Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

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Which one that mature enough when procurement happen

Felon

 

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Felon

There are still a lot to improve though.
Cockpit for example

 

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No 5th gen engine no party

 

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No 5th gen engine no party

Still waiting for AL-51 then

 

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Its more mature than ws 10

 

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Why Not Both? lmao

Just pick one if we want those EX

I see no relevances between figates and EX procurement.

Of course there is, money in the pocket is limited

And he still "obey" to her so..

And Air Force wants more money for proper AEW&C, so.... yeah. Just pick one of those frigates please