Is Turkiye Israel’s next target in the Middle East?

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Is Turkiye Israel’s next target in the Middle East?​


In Washington, Michael Rubin, a senior fellow at the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute, suggested that Turkiye could be Israel’s next target and warned that it should not rely on its NATO membership for protection.

 

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What nonsense... Greece and Cyprus do not have the ammunition capacity or manpower for a war. Israel cannot supply Greece and Cyprus with material and wage war against Turkey at the same time.
USA (Focus China) and Europe (Focus Russia) will not tolerate a war within NATO, regardless of whether Greece and Israel are keen to wage one.
A war against Turkey would dissolve NATO and trigger World War III. Too many foreign stakeholders are tied to Turkey's banks, energy sector and supply chains. We are talking about several billion US dollars in investment here.
Turkey is not Iran, Afghanistan or Syria,
Turkey is a G20 Country and Top 2/3 (Ranking) Military capacity inside the NATO Alliance.
Please stop with such speculation; it makes no sense.
 
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If this will ever happen, it will be not a war between a nation and the colony. It will be a war between two ethnics. Without any rules and justice. Just like in the good old days…
 

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What nonsense... Greece and Cyprus do not have the ammunition capacity or manpower for a war. Israel cannot supply Greece and Cyprus with material and wage war against Turkey at the same time.
USA (Focus China) and Europe (Focus Russia) will not tolerate a war within NATO, regardless of whether Greece and Israel are keen to wage one.
A war against Turkey would dissolve NATO and trigger World War III. Too many foreign stakeholders are tied to Turkey's banks, energy sector and supply chains. We are talking about several billion US dollars in investment here.
Turkey is not Iran, Afghanistan or Syria,
Turkey is a G20 Country and Top 2/3 (Ranking) Military capacity inside the NATO Alliance.
Please stop with such speculation; it makes no sense.
That’s your opinion…
I am a little bit surprised, as I could think that you sleeped the last two years. What we see right now, is the beginning of WW-3. Last week, France talked about to use a nuclear weapon to scare off Russia.
 

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If this will ever happen, it will be not a war between a nation and the colony. It will be a war between two ethnics. Without any rules and justice. Just like in the good old days…
I don't understand what you mean here. The article you are citing from M. Rubin is from Sep 2025. The video is also old. Rubin is not to take seriously. He is a fanatic hater of Türkiye. Much more important is what Trump thinks. And he said repeatedly Netanyahu should be reasonable, so he won't support such a war. After Doha attack of Israel, I also thought Israel will attack Türkiye during that period but not sure if this is still on their table now. Seeing what is happening in Iran, Israel may want to wait a bit in the hope of using Iran against us in a few years. That will be much easier and safer for them.

In any case, we should continue at the same pace of armament.
 

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To explain this in a short, Israel and Turkey are the biggest regional powers in the region, them going at war would be very catastrophic, not only for the said countries but for the whole region.

We have experienced the 12 days war live, can we 100% say that Israel achieved it's goal during that time? Very hard to say, but i personally think that Israel cannot afford to wage a similar war against Turkey. Simply put, Turkey militarily and technologically is very self sufficient, has the technology to harm Israel as much as Israel can harm Turkey, so these 2 countries avoid a direct conflict, as both of the countries' bureaucrats openly stated before.
 

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That’s your opinion…
I am a little bit surprised, as I could think that you sleeped the last two years. What we see right now, is the beginning of WW-3. Last week, France talked about to use a nuclear weapon to scare off Russia.
A modern state can only wage war seriously if it possesses a deep and sustainable defense-industrial base. What matters is not a handful of high-tech systems, but the ability to produce ammunition, spare parts, and weapon systems in large quantities and over the long term. This is precisely what Greece and Cyprus completely lack.
Both countries have virtually no domestic arms production. Everything essential is imported. Whatever is fired or destroyed is simply gone – there is no industrial replacement capacity. Without continuous external supply chains, their militaries would become operationally ineffective within a very short time. This is not warfighting capability; it is structural dependence.
Israel, while technologically advanced – producing drones, precision-guided munitions, missiles, electronic warfare systems, and cyber capabilities – faces a similar limitation. It lacks the industrial depth for a prolonged conventional war. Large-caliber ammunition, aircraft spare parts, bombs, and major systems still come predominantly from the United States. This is exactly why the concept of “Qualitative Military Edge” (QME) exists: Israel is qualitatively strong, but not self-sufficient. Without U.S. resupply, its operational capability would be severely constrained.
A look at economic weight alone shows how unrealistic such a war scenario would be. Turkey’s economy is larger than those of Greece, Israel, and Cyprus combined. And it is precisely this economic mass that decides wars: industry, energy, logistics, steel production, chemical manufacturing – not social media narratives or political rhetoric.
Equally important: Turkey is not isolated. It is deeply integrated economically with Europe, Asia, and the Middle East, is a NATO member, and embedded in global supply chains. Without complete isolation – meaning embargoes, blockades, and economic severance – a war against an industrial state is strategically impossible. These conditions simply do not exist.
And finally, a fundamental military principle:
Those who truly intend to attack do not announce it.
Instead, they rely on secrecy, deception, and quiet operational preparation. Loud threats, media theatrics, and constant public warnings are classic signs of deterrence born of weakness, not real offensive capability.
 

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What nonsense... Greece and Cyprus do not have the ammunition capacity or manpower for a war. Israel cannot supply Greece and Cyprus with material and wage war against Turkey at the same time.
USA (Focus China) and Europe (Focus Russia) will not tolerate a war within NATO, regardless of whether Greece and Israel are keen to wage one.
A war against Turkey would dissolve NATO and trigger World War III. Too many foreign stakeholders are tied to Turkey's banks, energy sector and supply chains. We are talking about several billion US dollars in investment here.
Turkey is not Iran, Afghanistan or Syria,
Turkey is a G20 Country and Top 2/3 (Ranking) Military capacity inside the NATO Alliance.
Please stop with such speculation; it makes no sense.
Some are inclined to believe that the events unfolding in Turkey's neighboring countries were orchestrated by external forces with the aim of harming Turkey—in Syria, Iraq, and now Iran.

In reality, it all began in distant Tunisia 15 years ago with an arson attack by a hapless fruit seller and gradually spread to Libya, Egypt, and other Arab countries that have no bearing on Turkey's security. Moreover, it should be noted that Turkey itself participated in these events, known as the "Arab Spring," on its own initiative, and at the time, it had normal relations with the United States and Israel.

Syria was, in fact, the last country to experience anti-government protests, and initially, they had nothing to do with Turkey.

And now, conspiracy theorists are retroactively proposing that enemies are deliberately setting fire to Turkey's neighbors, and that Turkey has found itself caught in a fiery ring of wars. They even add Ukraine to this list, where a terrible war has been raging for four years. Well, conspiracy theorists, what does this war have to do with Turkey? The Black Sea lies between Ukraine, Russia, and Turkey. Ukraine has no navy, with the exception of one frigate, which, incidentally, was recently built in Turkey. And Russia, yes, has a fleet in the Black Sea, but given how they hide it, it would be better for the Russians if it didn't exist at all 😆
Who set Iran on fire two weeks ago? The US and Israel? How? Were they the ones who drove the Iranian rial into a free fall? Obviously not. And yet, that is precisely what caused the recent events.
Yes, it is also obvious that the enemies of the Islamic Republic will waste no time in harming the Iranian mullahs. But one should not confuse the effect with the cause.
As for the Greeks: yes, the Greeks are hostile to Turkey. But they have been hostile for a thousand years. And they'll be feuding for another 1,000 years.

But! For conspiracy theorists, I'd especially like to point out this humorous saying: just because you're not schizophrenic doesn't mean you're not being watched🤣
 
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I must say those threats against Türkiye in the media, coming also from Israeli ministers were useful. Otherwise, Erdogan would not have ordered doubling of Tayfun missile production and increase of Steal Dome components procurement. As well known, we tend to procrastinate things and only react forcefully in the last minute! Same holds for EF deal.
 
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