TR Land Vehicle Programs

[TheInsider]

I have been a defender of the BMC Altay story and not Ethem Sancak in person.

It is a known fact that drones are not meant to be used in an offensive manner which is part of Minsk agreements. The possibility of drones being used in such manner was always there but it was not foreseen as an imminent outcome. Russia was not meaning an invasion as Putin put it but turned out that they did mean an invasion. In the same manner as drones were not meant to be used in an offensive capacity but Turns out it was the only way to counter Putin's unintended invasion.

Yeah, we know you were like personal aide of Ethem. We were well aware of how drones will be utilized from day one and we sold them despite knowing that.

 

[Lool]

It seems like Ethem Sancak is butthurt. He talked to some Russian TV and said Turkiye's NATO membership is a shame of the past and we didn't know that(as if he is speaking for Turkiye or Baykar company) Bayraktar drones would be used in such a manner.

Erdoğan’ın gözdesi iş adamı Ethem Sancak Moskova’da Rusları yalayıp yuttu. Bayraktar SİHA’ların böyle kullanılacağını bilmiyorduk. Ukrayna’yı sa

Rusya’yı ziyaret eden iktidara yakın iş adamı Ethem Sancak, Rus kanalında yaptığı açıklamada; Bayraktar SİHA’ların Ukrayna’da böyle kullanılacağını bilmiyorduk. Rusya ile müttefikiz. S-500 yapacağız, uzaya çıkacağız” dedi…

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Honestly, he deserves it
Erdo trusted him and gave him so many privileges to the point that it included a free massive plot of land just to build the Altay and at the end, he failed!
You did say b4 that Erdo was extremely pissed at him to the point that he even shouted at him yet I still dont understand why he wasnt jailed and was left to roam out instead

And why is he shitting on Turkish drones? I feel that some1 is purposefully making him say that to further jeopardise relations with Russia

 

[Zafer]

Yeah, we know you were like personal aide of Ethem. We were well aware of how drones will be utilized from day one and we sold them despite knowing that.

I will be like a personal aide to anyone who carries the story of the Turkish defence industry forward unlike yourself who sits on the fence and throws stones at our industrial heros. Ekrem Sancak's BMC is making the Turkish tank engine and you have stood against him full power all along. There are some who appreciate your efforts but they are not Turks.

 

[Lool]

I will be like a personal aide to anyone who carries the story of the Turkish defence industry forward unlike yourself who sits on the fence and throws stones at our industrial heros. Ekrem Sancak's BMC is making the Turkish tank engine and you have stood against him full power all along. There are some who appreciate your efforts but they are not Turks.

Come on man!
Lets be honest here, Ekrem Sancak screwed BMC over and Betrayed Erdo's trust
Erdogan fullfilled Ekrem's each and every demand, and in return, Erdo got betrayed when Ekrem said that he couldnt do the bloody fqing tank 1 year away from its release date.

I respect Erdo but you need to be critical of him and his supporters whenever needed or else you would be just a blind idiot that is more of a demerit to the community rather than an effective member

and tbh Iam not against favouritisim as well. For example, Erdo gave extreme favouritism to Baykar. However, unlike Ethem Sancak, Baykar delivers what is asked from him within the time frame with specs and capabilities that are way better than what is asked for

 

[Khagan1923]

Why shouldn't I believe the traitor named Ethem didn't sabotage the most strategic project of the Land Forces on purpose? One sabotaged it with his corruption and the other most likely on purpose as an asset for other countries.

Air Force= TF-X
Navy= TF-2000, Milden
Land Forces= Altay

One of these has been sabotaged to the ground by various people, let us hope they don't do the same to the others. Not like they have much time left to actual to do so.

 

[Manomed]

Come on man!
Lets be honest here, Ekrem Sancak screwed BMC over and Betrayed Erdo's trust
Erdogan fullfilled Ekrem's each and every demand, and in return, Erdo got betrayed when Ekrem said that he couldnt do the bloody fqing tank 1 year away from its release date.

I respect Erdo but you need to be critical of him and his supporters whenever needed or else you would be just a blind idiot that is more of a demerit to the community rather than an effective member

and tbh Iam not against favouritisim as well. For example, Erdo gave extreme favouritism to Baykar. However, unlike Ethem Sancak, Baykar delivers what is asked from him within the time frame with specs and capabilities that are way better than what is asked for

zafer was against altay 1 year ago he said we should have more drones not tanks tanks are obsolete he said. He has a very good working head

 

[Zafer]

Come on man!
Lets be honest here, Ekrem Sancak screwed BMC over and Betrayed Erdo's trust
Erdogan fullfilled Ekrem's each and every demand, and in return, Erdo got betrayed when Ekrem said that he couldnt do the bloody fqing tank 1 year away from its release date.

I respect Erdo but you need to be critical of him and his supporters whenever needed or else you would be just a blind idiot that is more of a demerit to the community rather than an effective member

and tbh Iam not against favouritisim as well. For example, Erdo gave extreme favouritism to Baykar. However, unlike Ethem Sancak, Baykar delivers what is asked from him within the time frame with specs and capabilities that are way better than what is asked for

You are not being realistic, and you are shitting even when you claim to do justice.
When there is no engine there is no tank.
You need to make the engine before you can make the tank.

If you don't understand this much there is no reasoning with you, and the bunch.

 

[TheInsider]

I will be like a personal aide to anyone who carries the story of the Turkish defence industry forward unlike yourself who sits on the fence and throws stones at our industrial heros. Ekrem Sancak's BMC is making the Turkish tank engine and you have stood against him full power all along. There are some who appreciate your efforts but they are not Turks.

If Tayyip recalls Ethem you will be the first one to praise the decision.

 

[Zafer]

I will b

If Tayyip recalls Ethem you will be the first one to praise the decision.

I will be rooting for whoever takes the industry to new heights.

 

[Hexciter]

Meanwhile in Libya

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Meanwhile in Libya View attachment 40824

I love the Mad Max-esque look on the Kirpi

 

[Abdelaziz]

Meanwhile in Libya View attachment 40824

Turkey urgently need modern IFV either wheeled or tracked

 

[comolokko]

Turkey urgently need modern IFV either wheeled or tracked

these are examples. we have many types of infantry fighting vehicles.

 

[Abdelaziz]

these are examples. we have many types of infantry fighting vehicles.

Many of those are not ifv .. many still in prototype phase .. the rest are old .. i know there is some products of defence companies in turkey that could fit well as IFV .. such as otokar arma and tulpar .. bmc altug .. kaplan NG and pars .. but no purchases were made yet .. the modern ifv imo have better armours .. modern situational awareness and fire control system .. may be APS .. at least 35 mm cannon

 

[Manomed]

Many of those are not ifv .. many still in prototype phase .. the rest are old .. i know there is some products of defence companies in turkey that could fit well as IFV .. such as otokar arma and tulpar .. bmc altug .. kaplan NG and pars .. but no purchases were made yet .. the modern ifv imo have better armours .. modern situational awareness and fire control system .. may be APS .. at least 35 mm cannon

Modernized acv-15 do have APS against atgms but Its still old and garbage

 

[Abdelaziz]

Modernized acv-15 do have APS against atgms but Its still old and garbage

They could be a stop gap ... The SSB imo delaying the purchase till they have local power groups

 

[Umigami]

Kaplan MT test in Indonesia.

 

[Manomed]

What happened to KORHAN that aselsan made we can't get these because of bmc I guess

also this shit looks so bad

 

[Tornadoss]

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What happened to KORHAN that aselsan made we can't get these because of bmc I guess

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also this shit looks so bad

Did you meant, Korhan as Wheeled IFV? If so AFAIK Korhan is just turret and additional electronic systems to be put on any Wheeled IFV, vehicle not included.

 

[Manomed]

Did you meant, Korhan as Wheeled IFV? If so AFAIK Korhan is just turret and additional electronic systems to be put on any Wheeled IFV, vehicle not included.

IFV