TR Air-Force EF Typhoon

[Sanchez]

No details on the deal exist yet

"Under the contract, BAE Systems will deliver spares and support equipment, associated engineer and pilot training, high-fidelity training simulators and electronic warfare capabilities. In addition, BAE Systems will provide technical support services for an initial three-year term from entry into service of the aircraft.
The contract will support the Turkish Armed Forces to deliver operational readiness and effectiveness and progressively increase the nation’s sovereign support capability.
This follows the agreement, announced in October, between the UK and Turkish governments for the purchase of 20 Typhoon aircraft, which underscores the critical role Typhoon plays in the security and defence of Europe and the Middle East.

Manufacturing of the new aircraft for Türkiye is already underway in the UK and across the Eurofighter partner nations, with the first aircraft scheduled to be delivered in 2030.

Under separate agreements with the UK Government, the Royal Air Force will train 10 Turkish instructor pilots and nearly 100 maintenance trainers, ensuring the Turkish Air Force can independently deliver training and support to future pilots and ground crew, further strengthening the relationship between the two nations.

https://www.baesystems.com/en/article/turkiye-typhoon-support-and-training-contract

 

[Sanchez]

"Under the contract, BAE Systems will deliver spares and support equipment, associated engineer and pilot training, high-fidelity training simulators and electronic warfare capabilities. In addition, BAE Systems will provide technical support services for an initial three-year term from entry into service of the aircraft.
The contract will support the Turkish Armed Forces to deliver operational readiness and effectiveness and progressively increase the nation’s sovereign support capability.
This follows the agreement, announced in October, between the UK and Turkish governments for the purchase of 20 Typhoon aircraft, which underscores the critical role Typhoon plays in the security and defence of Europe and the Middle East.

Manufacturing of the new aircraft for Türkiye is already underway in the UK and across the Eurofighter partner nations, with the first aircraft scheduled to be delivered in 2030.

Under separate agreements with the UK Government, the Royal Air Force will train 10 Turkish instructor pilots and nearly 100 maintenance trainers, ensuring the Turkish Air Force can independently deliver training and support to future pilots and ground crew, further strengthening the relationship between the two nations.

https://www.baesystems.com/en/article/turkiye-typhoon-support-and-training-contract

As noted previously, at least first of the new builds are expected to arrive without LTE and with Mk0 radars; it may change for later airframes. They can be dubbed Trance 4+.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2036817840272019847

 

[Strong AI]

As noted previously, at least first of the new builds are expected to arrive without LTE and with Mk0 radars; it may change for later airframes. They can be dubbed Trance 4+.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2036817840272019847

Don't they no longer call it LTE but MLU, because they want them in service until 2060?

 

[Afif]

As noted previously, at least first of the new builds are expected to arrive without LTE and with Mk0 radars; it may change for later airframes. They can be dubbed Trance 4+.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2036817840272019847

Why MK0 though? Serially produced MK1 radar was delivered for Spanish and German jets afaik. Can't it he chosen for Turkish jets.

 

[Gaucho]

Eurofighter T4

 

[Yasar_TR]

Why MK0 though? Serially produced MK1 radar was delivered for Spanish and German jets afaik. Can't it he chosen for Turkish jets.

MK1 radar is produced by Hensoldt. It is tecnologically behind the LeonardoUK produced MK2 version. Especially on EW.

Typhoons that have MK0 can be retrofitted with MK2 fairly quickly.
It would be a different story for the MK1.

Upgrading from ECRS Mk0 to ECRS Mk2 is generally considered more straightforward than upgrading from ECRS Mk1, primarily because the Mk0 serves as the direct baseline "core product" developed by Leonardo UK. Mk0 provides a more "plug-and-play" foundation for future Leonardo-driven upgrades. Upgrading from Mk1 to Mk2 would involve replacing a specialized, "new" system rather than just adding capabilities to a standard foundation.

So it is more prudent and logical to go for MK0 than MK1 if you are aiming for the best in later stages.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

I would consistently limit the proportion of German hardware in the Eurofighter Typhoon to a minimum. Whilst it cannot be avoided entirely, any additional integration unnecessarily strengthens German influence over maintenance, software, approvals and future upgrades. The aim must be to keep this influence as low as possible.
Furthermore, we should no longer offer Germany any further grounds for criticism and blockades in future. For years now, the country has ceased to act as a strategically independent player, but is visibly under the influence of external interests – particularly from the US, Israel, Greece and France. A consistent, sovereign foreign policy is barely discernible any longer.
At the same time, the stance towards Turkey is clearly limited: economic cooperation, yes, but no genuine partnership on equal terms. It is precisely this line that should be reflected – functional relations as customer and supplier, but no deepening dependencies or strategic interdependencies.
From personal experience, it can be said that Turkey’s technological development is being closely monitored in Germany – and it is creating tangible pressure and envy. The fact that this progress is taking place without German involvement strikes a raw nerve. The reasons for this are well known, but are rarely stated openly. Instead, Turkey is portrayed across the board in Germany as ‘unreliable’ – a narrative that is politically convenient but obscures the actual background. There are good reasons why Turkey get partnerships in the fields of drones, fighter jets and technology are offered and maintained with all Eurofighter Consortium partners such as the UK, Italy and Spain. But in the other hand, deliberately excludes Germany from the equation. We do not support obstructionists, and that is that!

 

[Sanchez]

MK1 radar is produced by Hensoldt. It is tecnologically behind the LeonardoUK produced MK2 version. Especially on EW.

Typhoons that have MK0 can be retrofitted with MK2 fairly quickly.
It would be a different story for the MK1.

Upgrading from ECRS Mk0 to ECRS Mk2 is generally considered more straightforward than upgrading from ECRS Mk1, primarily because the Mk0 serves as the direct baseline "core product" developed by Leonardo UK. Mk0 provides a more "plug-and-play" foundation for future Leonardo-driven upgrades. Upgrading from Mk1 to Mk2 would involve replacing a specialized, "new" system rather than just adding capabilities to a standard foundation.

So it is more prudent and logical to go for MK0 than MK1 if you are aiming for the best in later stages.

To add to this, with hopefully soon to arrive second hard birds with Mk0 and Captor-M; we would have commonality and easier path of later retrofitting them.