Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

Anmdt

Experienced member
Naval Specialist
Professional
Messages
3,662
Solutions
1
Reactions
20 14,515
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Why they put the VLS for SAM at the bow section? That's a radical change from the original design.

Why they choose AShM with VLS? Are we hell-bent on putting Brahmos in this ship?
Brahmos was reported to get shorter and more compact versions soon,nowadays. Especially the ones comply with MTCR i guess. @Nilgiri may tell better.
So they haven't needed to have a VL there, they could place them with oblique launchers. But yeah "stelth".
Even the top-deck cover is uneven, it is inclined to make the VLS fit.
 

this is crunch

Well-known member
Messages
374
Reactions
310
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
i honestly hope they'd go with original AH140 design with custom config on middle hull section to either accomodate more Anti Ship Missile or VLS also the integrated radar mast according to our need.

still hoping for 127/64 for coastal bombardment purpose + 76mm anti air cannon (Strales or Sovraponte) config though.
Agree, stick to the original design that already tested with the consortium and using armament without any massive modification to the hull system, it will reduce building time thus as the operator will be more confident with proven design.

We don't know what problem will occur with this massive design modification
 

kanalkanan

New member
Messages
3
Nation of residence
Canada
Nation of origin
Indonesia
i honestly hope they'd go with original AH140 design with custom config on middle hull section to either accomodate more Anti Ship Missile or VLS also the integrated radar mast according to our need.

still hoping for 127/64 for coastal bombardment purpose + 76mm anti air cannon (Strales or Sovraponte) config though.
Who has this idea?
Are this design approved by babcok?
 

NEKO

Experienced member
Messages
1,700
Reactions
1,361
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Does PAL ready to build this Frigate or not? I don't want this project end up like Malaysian gowind.
When PAL successfully built PKR 10514 that's because the final design is provided by Damen and supervised by them, this time PAL want to go rogue and go ahead with their own modification because of "mUcH iNoVaTioN" "rEvOlUsI iNdUsTrI 4.0", even the 3D render is very meh.

I completely support this project but, Please PAL don't F#CK UP this project!
Is it mostly because of KEMENHAN/TNI AL/PAL that we end up with this design?

How come from this:
Iver-Huitfeldt-class-FFG-04.jpg

Become this:
fv1_3ktacaagllv-jpeg.45173

Ayyyy where is the rudder man...
 

NEKO

Experienced member
Messages
1,700
Reactions
1,361
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Let's assume it's just a bad CG work by unmotivated unpaid overworked intern.
Or just incompetent.

Its still a significant improvement tho when they use IH 3D model and not Arleigh Burke 3D model, because last time they used Astute 3D model for submarine, they got the type right this time.
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
2,586
Reactions
1,978
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
How about those supervision from German and Turkish companies?
Why it still ended up like that?
 

chiphocks

Active member
Messages
124
Reactions
47
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
i guess i better repost the pictView attachment 45173


So that's why, they insisted with 143 meter version, hadeeeh....
Please replace the Otomelara behind the VLS with CIWS......
even though the Otomelara Super Rapid can act like CIWS, i don't think that it would be that good / suitable compared to Goalkeeper or Oerlikon or RIM-116
Does PAL ready to build this Frigate or not? I don't want this project end up like Malaysian gowind.
When PAL successfully built PKR 10514 that's because the final design is provided by Damen and supervised by them, this time PAL want to go rogue and go ahead with their own modification because of "mUcH iNoVaTioN" "rEvOlUsI iNdUsTrI 4.0", even the 3D render is very meh.

I completely support this project but, Please PAL don't F#CK UP this project!
Is it mostly because of KEMENHAN/TNI AL/PAL that we end up with this design?

How come from this:
Iver-Huitfeldt-class-FFG-04.jpg

Become this:
fv1_3ktacaagllv-jpeg.45173

Ayyyy where is the rudder man...

Is it that difficult to see bro?
1655955288497.png
 
Last edited:

Anmdt

Experienced member
Naval Specialist
Professional
Messages
3,662
Solutions
1
Reactions
20 14,515
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
How about those supervision from German and Turkish companies?
Why it still ended up like that?
Told you before there was no such supervision.
Both companies they have named were not a design but engineering solution and consultancy companies. And there was only an MoU nothing further.
 
Top Bottom