Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Madokafc]

Mogami class armament actually depend on the user requirement, as they have spacious area for further growth in design

 

[Parry Brima]

$450mil each, fully weaponized? Or like the 1st batch of jmsdf mogami, ffbnw.

Most probably ffbnw. It'll be like AH140 again, "gado-gado" project.

On th other hand, Turkey has the ability to offer complete solution for F-142.

 

[FPXAllen]

Politically and economically , everything is in favor for Mogami class. Even when the president's is changing there is no problem at all as long as Japanese business interest still in place

Bold: in Indonesia, of course.

There are still some political aspects to consider in Japan's domestic audience, especially regarding arms sales to other countries - even though this is gradually being eased up considerably.

Oh well, at the very least, judging from what our ambassador has said, the deal is still going strong even if it's under the surface.

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1599731010337656832

Kasal: there will be refurbishment programs from MoD for old vessels, aimed at +30 years old, such as parchim, fosch, fpb....
Lol, what will they gonna do with those granpas

 

[Anmdt]

F-142 is bigger in dimension :
- 4x8 SAM (compare to 16 of Mogami)
- 2x8 SSM (8 of Mogami)
- 2 torpedo launchers (1 of Mogami)

Mogami deal was $3.6 bil for eight ships. Not sure how much F-142 would cost.

@Anmdt any correction/additional info?

F-142 and Mogami has the same full-load and unlike Mogami, F142 uses short-VLS intended for MICA missiles. (The central 2x8 is Slyver-50/70, sides are not). So total number of missiles that can be carried is mixture of 16 MICA + 16 Aster30/50 for F142 ; 64 ESSM or 8 SM2/3 + 32 ESSM.

Mogami has the upper-hand there with the number of total point defense missiles; 16 x quadpacked ESSM. Unless getting Mk41, Mogami loses this upper hand.

I fancy Mogami design over any other designs in the similar class, but i don't like their choice of SeaRAM and having single point defense / CIWD system. A ship of this size should have at least 2 x CIWDS.

Also it can pack a small to medium sized USV that can possibly carry 2 x 2 ASW torpedoes. The USV is not included in this price and stern ramp is rather utilized for SOF boats but that is definitely a leap if Indonesia is getting the USV capability.

 

[Lordimperator]

F-142 and Mogami has the same full-load and unlike Mogami, F142 uses short-VLS intended for MICA missiles. (The central 2x8 is Slyver-50/70, sides are not). So total number of missiles that can be carried is mixture of 16 MICA + 16 Aster30/50 for F142 ; 64 ESSM or 8 SM2/3 + 32 ESSM.

Mogami has the upper-hand there with the number of total point defense missiles; 16 x quadpacked ESSM. Unless getting Mk41, Mogami loses this upper hand.

I fancy Mogami design over any other designs in the similar class, but i don't like their choice of SeaRAM and having single point defense / CIWD system. A ship of this size should have at least 2 x CIWDS.

Also it can pack a small to medium sized USV that can possibly carry 2 x 2 ASW torpedoes. The USV is not included in this price and stern ramp is rather utilized for SOF boats but that is definitely a leap if Indonesia is getting the USV capability.

What radar will be used by Dearsan F142?

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1599739889863782400

 

[this is crunch]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1599739889863782400

wow, sending a submarine to other country? that's odd, especially we are not "legally" allied with Australia, wouldn't that be really dangerous since the subs can be monitored and measured via various sensors?

 

[Madokafc]

wow, sending a submarine to other country? that's odd, especially we are not "legally" allied with Australia, wouldn't that be really dangerous since the subs can be monitored and measured via various sensors?

Indonesia Australia is Bhai Bhai friend lah Since long we should be already a closer "friend" with them.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1600030666590081026

 

[schuimpjes]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1600030666590081026

Kekeyo again officially soon like Paskhas back to Pasgat (then PGT)? Kopassus to RPKAD when? Grup 1 and 2 as RPKAD 1 and 2. 60s name intensify.

Indonesia Australia is Bhai Bhai friend lah Since long we should be already a closer "friend" with them.

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I just can’t keep it myself. Looking at the 2nd picture a glimpse and I thought that Juliyatmono there.

 

[Lordimperator]

Indonesia Australia is Bhai Bhai friend lah Since long we should be already a closer "friend" with them.

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Sad no cutting steel ceremony AH140ID in November

 

[Anmdt]

Sad no cutting steel ceremony AH140ID in November

Feel lucky if it happens in December.
Neither anything regarding to FREMM or Maestrale.

 

[Lordimperator]

Feel lucky if it happens in December.
Neither anything regarding to FREMM or Maestrale.

I hope MoD will bring more good news soon, they dont have much time before the elections.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1600299413267972103

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1600772241259565056

 

[deadlast]

Ranpur Tank BMP 3F Menkav 2 Marinir Modernisasi Sistem Kesenjataan​

8 December 2022 |Pelopor Wiratama

(Surabaya). Dalam rangka pembaharuan dan memperkuat Alat Utama Sistem Senjata (Alutsista), Ranpur Tank amfibi yang berda di jajaran Korps Marinir TNI AL melaksanakan pemasangan SOZh-TM pada Kendaraan tempur (Ranpur) Tank BMP 3F bekerja sama dengan PT. Wecanindo Global Jaya di Garase Yontankfib 2 Mar Kesatrian Soetedi Senaputra, Bhumi Marinir Karangpilang, Surabaya. Kamis (08/12/2022).

SOZh-TM merupakan teropong yang dilangkapi dengan thermal berfungsi untuk mengukur jarak menggunakan laser yang proyeksikan dengan bidang elevasi dan defleksi serta sistem guide missile.

Kegiatan tersebut selaras dengan perintah harian Kepala Staf Angkatan Laut (Kasal) Laksamana TNI Yudo Margono untuk meningkatkan kesiapan dan kesiapsiagaan Sistem Senjata Armada Terpadu (SSAT) yang memiliki daya gerak dan daya gempur yang tinggi.

Tujuan dilaksanakan pemasangan SOZh-TM untuk modernisasi sistem kesenjataan Ranpur Tank BMP 3F guna mempermudah kru material Ranpur saat melaksanakan manufer, penijauan sasaran, maupun penembakan di medan tempur dengan komponen yang sudah canggih, selain itu untuk mendukung tugas pokok prajurit Korps Marinir TNI AL dalam menegakkan kedaulatan negara sebagai pasukan pendarat.

https://peloporwiratama.co.id/2022/...kav-2-marinir-modernisasi-sistem-kesenjataan/

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Marinir's BMP-3F receive new gunner sight and DVE upgrade, the old sight system (PPN-D SOZh) only has passive light intensifier/active IR illumination while this new one (SOZh-TM) has thermal imaging channel instead.

 

[Umigami]

Ranpur Tank BMP 3F Menkav 2 Marinir Modernisasi Sistem Kesenjataan​

8 December 2022 |Pelopor Wiratama

(Surabaya). Dalam rangka pembaharuan dan memperkuat Alat Utama Sistem Senjata (Alutsista), Ranpur Tank amfibi yang berda di jajaran Korps Marinir TNI AL melaksanakan pemasangan SOZh-TM pada Kendaraan tempur (Ranpur) Tank BMP 3F bekerja sama dengan PT. Wecanindo Global Jaya di Garase Yontankfib 2 Mar Kesatrian Soetedi Senaputra, Bhumi Marinir Karangpilang, Surabaya. Kamis (08/12/2022).

SOZh-TM merupakan teropong yang dilangkapi dengan thermal berfungsi untuk mengukur jarak menggunakan laser yang proyeksikan dengan bidang elevasi dan defleksi serta sistem guide missile.

Kegiatan tersebut selaras dengan perintah harian Kepala Staf Angkatan Laut (Kasal) Laksamana TNI Yudo Margono untuk meningkatkan kesiapan dan kesiapsiagaan Sistem Senjata Armada Terpadu (SSAT) yang memiliki daya gerak dan daya gempur yang tinggi.

Tujuan dilaksanakan pemasangan SOZh-TM untuk modernisasi sistem kesenjataan Ranpur Tank BMP 3F guna mempermudah kru material Ranpur saat melaksanakan manufer, penijauan sasaran, maupun penembakan di medan tempur dengan komponen yang sudah canggih, selain itu untuk mendukung tugas pokok prajurit Korps Marinir TNI AL dalam menegakkan kedaulatan negara sebagai pasukan pendarat.

https://peloporwiratama.co.id/2022/...kav-2-marinir-modernisasi-sistem-kesenjataan/

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Marinir's BMP-3F receive new gunner sight and DVE upgrade, the old sight system (PPN-D SOZh) only has passive light intensifier/active IR illumination while this new one (SOZh-TM) has thermal imaging channel instead.

Army Guide

Army Guide - information about the main battle tanks, armoured vehicles and armament of the land forces and also the information concerning other army subjects - SOZh-TM, Thermal imaging sight, Sighting Systems

www.army-guide.com

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601024701408497664

Banner of AH140ID "Frigate Merah Putih" ceremony.

Same banner at PAL complex.

Looks like Iver Huitfeldt radar config, APAR and Smart L.

 

[Madokafc]

Old news though in may 2022, Fincantieri already paid a visit to Indonesian PT PAL the visit Led by company project director/program manager of Fincantieri spa of Indonesia program, Fransesco Maione.

(Surabaya, 17 Mei 2022) PT PAL Indonesia menerima kunjungan dari tim Fincantieri, salah satu perusahaan kapal terbesar di Eropa. Bapak Satriyo Bintoro selaku SEVP Transformasi Manajemen PT PAL Indonesia serta didampingi Manajer terkait, secara langsung menyambut kunjungan perdana rombongan yang dipimpin oleh Mr. Francesco Maione di Gedung Pusat Informasi Perusahaan (PIP) PT PAL Indonesia.
“Seperti yang diketahui bahwa Fincantieri adalah perusahaan kapal terbesar di Eropa, dan tidak menutup kemungkinan akan adanya potensi kerjasama dengan PT PAL Indonesia kedepan” tutur Bapak Satriyo Bintoro dalam sambutannya.

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Gambar 1. SEVP Tranformasi Manajemen Bapak Satriyo Bintoro menyambut rombongan dari Fincantieri di Gedung PIP pada 17 Mei 2022. Sumber: Dokumentasi Perusahaan
Acara dilanjutkan dengan meninjau area fasilitas produksi PT PAL Indonesia yakni di Divisi Kapal Perang dan Divisi Kapal Niaga. Selama proses tinjauan lapangan tersebut, Mr. Fransesco menyampaikan sanjungannya terhadap fasilitas produksi serta sistem alur produksi PAL yang diakui mampu menghasilkan produk-produk alutsista kelas dunia. Agenda kunjungan Fincantieri di PT PAL Indonesia direncanakan akan berlangsung selama empat hari. Beberapa agenda diantaranya yakni meninjau aspek design engineering, supply chain, dan quality assurance PT PAL Indonesia. Lewat kunjungan tersebut, Mr. Fransesco menyatakan adanya potensi kerjasama jangka panjang antara Fincantieri dengan PT PAL Indonesia.
“We are very pleased to be here and first of all we would like to thank you for your great hospitality. Thank you for giving us the opportunity of this visit in order to continue to work together and to go on the our mutual acknowledge” ujar Aurora Buzzo selaku Proposal and Negotiation Manager Fincantieri ditemui dalam kesempatan tersebut.

Gambar 2. Tinjauan lapangan rombongan Fincantieri didampingi oleh Manajer produksi PT PAL Indonesia pada 17 Mei 2022. Sumber: Dokumentasi Perusahaan
PAL dengan berbagai pengalaman kerjasama strategis ditingkat global dalam pembangunan alutsista matra laut, yakni seperti Damen Shipyard-Belanda dalam pembangunan Kapal Perusak Kawal Rudal (PKR) KRI Raden Eddy Martadinata-331 dan KRI I Gusti Ngurah Rai-332, serta dengan Babcock International-Inggris khususnya dalam bidang desain kapal serta yang terbaru yakni Naval Group. Merupakan salah satu manifestasi dalam pemutakhiran alutsista matra laut, yang diharapkan mampu meningkatkan ketahanan dan kedaulatan maritim Indonesia.
“Kerjasama strategis di bidang pertahanan maritim merupakan wujud diplomasi politik internasional yang kuat serta untuk menjadi perusahaan yang mendunia. PT PAL Indonesia sebagai perusahaan kapal yang dipercaya oleh pemerintah dalam menyelesaikan proyek-proyek strategis nasional serta merupakan salah satu dukungan pemerintah dalam mewujudkan kemandirian alutsista nasional” tutup Bapak Satriyo Bintoro.
Untuk Informasi lebih lanjut, silahkan menghubungi:
Rariya Budi Harta Sekretaris Perusahaan PT PAL Indonesia
Telepon: 031-3292275 ext. 2002 Email: [email protected]

Tinjau Fasilitas Produksi PAL, Fincantieri Jajaki Potensi Kerjasama Strategis

(Surabaya, 17 Mei 2022) PT PAL Indonesia menerima kunjungan dari tim Fincantieri, salah satu perusahaan kapal terbesar di Eropa. Bapak Satriyo Bintoro selaku SEVP Transformasi […]

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