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The Tik Tok ban (which effectively is a ban although not explicitly) is 100% because of the Israel lobby. There are a lot of shadowbanning and burying done on other platforms that didn't exist on Tik Tok. There was already appetite for the ban for sure, but the lobbying pressure is the reason it happened so quickly, while the democrats know it's going to hurt their numbers. Democrats are fine with losing the election to help Israel.


There seems to be some desperation. Both on the part of Jewish lobby and American political stablishment. This is not gonna go well for them in the long run.
 

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The Tik Tok ban (which effectively is a ban although not explicitly) is 100% because of the Israel lobby. There are a lot of shadowbanning and burying done on other platforms that didn't exist on Tik Tok. There was already appetite for the ban for sure, but the lobbying pressure is the reason it happened so quickly, while the democrats know it's going to hurt their numbers. Democrats are fine with losing the election to help Israel.
Consimiliter, I forgot to mention but a month ago my Instagram account was deleted because of a reply to an Israeli claiming they are always "victorious", to which I replied "is that you bar Kokhba?"

I was reminded of it because I was trying to comment on a video of Israelis, who are blocking aid to Gaza, being interviewed claiming they were doing it because they want to starve them to force them release hostages. I was trying to say that is a bullshit excuse, because if you starve a place, the hostages in that place will also starve, so the main motive is blood lust. I started the comment though with "dipshit israelis". Too much for YouTube apparently, because I was prompted with a warning I saw for the first time about "hate speech". I deleted the "israelis" part and the comment went through fine. Then I tried the same exact comment with "dipshit palestinians" and there was no warnings about hate speech.
 

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Canada began imposing an arms embargo on Israel.
 

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Israelis Craft Secret Plan to Put Anti-Hamas Palestinians in Charge of Gaza Aid|WSJ

“A top Israeli defense official has held talks with Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan to build regional support for an emerging effort to enlist Palestinian leaders and businessmen who have no links to Hamas—a U.S.-designated terrorist organization—in distributing aid, some of the officials said.”

Those who responsible for this aid distribution would also gonna be those who run Gaza after war, at least for a while.

Three candidates are Majid Faraj of PA’s General Intelligence Service; businessman who build Palestinian city of Rawabi, Bashar Masri; and notorious Mohammad Dahlan.

Article about Majid Faraj
 

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The $1.2 Trillion usd government spending package that USA 🇺🇸 will unveil today officially puts UNRWA funding for Palestine 🇵🇸 on hold until March, 2025. In 2022 and 2023 USA provided the agency with $364 million usd and $371 million usd.

This is the right thing to do. Let the wealthy Arab / Muslim nations in the region and around the world look after Palestinians. Better yet, the leader of HAMAS is a multi-billionaire, he can easily afford to pick up the slack for his people. Qatar 🇶🇦 hosts HAMAS' leadership. Maybe the people of Qatar will pick up the bill. Iran 🇮🇷, Turkey 🇹🇷 , Egypt 🇪🇬, or some a coalition of those nations could easily afford it as well.

 
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"Israel may not be able to use atomic bombs in Gaza because then it would suffer casualties itself, and the country would be uninhabitable, but it can drop atomic bombs on other countries without hesitation. As Muslim countries know this, they do not want to mess with Israel. Otherwise, the conflicts of the last few months have shown that an Israeli army without nukes would be easily defeated. However, the presence of nuclear weapons acts as a deterrent."

"Hence, the problem is the lack of nuclear weapons. Both Arab and non-Arab Muslim countries are lagging behind in terms of obtaining nukes. Atomic bombs should have been secretly produced long ago. Israel also secretly produced them and never declared their existence. Muslim countries could have done the same. If they had done so, perhaps the Palestinian problem would have been solved."

How do they come to that conclusion that an Israel without nuclear weapons would be easily defeated? If that were the case how come Arab coalitions kept getting rekt by Isreal? Or is the "nuclear card" just an islamist excuse to pardon erdogans inaction?
 

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"Israel may not be able to use atomic bombs in Gaza because then it would suffer casualties itself, and the country would be uninhabitable, but it can drop atomic bombs on other countries without hesitation. As Muslim countries know this, they do not want to mess with Israel. Otherwise, the conflicts of the last few months have shown that an Israeli army without nukes would be easily defeated. However, the presence of nuclear weapons acts as a deterrent."

How do they come to that conclusion that an Israel without nuclear weapons would be easily defeated? If that were the case how come Arab coalitions kept getting rekt by Isreal? Or is the "nuclear card" just an islamist excuse to pardon erdogans inaction?
"Easily" is a huge stretch. Israel has, by far, the most capable air force of its adversaries in the region. Nuclear weapons act as an insurance policy, but the IDF is a capable army, although flawed like all armies.
 

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"Easily" is a huge stretch. Israel has, by far, the most capable air force of its adversaries in the region. Nuclear weapons act as an insurance policy, but the IDF is a capable army, although flawed like all armies.

Yes, but I think if Türkiye can successfully put KAAN, Milden, SIPER block 3, TF2000 frigate in service by 2034, Israel will loose it's long held qualitative edge in the Middle East. Of course, it doesn't mean these two countries will go to war or something, but if Türkiye supply those systems to KSA, Qatar and other Arab countries it will lead to a different regional security arrangement.
 

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Yes, but I think if Türkiye can successfully put KAAN, Milden, SIPER block 3, TF2000 frigate in service by 2034, Israel will loose it's long held qualitative edge in the Middle East. Of course, it doesn't mean these two countries will go to war or something, but if Türkiye supply those systems to KSA, Qatar and other Arab countries it will lead to a different regional security arrangement.
No argument here.
 

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No argument here.

Have you ever heared something called 'just a comment'?

I don’t have to make argument each time.
 
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Palestine state is over Ukraine
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How do they come to that conclusion that an Israel without nuclear weapons would be easily defeated? If that were the case how come Arab coalitions kept getting rekt by Isreal? Or is the "nuclear card" just an islamist excuse to pardon erdogans inaction?


What will Erdogan do ? Militarly Turkey is geographicly far away from Israel to do anything. Just sending some Ships which IDF can easyly sink ?

We still have no real long Range Strike Capabillity, even not a Prototype of Gezgin LACM Was tested. Maybe we can send some Tayfun and they can hit some IDF Airbases
 

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