooperation, according to a Chinese foreign ministry statement.

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Cavusoglu said Ankara firmly adhered to the one-China policy not only on the Taiwan question but also on issues concerning Xinjiang, according to the Chinese statement.

He added that the Turkish side was glad UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet had visited Xinjiang and hoped to stay in contact with Beijing over the planned tour.

The two sides did not provide further details of the visit.

Bachelet's trip was the first to China by a UN human rights high commissioner since 2005. Beijing said it "achieved positive and practical results", but the United States voiced "deep concern" over China's alleged "efforts to restrict and manipulate" the visit.

The Chinese government has been accused of forced sterilisation and mass internment of members of the Uygur ethnic group and other Muslim minorities in the far-western region - an allegation it has repeatedly denied, insisting the internment camps are vocational training centres for deradicalisation and to tackle terrorism.

After the visit, Bachelet said that while she could not assess the full scale of the "vocational education and training centres", she was concerned about the lack of independent judicial oversight of the facilities, allegations of the use of force and "unduly severe restriction on legitimate religious practices" inside the centres.

She also called on Beijing to review all its counterterrorism and anti-radicalisation policies to make sure they complied with international human rights standards.

The issue of Xinjiang has also been among the most sensitive issues in Chinese-Turkish relations and Ankara's support could be potentially important to China as it plays host to an estimated 50,000 Uygurs, the largest diaspora outside Central Asia.

Beijing has said the two countries should respect each other's sovereignty and is worried that an initiative from Ankara to strengthen the political role of the Organisation of Turkic States - a name adopted last November - will increase its influence among Turkic-speaking groups, including the Uygurs.

The group, which was first established in 2009 as the Cooperation Council of Turkic-speaking States, has its headquarters in Istanbul.

Its other members are Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, with Turkmenistan and Hungary as observer states.

On Wednesday, the two sides also talked about food security challenges caused by the war in Ukraine. The Turkish side also called for a more balanced economic and trade relationship and more frequent direct flights between the two countries.

 

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Scripted visit where anyone's from the Uyghurs are handpicked to deliver positive messages.
 

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the entire Chinese system is basically hell on earth. absolute nightmare, big state, everything is controlled, social credit scores etc. I suspect you guys defending it are on the payroll or you fear that if you don't simp for the chinese communist government, it may negatively effect your scores.

To make matters worse you are engaging in a disgusting vicious genocide and you lie non stop about it.
 

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What China is doing in Xinjian to the Turkic Uighur minority is abhorable. Xinjian is an autonomous region of China. Yet the Uyghurs do not enjoy any rights of an autonomous region under the heavy handed Chinese oppression.
No matter how much our pro-Chinese members will defend China and reject any wrongdoing on the Chinese part, the truth speaks for itself.
However US is not helping the situation either. They are promoting Islamic extremism in the region to destabilise the Uighur position. Taiwan, Hong Kong, Xinjian; these are all potential problem spots to keep China busy as far as US is concerned. So they will promote by any means anti Chinese sentiment in all these areas.
And because the Chinese at the same time, are working towards changing the demographic structure of the region by supporting high number of Han Chinese emigration in to the area and suppressing Uighur culture, it is also playing in to the US hands. Unless a more balanced educational solution is found, this problem will exist for a long time.
 
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What China is doing in Xinjian to the Turkic Uighur minority is abhorable. Xinjian is an autonomous region of China. Yet the Uyghurs do not enjoy any rights of an autonomous region under the heavy handed Chinese oppression.
No matter how much our pro-Chinese members will defend China and reject any wrongdoing on the Chinese side, the truth speaks for itself.

They know what they are doing, they are shameless and lack even the most basic of morals. Constantly posting pro genocide propaganda against a Turkic people on this forum shows a sick and shameless mentality held by these people.

They are only fooling themselves and its also why the Chinese are destined to have problems with every single one of their neighbours, an incredible level of arrogance built up from a previous era of massive humiliation, where the European came in and took over.

The European did such a number on them that its psychological ramifications are going to last many generations to come.

The intelligent thing would have been to have treated the Uighurs with respect and dignity, that way they could have impressed the entire Turkic world and opened up a great conduit across the entire Central Eurasian region.

As for americans instigating trouble and terrorism, 20 million uigurs poses no danger to 1.2 billion china, only a nation with deep insecurity issues would behave the way they are.

Turkey has experienced thousands of times more terrorism from pkk kurds, do you see the Turks rounding up kurds and putting them in concentration camps? Now if Turkey was 1.2 billion Turks, the terrorism the pkk commits wouldn't even be a blip on the statistics chart.
 

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In almost every country, ethnic minorities may always feel that they are being unfairly treated by the majority, we clearly know that cause as a big minority, overseas Chinese also complain about being ill treated a lot in south east Asian countries.
Hostile entities will always try their utmost effort to exploit to serve their intended purpose.

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Some people are very funny, first they make fake news about Xinjiang, but after China invites them to go to Xinjiang to see the place and the life of the locals for themsevles, they refuse to go and claim the visits will be pointless or only help China. it's hilarious how the west tried to stop UN human rights chief to visit Xinjiang and how they forced her to give up her post after she did.
 

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Some people are very funny, first they make fake news about Xinjiang, but after China invites them to go to Xinjiang to see the place and the life of the locals for themsevles, they refuse to go and claim the visits will be pointless or only help China. it's hilarious how the west tried to stop UN human rights chief to visit Xinjiang and how they forced her to give up her post after she did.
So those invited will have unfettered access to all of Xinjiang?
 

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So those invited will have unfettered access to all of Xinjiang?
I posted some videos of some westerners tours in Xinjiang, it's pretty much like traveling everywhere else in the world, but they were deleted by the Mods of this forum, so I don't know what "unfettered" do you mean.
 

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I mean unrestricted access to go anywhere and not having some military / ccp / Govt guy with the delegation
 

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I mean unrestricted access to go anywhere and not having some military / ccp / Govt guy with the delegation
Where you can go in other countries, you can go in Xinjiang, check the link I provided, many foreigners have vlogs about their road trips in Xinjiang.
 

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They know what they are doing, they are shameless and lack even the most basic of morals. Constantly posting pro genocide propaganda against a Turkic people on this forum shows a sick and shameless mentality held by these people.

They are only fooling themselves and its also why the Chinese are destined to have problems with every single one of their neighbours, an incredible level of arrogance built up from a previous era of massive humiliation, where the European came in and took over.

The European did such a number on them that its psychological ramifications are going to last many generations to come.

The intelligent thing would have been to have treated the Uighurs with respect and dignity, that way they could have impressed the entire Turkic world and opened up a great conduit across the entire Central Eurasian region.

As for americans instigating trouble and terrorism, 20 million uigurs poses no danger to 1.2 billion china, only a nation with deep insecurity issues would behave the way they are.

Turkey has experienced thousands of times more terrorism from pkk kurds, do you see the Turks rounding up kurds and putting them in concentration camps? Now if Turkey was 1.2 billion Turks, the terrorism the pkk commits wouldn't even be a blip on the statistics chart.
i gone to the Chinese version quote called 知乎 and found that Chinese hate Turkiye most, even far far much than japanese or US


Why do you say "Husky in the dog, Turkey in the country"?


Why did Turkey offend the members of the five permanent members all day long and have not been eliminated?


Why do domestic networks like to belittle Turkey so much?


Author: Bill Taiji
Link: https://www.zhihu.com/question/476436002/answer/2033843828
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Turkey is a hidden enemy of China. Although it is not like Australia, Britain, France, Japan and other countries openly clamoring for confrontation with China, it has done nothing less than the above-mentioned countries, or even more. It only bites people. On the surface, Turkey keeps saying that it is friendly with China, but it is just to take advantage of it, and secretly responds to the United States in containing China, but it has not fallen behind at all. Everyone is familiar with the Varyag. It is this Turkey that blocked the Varyag in the Bosphorus Strait for more than a year for safety reasons. It did not count as a deposit of one billion yuan. It also deceived our long-range rocket launcher. Technology, unmanned aerial vehicles and other advanced technologies are exported by their own cottages. The second thing is to buy the Hongqi-9 air defense missile technology. First, they pretended to announce that the Hongqi-9 had won the bid, defrauded us of a lot of technology, and also took the opportunity to force other missiles to lower their prices. For sufficient reasons, the bid was announced to be cancelled. The means are greedy and cunning, and have no faith at all. The third thing is the Turkish government. Some people in the private sector often make nonsense about China's Xinjiang issue, smear and smear the Chinese government's Xinjiang policy, and secretly support Xinjiang separatists. Especially in Syria, it is even more blatant, offering money and weapons, and even openly dispatching the army to support religious extremists such as the Islamic State, which is the boss behind the East Turkistan movement. Turkey's actions have seriously violated our sovereignty and harmed our country's interests. A heavy ticking time bomb was planted on our country's westward road. It is reasonable for the majority of patriotic netizens to be disgusted with him. In addition, he is a young boy with big ambitions, and his ability is matched with his ambition. It makes people feel stupid and disgusting, and it is necessary to degrade him.


you can use google translate to watch that

the Chinese want to kill us all and destroy us every day,we even didnt invade china for 1000years...

i never see any of our people said destroy chinese or kill chinese people,but they are hate us like crazy
 

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i gone to the Chinese version quote called 知乎 and found that Chinese hate Turkiye most, even far far much than japanese or US


Why do you say "Husky in the dog, Turkey in the country"?


Why did Turkey offend the members of the five permanent members all day long and have not been eliminated?


Why do domestic networks like to belittle Turkey so much?


Author: Bill Taiji
Link: https://www.zhihu.com/question/476436002/answer/2033843828
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Copyright belongs to the author. For commercial reprints, please contact the author for authorization, and for non-commercial reprints, please indicate the source.

Turkey is a hidden enemy of China. Although it is not like Australia, Britain, France, Japan and other countries openly clamoring for confrontation with China, it has done nothing less than the above-mentioned countries, or even more. It only bites people. On the surface, Turkey keeps saying that it is friendly with China, but it is just to take advantage of it, and secretly responds to the United States in containing China, but it has not fallen behind at all. Everyone is familiar with the Varyag. It is this Turkey that blocked the Varyag in the Bosphorus Strait for more than a year for safety reasons. It did not count as a deposit of one billion yuan. It also deceived our long-range rocket launcher. Technology, unmanned aerial vehicles and other advanced technologies are exported by their own cottages. The second thing is to buy the Hongqi-9 air defense missile technology. First, they pretended to announce that the Hongqi-9 had won the bid, defrauded us of a lot of technology, and also took the opportunity to force other missiles to lower their prices. For sufficient reasons, the bid was announced to be cancelled. The means are greedy and cunning, and have no faith at all. The third thing is the Turkish government. Some people in the private sector often make nonsense about China's Xinjiang issue, smear and smear the Chinese government's Xinjiang policy, and secretly support Xinjiang separatists. Especially in Syria, it is even more blatant, offering money and weapons, and even openly dispatching the army to support religious extremists such as the Islamic State, which is the boss behind the East Turkistan movement. Turkey's actions have seriously violated our sovereignty and harmed our country's interests. A heavy ticking time bomb was planted on our country's westward road. It is reasonable for the majority of patriotic netizens to be disgusted with him. In addition, he is a young boy with big ambitions, and his ability is matched with his ambition. It makes people feel stupid and disgusting, and it is necessary to degrade him.


you can use google translate to watch that

the Chinese want to kill us all and destroy us every day,we even didnt invade china for 1000years...

i never see any of our people said destroy chinese or kill chinese people,but they are hate us like crazy
If you use google searching for some specific information, you'll end up believing that Chinese people hate every country the most. don't forget China has 1.4 billion people and China also has her fair share of crazy bunch in every domain. By the same token, If I do the same, I may end up believing Turk hate China the most.
 

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If you use google searching for some specific information, you'll end up believing that Chinese people hate every country the most. don't forget China has 1.4 billion people and China also has her fair share of crazy bunch in every domain. By the same token, If I do the same, I may end up believing Turk hate China the most.
you can find it and showed to us,i dont think there are more than 30replay but you guy always more than 1000 reply 90% want to kill Turks

I learned chinese and search all the big websites in China, you guys hate us for no reason.

even the normal news website using the title

“狗中哈士奇 国中土耳其”​

Turkey is a dog
 

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If you use google searching for some specific information, you'll end up believing that Chinese people hate every country the most. don't forget China has 1.4 billion people and China also has her fair share of crazy bunch in every domain. By the same token, If I do the same, I may end up believing Turk hate China the most.
i just search Turkey 土耳其
 

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you can find it and showed to us,i dont think there are more than 30replay but you guy always more than 1000 reply 90% want to kill Turks

I learned chinese and search all the big websites in China, you guys hate us for no reason.

even the normal news website using the title

“狗中哈士奇 国中土耳其”​

Turkey is a dog
Some people also say China is a dog, do they represent any majority? some individual crazy comments mean nothing to the mainstream of a country.

 

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Some Russians in this video hateChina so much and curse China with the strongest language, do they represent the general opinion of Russians towards China?

 

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