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Did we run out of hero names? Why fictional character?


I doubt they even know about that. Even if they knew, I doubt they even care to change the name. We also have other fictional characters in our ship naming, KRI Hang Tuah and KRI Malahayati.

Hang Tuah is a fictional character, his story and feats is partly based on the true story of Admiral Abd al-Jamil (Tun Abdul Jamil who is a real historical figure) from Johor.

Keumalahayati / Malahayati is likely 20th century invention based on the book Oude Glorie. It is possible that Marie van Zeggelen based that character on an oral story of Acehnese heroine, but that doesn't mean she existed. Malahayati's feats cannot be colloborated with Dutch records. Like Hang Tuah, she could be based on a real person, but who that real person is unknown.
 

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"The procedure for the delivery of the Revel Thaon Class Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Vessels (PPA) to the Indonesian Navy has entered into full swing.

At the Fincantieri shipyard in Muggiano (SP) the now former Ruggiero di Lauria took the official designation of KRI Brawijaya (BWJ) with hull number 320.

Following this, Marcantonio Colonna also became KRI Prabu Siliwangi (PBS) with identification number 321."

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"The procedure for the delivery of the Revel Thaon Class Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Vessels (PPA) to the Indonesian Navy has entered into full swing.

At the Fincantieri shipyard in Muggiano (SP) the now former Ruggiero di Lauria took the official designation of KRI Brawijaya (BWJ) with hull number 320.

Following this, Marcantonio Colonna also became KRI Prabu Siliwangi (PBS) with identification number 321."

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Lol its real,
 

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"The procedure for the delivery of the Revel Thaon Class Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Vessels (PPA) to the Indonesian Navy has entered into full swing.

At the Fincantieri shipyard in Muggiano (SP) the now former Ruggiero di Lauria took the official designation of KRI Brawijaya (BWJ) with hull number 320.

Following this, Marcantonio Colonna also became KRI Prabu Siliwangi (PBS) with identification number 321."

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I think i finally understand why the name seems edited, it's because the new name overwrites the old one, and the fresh paint makes it look edited
 

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The Navy should start focusing on procuring asw helo's, we can no longer expect the existing to become a dedicated asw due to lack of specs and the willingness of the government to complete the device in the panther.
 

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I doubt they even know about that. Even if they knew, I doubt they even care to change the name. We also have other fictional characters in our ship naming, KRI Hang Tuah and KRI Malahayati.

Hang Tuah is a fictional character, his story and feats is partly based on the true story of Admiral Abd al-Jamil (Tun Abdul Jamil who is a real historical figure) from Johor.

Keumalahayati / Malahayati is likely 20th century invention based on the book Oude Glorie. It is possible that Marie van Zeggelen based that character on an oral story of Acehnese heroine, but that doesn't mean she existed. Malahayati's feats cannot be colloborated with Dutch records. Like Hang Tuah, she could be based on a real person, but who that real person is unknown.
Is this what they call "What aboutism" ?

Beside, what ever your rabble is, Malahayati is recognized as Indonesia National Hero.

Though I agree with you that Hang Tuah is fictional character. We don't have a ship of his name at this moment and shouldn't have ship name of fictional character anymore.
 

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Is this what they call "What aboutism" ?

Beside, what ever your rabble is, Malahayati is recognized as Indonesia National Hero.

Though I agree with you that Hang Tuah is fictional character. We don't have a ship of his name at this moment and shouldn't have ship name of fictional character anymore.

There is ex Bathurst class (HMAS Ipswich) named KRI Hang Tuah, she is unfortunately sunk by B26 Invader off Balikpapan shore (Aurev/Permesta air force)
 

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For fictional or near myth names character to be used on our warship is actually no problem, people using those name to carry on the legacy and spiritual meaning not anything else. Both actually Siliwangi and Brawijaya are lore character and ones difficult to intrepet who actually they are, and can only be found on mythological reference...

Even big country such as United Kingdom sometime using fictional character for their warships such as achilles, ajax and so on.
 

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