Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

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The overall damage is greater when they attack the arab states since they lack isreali defence density and the attacks on them have greater effect on the us.
I get it. I do. You want to destroy all American assets in the MENA region. So yes, the Persians have to do it. Still funny how since the war resumed the Israelis not been hit at all.

Is that even logical?

Do you think Israelis are sat in Tel Aviv right now sad about Arabs being hit?

Israel right now are chilling while the US bombs Iran and Iranians bomb the hell out of Arabs.

But I still cannot work out what's the end game for both sides. I don't see boots on the ground. And yet, I don't see this war ending without that option for US.

This could go on forever. Bomb Iranian bridges. they rebuild , then bomb bases in Arab lands. then have truce. rebuild and resume again.

Guess the good thing out of this war for US point of view is adapting to the reality that their bases scattered around MENA won't be of use in a war. Curious to see how they plan for this moving forward.
 

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Türkiye will chill all of this out, nothing will pull it into the war, watch and see. But know this Türkiye gets stronger while the region gets weaker.

This war is somewhat turning into a ukrainian situation. Where the invasion of Ukraine had the effect for Russia where it forced the whole of europe under the wing of the americans. The iranians are in a situation where they have to attack the arabs since their attacking them either directly or indirectly, but the worse it gets, the more it pulls those arabs under the control of the zionists. That is bad news for iran, because if the arabs are pulled to far towards the zionists, you could find them engaging in a full on war against iran.

And while all of this is happening, the key instigator isreal is left untouched.
 

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I get it. I do. You want to destroy all American assets in the MENA region. So yes, the Persians have to do it. Still funny how since the war resumed the Israelis not been hit at all.

Is that even logical?

Do you think Israelis are sat in Tel Aviv right now sad about Arabs being hit?

Israel right now are chilling while the US bombs Iran and Iranians bomb the hell out of Arabs.

But I still cannot work out what's the end game for both sides. I don't see boots on the ground. And yet, I don't see this war ending without that option for US.

This could go on forever. Bomb Iranian bridges. they rebuild , then bomb bases in Arab lands. then have truce. rebuild and resume again.

Guess the good thing out of this war for US point of view is adapting to the reality that their bases scattered around MENA won't be of use in a war. Curious to see how they plan for this moving forward.

Don't look at it from american eyes, their the useful idiots in this situation, the goyim. Just look at it from isrealis eyes. They trapped the americans in a cycle now where they will have to keep bombing iran for years to come. Thats excellent for Isreal. If this goes on for 20 years the isrealis will love it. Its basically one of their enemies being relentlessly beat down. Look at Syria where they tried to keep the civil war going on forever. It was only Turkish skill that ended that situation. And if you remember Turkiye was always threatened not to enter that war, the only nation with the means and intent to end that war.

Also keep in mind the isrealis want all oil and gas to cross pipelines into isreal, with the strights under iranian attack this becomes far more feasible.

Whats happening now is excellent for Isreal. And Turks, any war with Isreal they will hope to do the same, to get the americans to do 95% of the work.

Now the reason the iranians won't hit the isrealis, is because they want a way out and they know that hitting the isrealis will only escalate it.

What could happen if this drags on for too long, the zionists may realise the Turkish threat is growing too big. At that point they may cut a deal with Iran so that they can focus their attention on Turkiye. However, the problem they got since this recent attack the iranians will know 100% they need nuclear weapons, that means the americans/zionists cannot let up now unless they have a complete regime change. Because even if they make an agreement where iran says no nuclear weapons, 100% they will still pursue them.

Thats probably where the "disaster" may be for the anglo-american/zionist axis, they may have just created a nuclear iran and it doesnt matter how much damage they do, once they get that nuclear warhead, they can end isreal overnight.
 
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Don't look at it from american eyes, their the useful idiots in this situation, the goyim
Arabs are useful tools for the Americans and Israelis. Just like they were useful for the British 100-years back too.
Whats happening now is excellent for Isreal. And Turks, any war with Isreal they will hope to do the same, to get the americans to do 95% of the work.
Its good being a Turk now.

Just goes to show being a servant to the British and Americans makes you a target and get very little respect by the world. And today, Syria, Iraq, Iran and other MENA nations bombed by the very people they wanted to worship.
Now the reason the iranians won't hit the isrealis, is because they want a way out and they know that hitting the isrealis will only escalate it.
Iran had 50-years to prepare for this very moment. And now too scared to even escalate ?

This'll only mean they keep getting bombed non-stop.

USA and Israel are too far committed now to stop. Iran has to go, or this'll all been a waste of time in their POV.
What could happen if this drags on for too long, the zionists may realise the Turkish threat is growing too big.
I still feel we're 10-years away of uninterrupted growth to become too big. We need a lot more than KAANs to keep away this sort of threat.
They might still want to remove us from NATO to put a target on our backs. But I don't see that happening.
At that point they may cut a deal with Iran so that they can focus their attention on Turkiye.
A little too far-fetched , maybe under a new Iranian regime of some sorts.
 

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A little too far-fetched , maybe under a new Iranian regime of some sorts.

Remember once the attacks started against iran the zionist bastards started to openly declare Turkiye as the next Iran. no one in NATO said a word against it. Basically they were openly starting that Turkiye is the next military target. I think these bastards honestly believed that iran was going to be dealt with quickly. That didnt happen, then they started to backtrack on their threats, they started to soften their tone. Claiming Turkiye is a great country but its erdogan that is the problem etc. Even that absolute pig senator graham a week before he died spoke positively about Turkiye. I even think this plays into the recent engines and talks about F35 deals, they realised they are going to need more time to finish iran and to keep Turkiye away from helping Iran, they try fool us with deals.

So let me put it this way, if in 5 years they're still bombing iran they may ask themselves whether its safer to cut a deal with the iranians and turn their attention to Turkiye.

Because if you really think about it, if this situation goes on with iran for another 10 years and they havnt been able to resolve, their pretty much f'ked in terms of their designs on Turkiye. It will be far too late for them to do anything about us.
 

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I get it. I do. You want to destroy all American assets in the MENA region. So yes, the Persians have to do it. Still funny how since the war resumed the Israelis not been hit at all.

Is that even logical?

Do you think Israelis are sat in Tel Aviv right now sad about Arabs being hit?

Israel right now are chilling while the US bombs Iran and Iranians bomb the hell out of Arabs.

But I still cannot work out what's the end game for both sides. I don't see boots on the ground. And yet, I don't see this war ending without that option for US.

This could go on forever. Bomb Iranian bridges. they rebuild , then bomb bases in Arab lands. then have truce. rebuild and resume again.

Guess the good thing out of this war for US point of view is adapting to the reality that their bases scattered around MENA won't be of use in a war. Curious to see how they plan for this moving forward.
Matter of who blinks first.
 

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Iran's Mojtaba Khamenei said that repeated U.S. breaches of a memorandum of understanding had shown that President Trump's signature was "utterly worthless and devoid of credibility."

Khamenei said the United States should know that the Iranian nation and the "resistance front" had "unforgettable lessons" for it. https://reut.rs/4wn17g0
 

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imagine what the US public thinks about this: Govt is drawn into the war by Israel in January (or last summer technically) and they have gracefully exited out. So the war for 'helping and protecting Israel' is being fought by US and Israel all of a sudden is out of it and doesn't see Iran as an existential threat that it should be bombing.

Other than the irony behind this, its possible that Israel may have realized its not militarily strong enough to inflict any meaningful damage so at least its deciding to not be attacked.
 

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Outside launching ballistic missiles the rest of their military has been worthless.
Thats their comparative advantage against superior US weapons. If thats what they devoted their resources to, and is a key part of the doctrine, then why does it matter if the rest of the force doesn't show up.

Thats like saying the US Army and Marines have been worthless to this point.
 

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imagine what the US public thinks about this: Govt is drawn into the war by Israel in January (or last summer technically) and they have gracefully exited out. So the war for 'helping and protecting Israel' is being fought by US and Israel all of a sudden is out of it and doesn't see Iran as an existential threat that it should be bombing.

Other than the irony behind this, its possible that Israel may have realized its not militarily strong enough to inflict any meaningful damage so at least its deciding to not be attacked.
The US provides Israel with everything. It cannot survive on it's own.
 

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Footage shows Iranian missile strikes on the U.S. Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan on the night of July 17–18. The video was filmed by U.S. military personnel. The strikes resulted in the deaths of two American soldiers, with one missing and four wounded. According to The New York Times, the Iranian strikes on U.S. air bases in Jordan damaged 21 Black Hawk helicopters.

 

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Thats their comparative advantage against superior US weapons. If thats what they devoted their resources to, and is a key part of the doctrine, then why does it matter if the rest of the force doesn't show up.

Thats like saying the US Army and Marines have been worthless to this point.

The whole reason they find themselves trapped in a corner and being directly bombed by the USA is precisely because their conventional army is near worthless. The fact the American conventional forces are so strong is the reason they can cross half the globe and bomb the shit out of iran directly, while iran cannot touch the USA directly.

The problem with not having a real army is that any force they projected outside of the nation, which kept that nation from directly being bombed was easily defeated. Syria is an example of this. After the Iranians lost Syria, the doors opened to getting directly bombed by Isreal. Not to mention things like the pager incident.

Now the problem with this missile strategy is that it has one play, that play is to create enough cost in the hope that the americans think its not worth it to continue. It has no other real strategy.

The reason Turkiye today is not being directly bombed is because when her conventional forces were called into action they were able to win. Cyprus is an example, Libya is an example, Syria is an example. The doctrines developed by Turkiye were also used by Azerbaijan to defeat Armenia, Armenia was an ally of Iran but because Iranian conventional forces and know how is dogshit, there was nothing they could do for armenia.

i'm not saying these missiles are bad, what im saying is these missiles alone is not good enough.
 

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The whole reason they find themselves trapped in a corner and being directly bombed by the USA is precisely because their conventional army is near worthless. The fact the American conventional forces are so strong is the reason they can cross half the globe and bomb the shit out of iran directly, while iran cannot touch the USA directly.

The problem with not having a real army is that any force they projected outside of the nation, which kept that nation from directly being bombed was easily defeated. Syria is an example of this. After the Iranians lost Syria, the doors opened to getting directly bombed by Isreal. Not to mention things like the pager incident.

Now the problem with this missile strategy is that it has one play, that play is to create enough cost in the hope that the americans think its not worth it to continue. It has no other real strategy.

The reason Turkiye today is not being directly bombed is because when her conventional forces were called into action they were able to win. Cyprus is an example, Libya is an example, Syria is an example. The doctrines developed by Turkiye were also used by Azerbaijan to defeat Armenia, Armenia was an ally of Iran but because Iranian conventional forces and know how is dogshit, there was nothing they could do for armenia.

i'm not saying these missiles are bad, what im saying is these missiles alone is not good enough.
This is why the world cannot take Iran seriously.

People think USA just randomly started bullying Iran for no reason at all.

yet, Iran has been calling for the destruction of USA and allies for over 50-years. They even convinced their population that Iran would wipe Israel off the map too.

I am no fan of USA. But, who in their right mind think that's a good idea to provoke such a major superpower humanity has ever seen?

Would Iran even boast such nonsense for decades if they didn't have so much natural resources to fall back on when sanctioned? Doubt it.

50-years no Air Force no Navy just some cheap drones and missiles(albeit quiet effective)

And what do we see today? Iran scared to escalate.

You'd think after having your school children blown into pieces that you reserve the right to escalate. but no. These Mullahs are only brave against trying to bully Azerbaijan and useless Arab kingdoms.
 

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The whole reason they find themselves trapped in a corner and being directly bombed by the USA is precisely because their conventional army is near worthless. The fact the American conventional forces are so strong is the reason they can cross half the globe and bomb the shit out of iran directly, while iran cannot touch the USA directly.

The problem with not having a real army is that any force they projected outside of the nation, which kept that nation from directly being bombed was easily defeated. Syria is an example of this. After the Iranians lost Syria, the doors opened to getting directly bombed by Isreal. Not to mention things like the pager incident.

Now the problem with this missile strategy is that it has one play, that play is to create enough cost in the hope that the americans think its not worth it to continue. It has no other real strategy.

The reason Turkiye today is not being directly bombed is because when her conventional forces were called into action they were able to win. Cyprus is an example, Libya is an example, Syria is an example. The doctrines developed by Turkiye were also used by Azerbaijan to defeat Armenia, Armenia was an ally of Iran but because Iranian conventional forces and know how is dogshit, there was nothing they could do for armenia.

i'm not saying these missiles are bad, what im saying is these missiles alone is not good enough.
These missiles are good enough to project power and inflict disporportionate pain where the war is now an issue not localized to the gulf but everybody feels the pain.

The best Army in the world would have only made it as far as Kuwait (via Iraq). It would have not inflicted pain on the Gulf countries or Israel.

Btw, Iraq for all its might and strength of its Republican guard got decimated.

From a military standpoint, they were good to have prioritized their investment in missiles/drones vs. aircraft that cost a lot of money/training, then cost $30K an hour to fly, and would have been easily chewed up as offensive weapons , either as sitting ducks on the ground, or to air defenses in Israel and Gulf countries.

It is also true that it may not have been military genius that led to this sort of investment/focus, and may have been out of pure desperation as they didn't have the means or access to the latest aircraft. Whatever the reason, they are where they are now and its worked out better for them than it did for Iraqis who were never able to power project and got eaten up by an air campaign

The Gulf countries still believe this is WWI: putting a pipeline to Yanbu or to Fujeirah. Iranians don't have to put artillery 20 miles away from these two alternates to threaten them. If Iran weapons can reach Jordan they can reach Yanbu and if they can go south west of Hormuz, they can go south east of Hormuz to Fujeirah. My point is its a fools errand that the Gulf countries think they can by pass Hormuz.
 

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This is why the world cannot take Iran seriously.

People think USA just randomly started bullying Iran for no reason at all.

yet, Iran has been calling for the destruction of USA and allies for over 50-years. They even convinced their population that Iran would wipe Israel off the map too.

I am no fan of USA. But, who in their right mind think that's a good idea to provoke such a major superpower humanity has ever seen?

Would Iran even boast such nonsense for decades if they didn't have so much natural resources to fall back on when sanctioned? Doubt it.

50-years no Air Force no Navy just some cheap drones and missiles(albeit quiet effective)

And what do we see today? Iran scared to escalate.

You'd think after having your school children blown into pieces that you reserve the right to escalate. but no. These Mullahs are only brave against trying to bully Azerbaijan and useless Arab kingdoms.
what are you smoking: they tore up the MoU. Attacked all the way in Jordan. And I am sure if Israel enters, they will get retaliation.

I am not a fan of IRGC, but I don't think they have fear to escalate. If they had fear to escalate, they should not have attacked the ships trying to transit via Southern Hormuz.

Btw, N. Korea has nuclear weapons and always testing its missiles. They are a threat to the US. Its a false comment that for the last decade Iranians have been calling for US destruction.

If that is the yardstick then US should go after N. Korea that has weapons for use against the US, but just doesn't talk about it
 

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