Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

[begturan]

Your love for terrorists is disgusting. The death and suffering of the Palestinian people is because of what Hamas did, and yet you praise these terrorists as some great heroes. Tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians have died because of Hamas, and the rest live in poverty and have lost their homes because of them.

How can you support so much evil?

No! israel was killing Palestinians civilians before Hamas attack and after Hamas attack. Hamas is just try to defend their land from invaders.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Hasbara works like bleach on some people's brains.

 

[Scott Summers]

Ceasefire reached!

Long live the resistance!

Hamas outlasted the combined forces of the Western superpowers.

Isolated and blocked from the outside world they still defeated Israel.

Israel couldnt liberate the hostages with force and get pressured to come to the negotiation table.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1879582970698444801

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1879585039295672607

 

[begturan]

This is truly incredible, the Palestinians stopped the so-called most modern army in the world with only rifles and rockets! Despite the support of America and Western countries, Israel could not take a place as big as a district.

And look at Turkey, we conquered all of Syria in a weekend

There are of course many reasons behind this failure, there are also many reasons behind the Palestinians' success, and we need to analyze them well.

This is also a success of Turkey's initiatives and political moves in the international arena; many initiatives were made in the background.

In the next stage, Israel must withdraw from the occupied Lebanese and Syrian lands. The only solution for Israel's survival is a two-state solution in Palestine. It must abandon its greed and cruelty and retreat.

 

[Saithan]

remember when IDF buldozered a path through Gaza and drew a line, I do not believe Israel will allow Gazans to return north/back to there places. as Such Israel will reduce Gaza and force people to live in even smaller area.

Also Egypt imo did the right thing considering Israel trying its hardest to force the civilians to flee from Gaza even to Egypt. Even if it's horrid.

 

[begturan]

remember when IDF buldozered a path through Gaza and drew a line, I do not believe Israel will allow Gazans to return north/back to there places. as Such Israel will reduce Gaza and force people to live in even smaller area.

Also Egypt imo did the right thing considering Israel trying its hardest to force the civilians to flee from Gaza even to Egypt. Even if it's horrid.

Israel must give up this shameless and lawless attitude, if they continue like this they will be preparing their own end. They do not own all of humanity as they think, the rest of the world is not goyim who are lower than animals, they will have to learn this truth by being destroyed.

 

[Saithan]

Israel must give up this shameless and lawless attitude, if they continue like this they will be preparing their own end. They do not own all of humanity as they think, the rest of the world is not goyim who are lower than animals, they will have to learn this truth by being destroyed.

Why must they give it up, when they have the necessary backing to get through with it.

It is the same with YPG, if we don't force our operation and wait for permission then YPG won't be going anywhere, Starting an operation would clearly destroy any plans YPG has

 

[Lool]

This may come true at any moment
Iam quite skeptical about the ceasefire tbh
With peace, Natenyahu will be out of office and knowing how much of an egoist Natenyahu is, I really doubt that he will just accept such a defeat willingly without any response

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1879780856467956066

 

[begturan]

Why must they give it up, when they have the necessary backing to get through with it.

It is the same with YPG, if we don't force our operation and wait for permission then YPG won't be going anywhere, Starting an operation would clearly destroy any plans YPG has

Because everything they do is against international law and draws the reaction of all people, and tomorrow this situation will bring about very devastating consequences for Israel.

I think there is no need to explain that the PKK and its extensions have been established and managed by the Israeli brain team for years, and likewise, the PKK is a terrorist organization and an occupying structure like Israel.

The PKK is a tool tasked with depopulating and destabilizing the region, its mission is to prepare the Middle East for an Israeli invasion, after the invasion the Jews will be the masters and the Kurds will be the slaves, we will not allow this process to end. We're not going to bury our heads in the ground and remain indifferent to what's going on.

 

[Saithan]

Because everything they do is against international law and draws the reaction of all people, and tomorrow this situation will bring about very devastating consequences for Israel.

I think there is no need to explain that the PKK and its extensions have been established and managed by the Israeli brain team for years, and likewise, the PKK is a terrorist organization and an occupying structure like Israel.

The PKK is a tool tasked with depopulating and destabilizing the region, its mission is to prepare the Middle East for an Israeli invasion, after the invasion the Jews will be the masters and the Kurds will be the slaves, we will not allow this process to end. We're not going to bury our heads in the ground and remain indifferent to what's going on.

I seriously doubt that, some EU countries have taken clear steps to stop what's been going on every since Israel grabbed so much land in the 6.days war, but look at how long it took.

Now that there is a ceasefire deal these steps will disappear into nothingness because of other imminent dangers. None of the Arab countries have taken any step, not even in the Mahgreb (north africa).

And with France, Germany and England aligned for Israel rest of EU doesn't really matter much.

 

[begturan]

I seriously doubt that, some EU countries have taken clear steps to stop what's been going on every since Israel grabbed so much land in the 6.days war, but look at how long it took.

Now that there is a ceasefire deal these steps will disappear into nothingness because of other imminent dangers. None of the Arab countries have taken any step, not even in the Mahgreb (north africa).

And with France, Germany and England aligned for Israel rest of EU doesn't really matter much.

This is a process, no event is erased from memory, on the contrary, it is reinforced day by day. Even if some states do not take action today due to their weak administrators, everything is recorded in the memory of the people, such covered-up events may cause a change in their administrations tomorrow, just like in Syria. This sometimes happens with an uprising, sometimes with democracy.

The structure called Zionism cannot control everything and it is not possible to stop this process.

The social struggle that people will give against injustice and unfairness is above all plans and calculations.

 

[Saithan]

This is a process, no event is erased from memory, on the contrary, it is reinforced day by day. Even if some states do not take action today due to their weak administrators, everything is recorded in the memory of the people, such covered-up events may cause a change in their administrations tomorrow, just like in Syria. This sometimes happens with an uprising, sometimes with democracy.

The structure called Zionism cannot control everything and it is not possible to stop this process.

The social struggle that people will give against injustice and unfairness is above all plans and calculations.

I disagree, controlling information like China or like US /West can be done, and one narrative can be pushed. Which is why it's important to have free press and not what it has become. Without free press you can never trust the news you read. Selective journalism is also control of narrative.

 

[begturan]

I disagree, controlling information like China or like US /West can be done, and one narrative can be pushed. Which is why it's important to have free press and not what it has become. Without free press you can never trust the news you read. Selective journalism is also control of narrative.

The media used to be under the control of certain powers, but today there is an independent structure called social media, no matter how much they try to prevent some truths, they cannot be prevented and the truths come to light.

When people do research independently, they can find out who is wrong and who is right, and it is now possible to reach the correct information despite all kinds of manipulation and deterioration.

That is why the fraudulent structure called Zionism has exploded and is now doomed to disappear.

 

[Saithan]

The media used to be under the control of certain powers, but today there is an independent structure called social media, no matter how much they try to prevent some truths, they cannot be prevented and the truths come to light.

When people do research independently, they can find out who is wrong and who is right, and it is now possible to reach the correct information despite all kinds of manipulation and deterioration.

That is why the fraudulent structure called Zionism has exploded and is now doomed to disappear.

And how much of those news do we get from Social media that is not under US control.

X - Elon Musk has literally joined Trump, so why are we still using that platform and not a different platform
Facebook - has said they're no longer doing Fact Check on Trump, and relying on user input, which is similar to BS.

Perhaps Telegram is the only option there is at the moment, but it doesn't work or spread news like the other two I mentioned. I think it's more important than ever to ensure multiple sources of news to stay connected.

 

[begturan]

And how much of those news do we get from Social media that is not under US control.

X - Elon Musk has literally joined Trump, so why are we still using that platform and not a different platform
Facebook - has said they're no longer doing Fact Check on Trump, and relying on user input, which is similar to BS.

Perhaps Telegram is the only option there is at the moment, but it doesn't work or spread news like the other two I mentioned. I think it's more important than ever to ensure multiple sources of news to stay connected.

You are right about this, the most reliable source seems to be telegram right now, but as far as I know it is not very common. No matter what, if you want to learn the truth, it depends on our efforts, I personally try to research many sources, analyze all of them and learn the truth.

 

[begturan]

https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/live-blog-gaza-deal-in-jeopardy-as-netanyahu-delays-israeli-cabinet-meet-18254303

Natenyahu appears to have obstructed the peace process, making the same mistakes that dictator Bashar al-Assad did.

 

[Saithan]

https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/live-blog-gaza-deal-in-jeopardy-as-netanyahu-delays-israeli-cabinet-meet-18254303

Natenyahu appears to have obstructed the peace process, making the same mistakes that dictator Bashar al-Assad did.

Assad lost control of most of his country and had to settle with what RU and Iran could help him retain, Netanyahu isn't anywhere near that.

 

[begturan]

Assad lost control of most of his country and had to settle with what RU and Iran could help him retain, Netanyahu isn't anywhere near that.

The Soviet Union was also very powerful but their regime was destroyed because of the oppression they carried out, there are many examples like this, those who prosper through oppression will be in trouble, history repeats itself.

 

[Saithan]

The Soviet Union was also very powerful but their regime was destroyed because of the oppression they carried out, there are many examples like this, those who prosper through oppression will be in trouble, history repeats itself.

You should go read up on that again. Soviets fall cannot be compared to Israels current situation at all.

I think you have to look at a country's trade relations in order to better evaluate their current situation. and while this is outdated (2022) It still paints a right picture.

Trade picture​

• Israel is the EU’s 25th biggest trade partner, representing 0.8% of the EU’s total trade in goods in 2022. It is also among the EU’s main trading partners in the Mediterranean area.
• The EU is Israel’s biggest trade partner, accounting for 28.8% of its trade in goods in 2022. 31.9% of Israel’s imports came from the EU, and 25.6% of the country’s exports went to the EU.
• Total trade in goods between the EU and Israel in 2022 amounted to €46.8 billion. The EU’s imports from Israel were worth €17.5 billion and were led by machinery and transport equipment (€7.6 billion, 43.5%), chemicals (€3.5 billion, 20.1%), and other manufactured goods (€1.9 billion, 11.1%). The EU’s exports to Israel amounted to €12.2 billion and were dominated by machinery and transport equipment (€12.3 billion, 41.9%), chemicals (€5.1 billion, 17.6%), and other manufactured goods (€3.5 billion, 12.1%).
• Two-way trade in services between the EU and Israel amounted to €16.7 billion in 2021. EU imports of services represented €6.9 billion, while exports accounted for €9.8 billion.

EU trade relations with Israel

Facts, figures and latest developments.

policy.trade.ec.europa.eu