Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

[4MikeEcho]

At the moment there is no such physical project. But there is the will and a project in the hands of Qataris and Turks.
Discussions to revive the long-stalled Qatar-Turkey gas pipeline project have resurfaced following significant political shifts in the region, particularly after the fall of the Assad regime in Syria.
Before Syrian war, it was the main project of Turkish and Qatari sides. But the war in Syria put the brakes on it. (It is rumoured that Saudis and UAE were against this project at the time)

Recently Turkiye, Qatar and Jordan have been meeting to bring the project back in to life.

REVIVAL OF THE QATAR-TÜRKİYE NATURAL GAS PIPELINE PROJECT

REVIVAL OF THE QATAR-TÜRKİYE NATURAL GAS PIPELINE PROJECT

avim.org.tr

https://www.ft.com/content/880664d8-e110-4760-8b00-aa3141a770ff?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Turkey proposes Iraq oil pipeline extension as Hormuz crisis bites

Turkish energy minister says Iraq could transport half of its oil exports through Turkey if it extends Kirkuk pipeline to Basra

www.middleeasteye.net

Nothing is impossible if there is a will.

These may have worked in the days of artillery and infantry battles where a by-pass is needed. A pipeline is just as exposed to a missile or drone attack across its thousand mile journey as the ships are through Hormuz' 20 miles.

UAE's Fujairah terminal for oil to bypass the strait may have been helpful in the days of pirates, but a missile can reach Israel or Diego Garcia, a pipeline is not that much safer.

 

[4MikeEcho]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2043075125004665042

The biggest loser from this battle is Asia (China, India and other countries).
US had Arabs under its influence, Venezuela gone and now with SoH blocked - China is literally cut off from Iranian oil, and forced to import US crude oil.
China is effectively dependent on US for its energy needs.Let's see how they checkmate the US now.

The war is no more about Israel vs Iran, Americans have altogether different goals.

China has half of its energy not tied to oil. And like with COVID, it is not a domecracy so it can put draconian measures in place to manage.

US on the other hand will suffer the same economic impact. Nobody told this Ari dude that control of oil does not mean that US gets its oil at $$60 a barrel. Its paying the same high $140 price as rest of the world. Nobody cares who controls the oil if the economy shuts down at those prices.

 

[4MikeEcho]

US Navy to start 'blockading any and all ships' trying to enter or leave Strait of Hormuz, says Trump

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US President Donald Trump says that the US is going to start "BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz".

In a lengthy new post on Truth Social, he says that "the meeting went well, most points were agreed to, but the only point that really mattered, NUCLEAR, was not".

He says that "at some point" an agreement on free passage will be reached, but "Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, 'There may be a mine out there somewhere,' that nobody knows about but them."

In the same post Trump also says that he's "instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran", and that the US Navy is going to start " destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits".

"No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas," he says, adding "any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL!"

"The Blockade will begin shortly," he says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4v0xm9y0kt?post=asset:a69603b8-0d50-4cb1-a975-56879de002e9#post

Last week we threatened to wipe them off the map if they didn't open the straits.
Now we will do their job for them so they can divert their military resources elsewhere...

I am always amazed by the 5D chess of this administration.

I suppose this si why the term 'if you can't beat them, join them' was invented

 

[4MikeEcho]

i thought the saudis were blaming the pakistanis for not intervening under the mutal defence agreement when iran was bombing them?

That agreement was put in to protect Saudi Arabia against an attack, and defensive in nature (it was a mutual defense treaty). But when Saudi Arabia became the launching pad for the US attack, that option came off the table

 

[4MikeEcho]

I think you are making a big assumption that this administration is as well informed as the neo-con Bush one was where you have competent people understanding the full scope of what they are doing and guide their actions.

Not only does Trump from his vantage point doesn't understand but his advisers don't have the strategic insight to do so. They are all chosen for loyalty. He should have picked smarter people.

Case in point: he put his weight behind the Hungarian leader for last 2 years. And this week JD went to Hungary to help Orban. Orban lost. Unless it was a guaranteed landslide victory, why associate your brand with a defeat. And thats what happened.

My point is I don't belive there is as much common sense awareness to guide a lot of the policy decisions as we think WH would have

 

[contricusc]

Case in point: he put his weight behind the Hungarian leader for last 2 years. And this week JD went to Hungary to help Orban. Orban lost. Unless it was a guaranteed landslide victory, why associate your brand with a defeat. And thats what happened.

Trump’s endorsement is toxic in Europe now. Having Trump’s support is a sure way to lose the elections. After his hatred for Ukraine and Greenland threats, Europe is mostly anti-Trump. Add the war in Iran, and his support in Europe is low even in far-right circles.

 

[Huelague]

Trump’s endorsement is toxic in Europe now. Having Trump’s support is a sure way to lose the elections. After his hatred for Ukraine and Greenland threats, Europe is mostly anti-Trump. Add the war in Iran, and his support in Europe is low even in far-right circles.

Thats why Urban lost the election.

 

[UkroTurk]

1. Israel wants all gulf oil and gas to flow through their land via pipelines to Cyprus and Greece to the rest of Europe bypassing Türkiye.That is why BlackRock president visited RTE.
2. US wants Iran oil to stop flowing. Who buys most of it? China. China's second largest oil supplier was Venezüella.
3. Türkiye and Qatar want the oil and gas to come via Saudi, Jordan and Syria to Türkiye.

We will see who will win this war of oil in the days to come.

Due to war, now all Muslim countries welcome the new pipeline through Israel.
Thank you Iran , without your actions, any president of Muslim countries would not be able to justify the new pipeline. İran saved our presidents while Israel killing civilians in Gazza.

 

[4MikeEcho]

Its a pipeline : a 1000 mile desert pipeline is just as easy to destroy as a ship going through a 20 mile waterway. That pipeline is not the answer given Haifa is a well attacked target and all 1,000 miles of metal piping can be blown up just in one place.

It is better for these countries to reach some agreement. The alternate pipeline method will not answer anything. Its not the 1950s where infantry and artillery have to come occupy and the pipeline is out of reach

 

[Iskander]

US Central Command announced that the United States will begin a naval blockade of all vessels entering or leaving Iranian ports on April 13 at 10:00 a.m. ET.

Continuation of the bombing is unlikely due to the risk of further destabilization of the region and the US president's reluctance to become involved in protracted military conflicts.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Trump may also impose a temporary blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, while simultaneously pressuring allies to implement a long-term military escort mission through this seaway.

Brent crude futures for June delivery jumped 7.8% in early trading on April 13, reaching $102.60 per barrel, according to data from the London-based ICE Futures exchange.

Нефть взлетела на фоне провала переговоров США и Ирана - обновлено 03:14

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[Saithan]

1. Israel wants all gulf oil and gas to flow through their land via pipelines to Cyprus and Greece to the rest of Europe bypassing Türkiye.That is why BlackRock president visited RTE.
2. US wants Iran oil to stop flowing. Who buys most of it? China. China's second largest oil supplier was Venezüella.
3. Türkiye and Qatar want the oil and gas to come via Saudi, Jordan and Syria to Türkiye.

We will see who will win this war of oil in the days to come.

I think it's interesting that China didn't do more to protect their oil supplier, but perhaps it's because it was not important enough.

I mean China could build bases with radar and warning systems in Venzuela, if sending a Frigate of two with AAW capabilities aren't good enough. (especially considering US base in Okinawa and in the region).

 

[Lool]

At the moment there is no such physical project. But there is the will and a project in the hands of Qataris and Turks.
Discussions to revive the long-stalled Qatar-Turkey gas pipeline project have resurfaced following significant political shifts in the region, particularly after the fall of the Assad regime in Syria.
Before Syrian war, it was the main project of Turkish and Qatari sides. But the war in Syria put the brakes on it. (It is rumoured that Saudis and UAE were against this project at the time)

Recently Turkiye, Qatar and Jordan have been meeting to bring the project back in to life.
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REVIVAL OF THE QATAR-TÜRKİYE NATURAL GAS PIPELINE PROJECT

REVIVAL OF THE QATAR-TÜRKİYE NATURAL GAS PIPELINE PROJECT

avim.org.tr

https://www.ft.com/content/880664d8-e110-4760-8b00-aa3141a770ff?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Turkey proposes Iraq oil pipeline extension as Hormuz crisis bites

Turkish energy minister says Iraq could transport half of its oil exports through Turkey if it extends Kirkuk pipeline to Basra

www.middleeasteye.net

Nothing is impossible if there is a will.

All what I know is that Israel wont stay silent and watch Turkey reap all the benefits from a war that Israel started

 

[500]

The United States is rapidly losing its allies, and not just in the region. At this rate, by the end of Trump's presidency, America will have only one ally left in the entire world: Israel. Tel Aviv has already proposed to Washington that it move all American military bases from Arab countries to Israel.
In my opinion, the trend is such that the United States will have to leave the Middle East. For America, this is simply a loss of influence, but for Israel, it is very dangerous.
Do the Israelis understand this? Of course they do. But the people in power there now are radicals, religious radicals at that, just like in Iran.
Is it really so difficult to understand that, while in conflict with all neighboring Arab countries, it is unreasonable to fight a non-Arab country located 1,000 kilometers away—for example, Iran? It's impossible! Even with the most powerful country in the world as an ally, which is located 10,000 kilometers from the theater of operations. But these guys have gone so far in their madness that they're even threatening Türkiye.
This, of course, is dangerous, first and foremost for Israel itself.

But Trump can wander around the region a little longer, and when he gets tired of it all, he'll retreat beyond his beautiful ocean.
And then what?

Which ally did US lose so far? I don't see any. All Arab countries are interested in weakening Iran, they just afraid to say that openly.

 

[500]

It's also directly piracy. Stopping and then boarding 3rd party neutral ships who are not related to the conflict at hand is piracy.

Piracy is what Iran is doing. Blockade is 100% legal method of warfare.

So,an admission to loss and trying what exactly?
Another big blamage(ridiculed)?

How its admission to loss?

How is blockading the strait going to help if thats the whole problem and why the oil crisis is happening? lol

Iran depends on Hormuz much more than anyone else. Ironically the biggest losers are Iran and Qatar aka MB aka Hamas

 

[Saithan]

I think he meant finding support, so poor choice of vocabulary, but it's nothing new. We all make mistakes like that where our thoughts aren't processed to English properly because we think in Turkish and write it directly without doing proper translation

On that thought I think Oman would be a good second export harbour for the gas and oil. even if it's a bit smaller output.

 

[Saithan]

This was shared on twitter, and shows that Iran has many processing plants located close to border with Iraq.

I wonder why Iran hasn't made any pipelines to Pakistan, has the rivalry with Pakistan been so bad that they choose not to diversify oil and Gas distribution.

We can see that there are pipelines to Türkmenistan (border), so I imagine that there could be a chance of exporting by pipelines to Asia because Türkmenistan has a pipeline going to Xinjiang.

Central Asia–China gas pipeline - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Sanchez]

Blockade is 100% legal method of warfare

Trump declared a blockade for every ship passing through the strait no matter their original port of call. This is more than what Germans did in 1915 or 1940 against UK. It's what Houthis did in 2023-25. That was piracy. This is also piracy.

 

[Anmdt]

Trump declared a blockade for every ship passing through the strait no matter their original port of call. This is more than what Germans did in 1915 or 1940 against UK. It's what Houthis did in 2023-25. That was piracy. This is also piracy.

Nobody knows blockade better than him.

 

[TR_123456]

How its admission to loss?

What have those ships to do with Iran,they are all coming from the Arab states?
Why not just black ''Iranian ships''?
This is loser mentality.

 

[TR_123456]

Trump declared a blockade for every ship passing through the strait no matter their original port of call. This is more than what Germans did in 1915 or 1940 against UK. It's what Houthis did in 2023-25. That was piracy. This is also piracy.

How dare you call it piracy?
Its only piracy when others do it,the US can do whatever it wants,its love!!!