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seems like it will replace Barak 1

Replacing Barak-1, providing SAM armament finally to Kamorta-class corvettes, adding short-range option for P-15A/B destroyers (like how CAMM/SeaCeptor being added to Type 45 destroyers), provide indigenous option for AAW armament for smaller ships like NGC & NGMV...this missile will address so many problems we currently have.
 

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Air version of BrahMos missile successfully test fired​

The launch is a major milestone in the BrahMos development. It clears the system for the serial production of the air-version of BrahMos missiles within the country.​

SNS | New Delhi | December 8, 2021 1:00 pm

BrahMos missile


Air version of BrahMos supersonic cruise missile was successfully test fired from the supersonic fighter aircraft Sukhoi 30 MK-I at 1030 hrs today from Integrated Test Range, Chandipur off the coast of Odisha.
In this copybook flight, the missile launched from the aircraft followed the pre-planned trajectory meeting all mission objectives.
The launch is a major milestone in the BrahMos development. It clears the system for the serial production of the air-version of BrahMos missiles within the country.
Major airframe assemblies which form the integral part of the Ramjet Engine are indigenously developed by Indian Industry. These include non-metallic air frame sections comprising Ramjet fuel tank and pneumatic fuel supply system.


During the test, the structural integrity and functional performance have been proven. The air version of BrahMos was last flight tested in July 2021.
Defence Minister Rajnath Singh praised Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), BrahMos, Indian Air Force and the industry on the successful test firing.
Congratulating the teams involved in the flight test, Secretary Department of Defence R&D and Chairman DRDO Satheesh Reddy said various laboratories of DRDO, academic institutions, quality assurance & certification agencies, Public Sector undertakings and Indian Air Force participated in the development, testing, production and induction of this complex missile system.
BrahMos is a Joint Venture between India (DRDO) and Russia (NPOM) for the development, production and marketing of the supersonic cruise missile. BrahMos is the potent offensive missile weapon system already inducted into the armed forces.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...upersonic-cruise-missile-101638948833256.html

https://www.thestatesman.com/india/...ssile-successfully-test-fired-1503028978.html
 
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If that target had been a tank it would have been a miss

If it were a tank it would have hit the tracks.

That said, two things:

1) the missile has either IR or MMW seeker, a canvas target really doesn't have much signature in either spectrum...assuming the seeker was even live in the test. Could have been a ballistic non guided (BNG) mode to validate the INS navigation & propulsion systems.

2) there is such a thing as CEP or circular error probable. If a missile has a 1 meter CEP, it means 50% of missiles fired will hit within 1 meter of targeted location guaranteed. The remaining 50% may or may not - it's always a toss up.
 

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If it were a tank it would have hit the tracks.

That said, two things:

1) the missile has either IR or MMW seeker, a canvas target really doesn't have much signature in either spectrum...assuming the seeker was even live in the test. Could have been a ballistic non guided (BNG) mode to validate the INS navigation & propulsion systems.

2) there is such a thing as CEP or circular error probable. If a missile has a 1 meter CEP, it means 50% of missiles fired will hit within 1 meter of targeted location guaranteed. The remaining 50% may or may not - it's always a toss up.

On that part, something we both missed:

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The SMART (Supersonic Missile-Assisted Release of Torpedo) missile was tested again today, previous test was over a year ago.

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The SMART is a long-range Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) weapon system designed to function as part of network-centric sea-denial. It's basically a ballistic missile with a lightweight torpedo as the payload. The system will rely on off-board targeting cues from active & passive sensors like shipborne/aircraft-deployed sonar or seabed hydrophone arrays respectively. Once a threat has been identified & localized, SMART is launched (from either ship or land) with a range of up to 650 km which it can travel in a relatively short time (its a ballistic missile after all)...a lot sooner than a helicopter or MPA like P-8 can get to a location and deploy ASW weapons.

Once in the area the torpedo is released mid-air, and descends into water on its own & searches the area for a target as it conventionally would.

Functionally, it can be said that the role performed here is somewhat similar to the cancelled UUM-125 Sea Lance program:


The payload carried is believed to be the indigenous Advanced Light Weight Torpedo (ALWT) "Shyena" - a 324mm system also deployable from aircraft & ships. In 2017 the same torpedo (not with SMART ofcourse) was also sold to the Myanmar Navy.

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The SMART (Supersonic Missile-Assisted Release of Torpedo) missile was tested again today, previous test was over a year ago.

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The SMART is a long-range Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) weapon system designed to function as part of network-centric sea-denial. It's basically a ballistic missile with a lightweight torpedo as the payload. The system will rely on off-board targeting cues from active & passive sensors like shipborne/aircraft-deployed sonar or seabed hydrophone arrays respectively. Once a threat has been identified & localized, SMART is launched (from either ship or land) with a range of up to 650 km which it can travel in a relatively short time (its a ballistic missile after all)...a lot sooner than a helicopter or MPA like P-8 can get to a location and deploy ASW weapons.

Once in the area the torpedo is released mid-air, and descends into water on its own & searches the area for a target as it conventionally would.

Functionally, it can be said that the role performed here is somewhat similar to the cancelled UUM-125 Sea Lance program:


The payload carried is believed to be the indigenous Advanced Light Weight Torpedo (ALWT) "Shyena" - a 324mm system also deployable from aircraft & ships. In 2017 the same torpedo (not with SMART ofcourse) was also sold to the Myanmar Navy.

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Still wondering how they decrease the speed of the RV to decrease the impact on torpedo . The fun part will be if they add multiple torpedos to cover the larger area and increase the chances of hitting the target .

Any idea how they update the missile mid-course ?
 

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Still wondering how they decrease the speed of the RV to decrease the impact on torpedo .

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The fun part will be if they add multiple torpedos to cover the larger area and increase the chances of hitting the target .

Or, they could just launch multiple missiles. I believe they'll launch minimum 2 for each contact to maximize chances. On a submarine or aircraft the space is very limited so can't carry many torpedos, but for land launch that isn't a problem.

Any idea how they update the missile mid-course ?

Data-link obviously. All sensors & shooters will be linked.

Similar to how a Astra BVRAAM has two-way datalink, SMART will only require one-way.
 

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The SMART (Supersonic Missile-Assisted Release of Torpedo) missile was tested again today, previous test was over a year ago.

View attachment 37231

View attachment 37232

The SMART is a long-range Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) weapon system designed to function as part of network-centric sea-denial. It's basically a ballistic missile with a lightweight torpedo as the payload. The system will rely on off-board targeting cues from active & passive sensors like shipborne/aircraft-deployed sonar or seabed hydrophone arrays respectively. Once a threat has been identified & localized, SMART is launched (from either ship or land) with a range of up to 650 km which it can travel in a relatively short time (its a ballistic missile after all)...a lot sooner than a helicopter or MPA like P-8 can get to a location and deploy ASW weapons.

Once in the area the torpedo is released mid-air, and descends into water on its own & searches the area for a target as it conventionally would.

Functionally, it can be said that the role performed here is somewhat similar to the cancelled UUM-125 Sea Lance program:


The payload carried is believed to be the indigenous Advanced Light Weight Torpedo (ALWT) "Shyena" - a 324mm system also deployable from aircraft & ships. In 2017 the same torpedo (not with SMART ofcourse) was also sold to the Myanmar Navy.

Ejn1lYJX0AAaFDe
Any idea why we use Tatra trucks as missile carriers when the likes to Tata or Ashok Leyland are more than capable to develop comparable platforms. We need enough of em given the number of offensive and defensive missile systems we're inducting while they can also be exported to friendly countries
 

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Any idea why we use Tatra trucks as missile carriers when the likes to Tata or Ashok Leyland are more than capable to develop comparable platforms. We need enough of em given the number of offensive and defensive missile systems we're inducting while they can also be exported to friendly countries

Army & other MoD users already have tens of thousands of Tatras lying around. Sure aren't going to throw them away when we paid hard money for them & they still have lot of service life left.

There is no specific preference for Tatra or Indian trucks. Mostly its dependent on the unit. Most of the newer systems are likely to have Indian trucks (TATA or ASL) as platforms, like the SPYDER:

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As of DRDO, they are likely to be reusing the same handful of older trucks (must have received pre-2010) again & again by mating it with a different launcher. It's just for missile testing so doesn't matter.
 

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Any idea why we use Tatra trucks as missile carriers when the likes to Tata or Ashok Leyland are more than capable to develop comparable platforms. We need enough of em given the number of offensive and defensive missile systems we're inducting while they can also be exported to friendly countries
If I remember correctly BMEL assembles Tatra trucks for 2x or 3x the cost in India. Obviously MOD was giving contracts to BMEL to keep the unions happy.
 

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If I remember correctly BMEL assembles Tatra trucks for 2x or 3x the cost in India. Obviously MOD was giving contracts to BMEL to keep the unions happy.
I hope all these PSUs get privatized asap...the recent corporatization re-org doesn't really work since it's still the same wolf in a new sheep's clothing

I've seen the tech specs and few documentaries of these Tatra trucks and they're nothing our Tata, ASL or Mahindra can't manufacture. As Gessler pointed out, it's fine if DRDO has been provided with some older trucks for their tests but it's just a waste of valuable forex when our private firms are manufacturing world class trucks and gained good name in the export market as well
 

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I hope all these PSUs get privatized asap...the recent corporatization re-org doesn't really work since it's still the same wolf in a new sheep's clothing

I've seen the tech specs and few documentaries of these Tatra trucks and they're nothing our Tata, ASL or Mahindra can't manufacture. As Gessler pointed out, it's fine if DRDO has been provided with some older trucks for their tests but it's just a waste of valuable forex when our private firms are manufacturing world class trucks and gained good name in the export market as well
Not exactly, Some recent report by some private consultant ( don't remember if it was Deloitte or something else) said at least 4 out of the seven will go extinct in 3 years. The corporatization will force them to get their act together and show profits or go bankrupt.

I cant find that article. ill try searching for it.
 
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The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) tested its Solid Fueled Ducted Ramjet (SFDR) technology for the fourth time with a demonstration flight earlier today, Livefist has reported.

The development of SFDR technology will enable India to make its own long-range air-to-air missile, which could mirror the capabilities of the best missiles in this class, like MBDA’s Meteor, which the Indian Air Force uses on its Rafales.

The last test of the technology was conducted in March 2021. The test, DRDO said back then, helped prove many technologies and sub-systems, including the ground booster motor and nozzle less motor.

"Successful demonstration of Solid Fuel based Ducted Ramjet technology has provided DRDO with a technological advantage which will enable it to develop long range air-to-air missiles. At present, such technology is available only with a handful of countries in the world. During the test, air launch scenario was simulated using a booster motor. Subsequently, the nozzle-less booster accelerated it to the required Mach number for Ramjet operation," the Ministry of Defence had said in a statement released after the test.

India has been working on the Mark-II version of home grown Astra air-to-air missile, which will have a range of around 160 kilometer. The SFDR propulsion system, which was also tested in 2019, is critical for the missile’s performance in the terminal phase of its flight towards the target.

The Meteor missile also depends on its ramjet propulsion for “more energy to maneuver during the endgame of the engagement”.

“The ramjet motor [propulsion system] provides the [Meteor] missile with thrust all the way to target intercept, providing the largest No-Escape Zone of any air-to-air missile,” the literature on the missile on MBAD website reads.

While the DRDO’s plan for Astra Mark-II is to mirror the performance of MBDA’s Meteor missile, it may take a few more years to reach there, experts say.
The development of the Astra missile began in 2001.

The Mark-I version of the missile was tested for the first time in May 2003. Since then, Astra Mark-I has been test-fired multiple times, and has been integrated with Su-30 MKI. In September 2019, the missile, test-fired from an Su-30MKI of the IAF, hit a target 90 kilometer away. The air-to-air missile has already been ordered in large numbers for the Indian Air Force and the Indian Navy.

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SFDR schematic (credit to original owner):

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