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Is there a reason that we are harboring and protecting Hezbollah terrorists that side with Assad?
Same reason as Israel supporting the PKK/YPG.

Is damaging relations with Israel important ?
Not after Israel openly supporting YPG(PKK) a while ago.
It was an important relationship for both.
Israeli Airforce training in Türkiye.
Israel providing intelligence and weapons to us when sanctions and embargos were implemented by the US and others.
 

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Is there a reason that we are harboring and protecting Hezbollah terrorists that side with Assad? Is damaging relations with Israel important ?

I dont care if Israel whines about how their mossad cells gets taken down.

Even Iranian cells are taken down by MIT.

None of them belong in Turkiye.

Turkiye should never be a spying playground.
 

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Same reason as Israel supporting the PKK/YPG.


Not after Israel openly supporting YPG(PKK) a while ago.
It was an important relationship for both.
Israeli Airforce training in Türkiye.
Israel providing intelligence and weapons to us when sanctions and embargos were implemented by the US.

Israel also had a hand in taking Turkiye's F35s away from them just so they can keep their military quality edge in the region.
 

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I dont care if Israel whines about how their mossad cells gets taken down.

Even Iranian cells are taken down by MIT.

None of them belong in Turkiye.

Turkiye should never be a spying playground.
Since the foundation of the Republic, Turkey has been a major battleground for espionage on all sides. Some obviously against us and some involving other actors against each other.
I somehow support the idea of ‘kids playing at the playground under the watchful eyes of an adult’ rather than playing two blocks away, without my supervision, if you know what I mean.
Human based espionage, after ultra tech espionage, is old school but still valid way and Turkey was a good player at this one iirc.
 
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I dont care if Israel whines about how their mossad cells gets taken down.

Even Iranian cells are taken down by MIT.

None of them belong in Turkiye.

Turkiye should never be a spying playground.

We have also been infiltrating other countries to capture Gulenists.

But what is important is I think there is something to the timing of this story released by Daily Sabah, which is linked to AKP leadership.
 

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The Economist has published a list of European countries that knowingly or unknowingly become Russia's accomplices. The list is called "Putin's Useful Idiots."

It included Hungary, Austria, Greece, Turkey, Serbia and Switzerland. The role of pro-Russian politicians like Marine Le Pen, Robert Fico, Matteo Salvini and others is singled out separately.
 

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The Economist has published a list of European countries that knowingly or unknowingly become Russia's accomplices. The list is called "Putin's Useful Idiots."

It included Hungary, Austria, Greece, Turkey, Serbia and Switzerland. The role of pro-Russian politicians like Marine Le Pen, Robert Fico, Matteo Salvini and others is singled out separately.

Economist= fake news trash.

Inreresting how Germany is not on the list or France.
 

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The Economist has published a list of European countries that knowingly or unknowingly become Russia's accomplices. The list is called "Putin's Useful Idiots."

It included Hungary, Austria, Greece, Turkey, Serbia and Switzerland. The role of pro-Russian politicians like Marine Le Pen, Robert Fico, Matteo Salvini and others is singled out separately.
France should be nr 1(weapons technology) on the list followed by Germany(banking and weapon technology by setting up companies in Russia under the name ''Made in Russia'') .
 

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The Economist has published a list of European countries that knowingly or unknowingly become Russia's accomplices. The list is called "Putin's Useful Idiots."

It included Hungary, Austria, Greece, Turkey, Serbia and Switzerland. The role of pro-Russian politicians like Marine Le Pen, Robert Fico, Matteo Salvini and others is singled out separately.
Clowns be clownin'. News at 11.

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Ineresting how they are like Turkiye does not restrict Russian citizens.

Do people forget the huge population of Muslims and Turkic peoples which Turkiye shares religious, racial and cultural ties?

Why should we barr Volga Tatars? Also Kazan is also a popular city for Turkish tourists.

Turkiye just shutting down all of that is shooting your own foot.
 

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Two days ago we passed 20. anniversy of Hood Event which presented new dilemma for Turkiye's national security as U.S. stopped pretending be our ally and started openly acting as PKK's main sponsor.While United States taking control of PKK and being its main sponsor started all way at early 90s with fall of Soviet Union.Only difference is they have denying this reality and their support to PKK was rather low as they still actted like our ally but 2001 Iraq Invasion coming they stopped hiding their intentions and started doing their thing openly.Finally failed coup attemp of Gulenist(resident American assets) and their purge by Erdogan this support became even more forceful caused U.S.-TR relationship status to fall to nearly zero as of today.

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Two days ago we passed 20. anniversy of Hood Event which presented new dilemma for Turkiye's national security as U.S. stopped pretending be our ally and started openly acting as PKK's main sponsor.While United States taking control of PKK and being its main sponsor started all way at early 90s with fall of Soviet Union.Only difference is they have denying this reality and their support to PKK was rather low as they still actted like our ally but 2001 Iraq Invasion coming they stopped hiding their intentions and started doing their thing openly.Finally failed coup attemp of Gulenist(resident American assets) and their purge by Erdogan this support became even more forceful caused U.S.-TR relationship status to fall to nearly zero as of today.

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During this time the US was providing direct intelligence to us about PKK movements. It's not true. Perincek and the eurasianists did a great job.

The problem was over the status of KRG and the 12 mile buffer zone + a say in Kirkuk that was wanted and that Americans disagreed with. The Americans wanted to build the Kurdish enclave to balance Shia influence in postwar Iraq.
 
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During this time the US was providing direct intelligence to us about PKK movements. It's not true. Perincek and the eurasianists did a great job.

The problem was over the status of KRG and the 12 mile buffer zone + a say in Kirkuk that was wanted and that Americans disagreed with. The Americans wanted to build the Kurdish enclave to balance Shia influence in postwar Iraq.
Is it the hate against Erdogan saying this or you have no clue about what went on and is going on?
So how is the Shia influence in Iraq going?
 

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During this time the US was providing direct intelligence to us about PKK movements. It's not true. Perincek and the eurasianists did a great job.

The problem was over the status of KRG and the 12 mile buffer zone + a say in Kirkuk that was wanted and that Americans disagreed with. The Americans wanted to build the Kurdish enclave to balance Shia influence in postwar Iraq.

Invasion of Iraq led to the increase of Shia influence in the Middle East.

Iran having its tentacles in Iraq, Yemen, Syria and Lebanon is all thanks to the Muricans and the destabilisation of the Middle East when they invaded Iraq.
 

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Two days ago we passed 20. anniversy of Hood Event which presented new dilemma for Turkiye's national security as U.S. stopped pretending be our ally and started openly acting as PKK's main sponsor.While United States taking control of PKK and being its main sponsor started all way at early 90s with fall of Soviet Union.Only difference is they have denying this reality and their support to PKK was rather low as they still actted like our ally but 2001 Iraq Invasion coming they stopped hiding their intentions and started doing their thing openly.Finally failed coup attemp of Gulenist(resident American assets) and their purge by Erdogan this support became even more forceful caused U.S.-TR relationship status to fall to nearly zero as of today.

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We will never forget or forgive this treachery.
 

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Clowns be clownin'. News at 11.

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Isnt the economist owned by the usual establishment families of britain like the rothschilds and others blue blood families?

Its fascinating how easy it is for the billionaire minority to entirely control what the poor global majority thinks and feel.

No media ever exposes these powerful familes and their influence on world affairs.
 

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France should be nr 1(weapons technology) on the list followed by Germany(banking and weapon technology by setting up companies in Russia under the name ''Made in Russia'') .
France is western european, they can avoid sanctions, do shady stuff abroad and even instigate genocides in africa yet still they will never be the evil ones.
But Turkey that doesnt implement western sactions, the same west that sanctions Turkey itself, yeah this is the evil country for them.

The west is hypocritical like no other.
 

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France is western european, they can avoid sanctions, do shady stuff abroad and even instigate genocides in africa yet still they will never be the evil ones.
But Turkey that doesnt implement western sactions, the same west that sanctions Turkey itself, yeah this is the evil country for them.

The west is hypocritical like no other.
If the Francophile nations decide to put an end to France's central bank colonialism and nationalise their resources, that'd be the end of France as an economical super power.
 

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Is it the hate against Erdogan saying this or you have no clue about what went on and is going on?
So how is the Shia influence in Iraq going?

The hood event was not caused by or marked the start of the American's relationship with the PKK. I don't understand why retroactively change history ?
 

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