TR is the one isolated, especially in Syria left holding the bag. Erdogan has alienated almost everyone.
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TR is the one isolated, especially in Syria left holding the bag. Erdogan has alienated almost everyone.
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Nothing can be done about it
While I do believe that it is wrong and should be abhored, those who suffer may think otherwise
That is why I said that both Israel and Hamas are terrorists but oppose different sides
This is a video where retired Israeli soldiers are laughing while reminiscing the moment when a colleague used to rape 16 year old girls and shooting unarmed schoolchildren
The cycle of blood is too deep and it may be an explanation for why many members in this forum support Hamas' actions since Palestinians have been getting raped and butchered for nearly 2 decades and yet they didnt recieve the same sympathy Israel is getting within 2 days
And I agree that its the fault of Palestine for investing in suicide attacks and radicalism rather than science and technology but that doesnt give Israel the right to oppress people to such a degree when they themselves are the invaders
This is such a joke, they are crying for losing one member while some families lost tens in one attack
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So should Erdogan support the US-backed PKK or should they support the Russians who killed 36 soldiers while the whole West gave the middle finger to Turkey? Or should Turkey just retreat from Syria and leave the whole border strip to radical Shia Kurds who wants to divide Turkey?
Turkey is alone in Syria not because it followed the wrong policy but because Turkey is being punished for pursuing its own national interests
I have been ignoring you a lot mate but even ignorance has limits
There is fighting back and there is being plain stupid. What short and long term effects did this attack have? A sense of terror and danger for the Israelis? Showing them that the Palestinians can fight back and inflict heavy damage? Israel still has a far more superior military might and will just hit back 10x harder and eventually retake all territories Hamas currently controls. As long as Hamas is unable to cease the territories it took long term and force Israel to admit some type of being defeated, no matter how small, this does them more harm than good.
At the end of the day both Palestinians and Israelis are 1:1 the same. Yesterday it was Palestinians getting killed, today its Hamas killing Israeli civilians and tomorrow it will be back to Israelis bombing Gaza again. The Arabs went to war with Israel time and time again, which only ended in their defeat over and over.
If it's interns at MIT, this is official government position. They are echoing AKP sentiment.
Clash report has been non stop tweeting pro-Hamas tweets. It's coordinated.
Otherwise why would they retweet one_dawah content?
Fahrettin Altun is working overtime
So why do people become terrorists?
Could it be because their countries were invaded in Iraq and Afghanistan? Or because there is no power to demand their rights? While the USA, Russia or European countries commit genocide as they wish, no one holds them accountable. This causes people to go astray. They also consider it normal to respond to oppression with oppression. Therefore, this is a matter of action and reaction. If you sow a storm, you won't reap a rose garden.
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As long as the news isnt false
I dont see why you are criticising it in the first place
TR was supporting muslim brotherhood against many countries in the region such as Egypt, you can see the result of that in Syria and East Med.
Who are the radical Shia Kurds? There are none in Syria. Unless the PKK suddenly found religion.
Because it's being used for domestic social engineering, there is nothing the AKP will do to actually benefit Palestinians,
I would disagree if the government was using social media to glorify Israel too.
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Since I could not find the original source of the tweet, I am sharing it anonymously account from on my wall:
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You don't make sense.
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The only signal that hamas sent with this attack is that israel should not losen their grip to ensure security. Hamas single handedly legitimized whatever human rights Israel might violate in the future, there were already not many but now there will be none listening to their cries.
Great strategy indeed.
Lol there we go.
Erdogan calling for the creation of Palestine with Jerusalem as it's capital.
The man is burning political capital to stay relevant between Iran, the West and the Arabs.
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Fortunately, he did not make a statement to the extent I feared. This is already the overwhelming view of UN member states. Exactly the same thing was said by Putin yesterday. I think there is progress.
I like to think his advisers were trying to stop him for days and he managed to escape them and steal the mic
But his advisors are also idiots.
If there was a terrorist attack in Turkey by PKK and over 1000 people were killed, how would we feel about countries saying it was about time to solve the "Kurdish question" and establish "Kurdistan" ?
During this time TR was trying to improve relations with Israel as well. It could be worse but it could have been a lot, lot better.
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Oh, thank god he is talking like Putin, and it thought its gonna be something bad...
Supporting the Palestinians is a problem, but supporting Israel is not a problem, right?
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That's not what I meant, he said almost same thing, that what an UNSC member state said yesterday. This is what dozens of countries have already said in the UN assembly. In other words, he didn't say anything that would make a lot of headlines, he didn't make a stupid statement that would draw all the arrows. If an advisory board with people like Davidson were still in place, he would probably have said something extremely ridiculous. It's still not ideal, but I think progress is undeniable.
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I'm all for Iran and company supporting / arming Palestine (Hamas) and USA and their allies supporting / arming Israel. Let them war and let the side that wants victory more win! They clearly despise each other. Let them kill each other as they will.
May the side who cares most about their survival win!
