TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

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The Hurjet trainer will most likely get a mechanical radar

Hurjet light fighter I expect to have AESA

I don't agree with you on Trainer version of Hurjet being equipped with a radar. Likely they will simulate radar contacts and keep the platforms as cheap as possible.
 

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I don't agree with you on Trainer version of Hurjet being equipped with a radar. Likely they will simulate radar contacts and keep the platforms as cheap as possible.

Simulation can always be, but IMO a radar in a trainer aircraft is a plus (TUSAS needs something more than competition to find markets)

Anyway these are speculations, we get spoiled easily and are already dreaming how our aircraft can be outstanding. :)
 

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Simulation can always be, but IMO a radar in a trainer aircraft is a plus (TUSAS needs something more than competition to find markets)

Anyway these are speculations, we get spoiled easily and are already dreaming how our aircraft can be outstanding. :)

It already has in-flight refuelling :) The only competition as I see it is Boeing T-7
 

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Hurjet - Man-Machine interface development
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any more info on this? aware of engine trust issue but is this seriously considered?


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We talked to him, I wonder whether something that can land and take off on the (TCG Anadolu) ship is being studied. "
Bit more info on the matter.
 

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"Lazer entegre montaj fikstürü kontrol sistemi"
Laser integrated assembly fixture control system
If you guys remember the KFX assembly line large piece placement tooling, I guess a similar system is being developed for TFX and Hürjet.

 
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Looks like the Navy might be getting a new toy :)

Tuncay Copur (Hurjet Project Manager) Initial feasibility studies indicates that Hurjet would be capable of landing and taking off from aircraft carrier and meet operational requirements.
 
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Looks like the Navy might be getting a new toy :)

Has the engine part been fixed ? I mean what will be the engine of Hurjet ? Has the contract been made with the engine OEM to supply the program ?
 

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Hürjet's max speed is targeted as mach 1.3, tells something about the engine but who can interpret with lots of dots missing.
 

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Hurjet max speed will be Mach 1.4. Hurjet prototype production is going on at full speed. 4400 parts will be produced this year and prototype assembly will start by the end of this year. Hangar rollout and ground tests will follow. The maiden flight of the first prototype will be done by the end of next year. The first flight of the second prototype will be done in Q1 of 2023 most likely in February.

Mr.Kotil gave the ejection seat as an example to explain the economy of scales. We have no problems with Martin-Baker and its ejection seats.

Aselsan F-16 AESA radar has a newly designed cooling system. The cooling system is designed and produced by a local company that also designs and produces the cooling system of CAFRAD radar. In comparison, SABR radar uses existing legacy F-16 parts and it is nearly form-fitted to the aircraft.
 
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Hurjet max speed will be Mach 1.4. Hurjet prototype production is going on at full speed. 4400 parts will be produced this year and prototype assembly will start by the end of this year. Hangar rollout and ground tests will follow. The maiden flight of the first prototype will be done by the end of next year. The first flight of the second prototype will be done in Q1 of 2023 most likely in February.

Mr.Kotil gave the ejection seat as an example to explain the economy of scales. We have no problems with Martin-Baker and its ejection seats.

Aselsan F-16 AESA radar has a newly designed cooling system. The cooling system is designed and produced by a local company that also designs and produces the cooling system of CAFRAD radar. In comparison, SABR radar uses existing legacy F-16 parts and it is nearly form-fitted to the aircraft.
Both Hurjet and KAI-T50 are primarily trainer planes. But they can become more. KAI is offering their trainer with GE-404 in standard trainer configuration same as Hurjet. But the same plane is offered as a CAS plane with GE-414 or EJ-200 engine. The latter however has not proven itself in a single engine form.
Same can be true for Hurjet.
GE-404 engine has 17700lbf to 19000lbs thrust depending on the variant.
GE-414 engine has 22000lbf thrust. This engine will make a baby F16 out of Hurjet. Probably top speed in excess of Mach 1.6 and more usable load capacity. Also for Carrier operations this engine will have a marked advantage.
As a trainer it may not be noticed much. But as a souped up small fighter it may attract resistance from engine suppliers. Time will show.
 

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Hurjet max speed will be Mach 1.4. Hurjet prototype production is going on at full speed. 4400 parts will be produced this year and prototype assembly will start by the end of this year. Hangar rollout and ground tests will follow. The maiden flight of the first prototype will be done by the end of next year. The first flight of the second prototype will be done in Q1 of 2023 most likely in February.

Mr.Kotil gave the ejection seat as an example to explain the economy of scales. We have no problems with Martin-Baker and its ejection seats.

Aselsan F-16 AESA radar has a newly designed cooling system. The cooling system is designed and produced by a local company that also designs and produces the cooling system of CAFRAD radar. In comparison, SABR radar uses existing legacy F-16 parts and it is nearly form-fitted to the aircraft.
Contrary to previously announced number of mach 1.4 the representative in the video of post #862 says the speed will be up to mach 1.3 He is calling it mah instead of mak. Is it a different thing than the mach we know or is he lying?
 

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Top speed is mach 1.4. Top speed of aircrafts might change with their configuration(clean config vs combat load). Mach number and top speed also changes with the altitude. Top speed @sea level and @40k feet might differ due to air density. Click the link and scroll down. 1.4 is probably the


Engine thrust is also given @19200lbs those figures are locked. The critical design review phase completed and prototype production is started.
 
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Contrary to previously announced number of mach 1.4 the representative in the video of post #862 says the speed will be up to mach 1.3 He is calling it mah instead of mak. Is it a different thing than the mach we know or is he lying?
Konya to most of it’s inhabitants is “Gonya”! In Adana flying creatures are called “Guş” .
Pronunciation is a bitch!
Mach has an “h” in there. He just wants to pronounce every letter!!🤣.
Jokes to one side ; like most military company officials he is being over conservative in his specification release to public!
 

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It will be near impossible. Anadolu doesn't have an angled landing strip.
 

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It will be near impossible. Anadolu doesn't have an angled landing strip.
Neither did the WW2 carriers. QE2 carrier has two parallel runways. Angled runways are there for landing and missing the arrester and re taking off while another plane is taking off.
Second runway is necessary if you are employing large number of aircrafts off of a carrier and you need to have simultaneous landings and take offs.
You don’t really need a second runway if you are going to have 6-12 planes. They can take turns in landing and take off. It is a slower process but nevertheless possible. Airports with single runways operate perfectly well. re: Gatwick?? planes wait for their turn to either land or take off!
 
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They are studying the possibility of using Hürjet on TCG Anadolu too, not just on a full blown Carrier.
Correct. I thought initially that Mr Copur was talking about a full blown carrier operation for Hurjet. But according to below link Mr Demir is also talking about Hurjet , operating from TCG Anadolu in the last paragraph.
 

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