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Actual Middle Eastern Jews yes, european Jews however are genetically closer to their european kin.
Modern Israelis claim to be the descendants of ancient jews, yet don't demand a DNA test proving your ancient jewish heritage. Instead you just have to present a document showing that your parents/grandparents were followers of the jewish religion. Meanwhile european Jews specifically promoted the idea of Zionism as another colonial project and even now they literally call themselves "Settlers".
You wouldn't call yourself that if you believed yourself to be native to said land.
Can't you just literally convert and apply for Aliyah?
 

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Actual Middle Eastern Jews yes, european Jews however are genetically closer to their european kin.
Modern Israelis claim to be the descendants of ancient jews, yet don't demand a DNA test proving your ancient jewish heritage. Instead you just have to present a document showing that your parents/grandparents were followers of the jewish religion. Meanwhile european Jews specifically promoted the idea of Zionism as another colonial project and even now they literally call themselves "Settlers".
You wouldn't call yourself that if you believed yourself to be native to said land.

They are just European, Asian and African mercenaries/converts and they have no place or roots Palestine, like this Ethiopian guy below. He flew back to Ethiopia after his bloody duty in Gaza so we are now waiting for the real Ethiopians (christians & muslims) to pay him a friendly visit.


 

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Can't you just literally convert and apply for Aliyah?

Afcourse, because the real jews didnt want to move to someone elses land and forcibly remove the original inhabitants.

So the Entity turned their policiy to integrate converts as settlers.

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So this whole discussion about mythology from 3000 years ago is a moot point. It's not about ethnicity or a people inheriting a land or being indigenous to it, it's about a religion which anyone can claim. I wonder why these discussions persist while there's such clear-cut refutation of it!
 

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Actual Middle Eastern Jews yes, european Jews however are genetically closer to their european kin.
Modern Israelis claim to be the descendants of ancient jews, yet don't demand a DNA test proving your ancient jewish heritage. Instead you just have to present a document showing that your parents/grandparents were followers of the jewish religion. Meanwhile european Jews specifically promoted the idea of Zionism as another colonial project and even now they literally call themselves "Settlers".
You wouldn't call yourself that if you believed yourself to be native to said land.
Meaningless. Average Turk only has between 25-30 percent Central Asian DNA. Can you claim Turks are not Turks? DNA has no meaning on this issues.
 

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Afcourse, because the real jews didnt want to move to someone elses land and forcibly remove the original inhabitants.

So the Entity turned their policiy to integrate converts as settlers.

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You can find millions of self-hating Turks too. These are just extreme outliers. Unity between Jews are much stronger than the unity between the Turk. Maybe only 5% of the Jews are against the Israel's actions.
 

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Meaningless. Average Turk only has between 25-30 percent Central Asian DNA. Can you claim Turks are not Turks? DNA has no meaning on this issues.
Category conflation: one is strictly about citizenship the other is a claim to a land. Israel is free to define its citizenship however it wants (including accepting converts to Judaism as citizens); however the religion is then used as a claim to a land (and even to lands beyond national borders) which results in the comical situation of a person having a claim to a land based on recent conversion while having no relation to the land; in the meantime excluding those whose ancestors have been living in those lands for centuries.
 
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Turkiye should do a special 3 day operation to liberate Palestine and Israel.

Arabs and Jews cant stop killing each other so the Turks are the best in the business to keep these two apart.
 

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Turkiye should do a special 3 day operation to liberate Palestine and Israel.

Arabs and Jews cant stop killing each other so the Turks are the best in the business to keep these two apart.

Ankara initiates UN arms embargo on Israel

«Turkey has handed over to the UN a letter containing a call from 52 states, as well as two international organizations, to impose an arms embargo against Israel.

This was reported by diplomatic sources in the Turkish Foreign Ministry.

Earlier, at the suggestion of Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan, an initiative was put forward to the UN on a joint appeal to draw the attention of the international community to the issue of stopping the sale of weapons and ammunition to Israel.

The initiative is aimed at preventing Israel from violating international law, including international humanitarian law and human rights, in the occupied Palestinian territories, especially in the Gaza Strip, by stopping the sale of weapons and ammunition to Israel.

The signatories to the letter include Turkey, Palestine, Bahrain, Bangladesh, the United Arab Emirates, Bolivia, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Burkina Faso, Algeria, Djibouti, the People's Republic of China, Indonesia, Morocco, Gambia, South Africa, Iraq, Iran, Qatar, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Colombia, the Union of the Comoros, Kuwait, Cuba, Libya, Lebanon, Maldives, Malaysia, Mexico, Egypt, Mauritania, Namibia, Nigeria, Nicaragua, Norway, Pakistan, Russia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Sao Tome and Principe, Senegal, Somalia, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Chile, Tunisia, Oman, Jordan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen and Zimbabwe. The document was signed by the League of Arab States (LAS) and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC)».

You are probably suggesting something more militant? Without, most importantly, China and Russia, in my opinion, this cannot be done. For a number of reasons, Turkey should not, figuratively speaking, run ahead of the locomotive.
But if together with China and Russia...

 
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The signatories to the letter include Turkey, Palestine, Bahrain, Bangladesh, the United Arab Emirates, Bolivia, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Burkina Faso, Algeria, Djibouti, the People's Republic of China, Indonesia, Morocco, Gambia, South Africa, Iraq, Iran, Qatar, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Colombia, the Union of the Comoros, Kuwait, Cuba, Libya, Lebanon, Maldives, Malaysia, Mexico, Egypt, Mauritania, Namibia, Nigeria, Nicaragua, Norway, Pakistan, Russia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Sao Tome and Principe, Senegal, Somalia, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Chile, Tunisia, Oman, Jordan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen and Zimbabwe. The document was signed by the League of Arab States (LAS) and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC)».

This list is basically made of countries with a large muslim population and countries with hard left or communist leaders. One of the big problems of Palestinians when it comes to gathering support outside the muslim world is their association with communists and far left politicians, which makes everyone else skeptical.

Just look at the non-muslim countries supporting this initiative:
Bolivia - far left leader
Brazil - far left leader
China - Communist regime
South Africa - far left leader
Colombia - far left leader
Cuba - Communist regime
Mexico - far left leader
Norway - one of the few exceptions
Russia - imperialist dictator with communist and fascist tendencies
Chile - far left leader
Venezuela - Communist leader
Vietnam - Socialist / former Communist regime

It’s not recommended to be in such a bad company.
 

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This list is basically made of countries with a large muslim population and countries with hard left or communist leaders. One of the big problems of Palestinians when it comes to gathering support outside the muslim world is their association with communists and far left politicians, which makes everyone else skeptical.

Just look at the non-muslim countries supporting this initiative:
Bolivia - far left leader
Brazil - far left leader
China - Communist regime
South Africa - far left leader
Colombia - far left leader
Cuba - Communist regime
Mexico - far left leader
Norway - one of the few exceptions
Russia - imperialist dictator with communist and fascist tendencies
Chile - far left leader
Venezuela - Communist leader
Vietnam - Socialist / former Communist regime

It’s not recommended to be in such a bad company.

Thats because the other countries (especially Western nations) are lead by far-right or centre-right cabinets and they are in the judeo-christian AIPAC-pocket. They dont even recognize the State of Palestine.

The Palestinians cant get a foot between the door in those nations, despite their diplomatic missions. Jewmoney is just to strong for that.

Meanwhile, they resist very well on the battlefield and let the zionists run for their lives.

 

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This list is basically made of countries with a large muslim population and countries with hard left or communist leaders. One of the big problems of Palestinians when it comes to gathering support outside the muslim world is their association with communists and far left politicians, which makes everyone else skeptical.

Just look at the non-muslim countries supporting this initiative:
Bolivia - far left leader
Brazil - far left leader
China - Communist regime
South Africa - far left leader
Colombia - far left leader
Cuba - Communist regime
Mexico - far left leader
Norway - one of the few exceptions
Russia - imperialist dictator with communist and fascist tendencies
Chile - far left leader
Venezuela - Communist leader
Vietnam - Socialist / former Communist regime

It’s not recommended to be in such a bad company.
words have meanings.
 

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