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Weak Turkish diplomacy and lack of cojones to act against the will of Russia and USA in Syria, Biden doesn't want to meet you but assures terrorists that they will not abandon them.
 

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Weak Turkish diplomacy and lack of cojones to act against the will of Russia and USA in Syria, Biden doesn't want to meet you but assures terrorists that they will not abandon them.
No worlds diplomacy could change usa position in syria, to much benefits for them. This one is not on Turkey. For wise people this is one more proof that you can only rally on yourself and that you were always hidden threat and advesary for west and east most prominent powers. Naive people tough thinks that we live in post historic period and that you can create so called common interest alliances, never was and never will be like that for idenpendent countries.
 
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No word about Assad... Killing him would probably make the boulder roll in dangerous directions. But if Assad and Iran aren't even in the equation anymore it means Iran isn't doing enough.
 

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No press release, no statements after meeting, after one day of calmness and no firing, russian air raids resumed as well as trukish/rebel artillery shelling and more convoys entering from Turkey to rebel areas as well as sna mobilisation.
Battle it is?
 

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No word about Assad... Killing him would probably make the boulder roll in dangerous directions. But if Assad and Iran aren't even in the equation anymore it means Iran isn't doing enough.

Assad is a proxy nothing else but just a mere puppet.
 

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Assad is a proxy nothing else but just a mere puppet.
Assad is not the perfect proxy. He gone against the will of Russia many times and Russian soldiers even had to intervene directly so SAA don't do stupid shit. If somebody kills Assad Suhail Al-Hassan will come to power and this is worse than Assad.

My take on the situation is the confrontation of Russia and Iran regarding some areas and course of action so that reflects directly in the actions of Assad himself. He have to balance very carefully between these two powers because if even one of them cut their support or take their own proactive approach in Syrian politics his future is dark and will probably have to run out of Syria to preserve his life. Assad is not dumb at all and the fact that he is still the head of the State proves it. Keeping the balance is also very difficult task and he manages to do it successfully till that point.
 

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Assad is not the perfect proxy. He gone against the will of Russia many times and Russian soldiers even had to intervene directly so SAA don't do stupid shit. If somebody kills Assad Suhail Al-Hassan will come to power and this is worse than Assad.

My take on the situation is the confrontation of Russia and Iran regarding some areas and course of action so that reflects directly in the actions of Assad himself. He have to balance very carefully between these two powers because if even one of them cut their support or take their own proactive approach in Syrian politics his future is dark and will probably have to run out of Syria to preserve his life. Assad is not dumb at all and the fact that he is still the head of the State proves it. Keeping the balance is also very difficult task and he manages to do it successfully till that point.

Russia and Iran have conflicting ambitions.
 

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Assad is not the perfect proxy. He gone against the will of Russia many times and Russian soldiers even had to intervene directly so SAA don't do stupid shit. If somebody kills Assad Suhail Al-Hassan will come to power and this is worse than Assad.

My take on the situation is the confrontation of Russia and Iran regarding some areas and course of action so that reflects directly in the actions of Assad himself. He have to balance very carefully between these two powers because if even one of them cut their support or take their own proactive approach in Syrian politics his future is dark and will probably have to run out of Syria to preserve his life. Assad is not dumb at all and the fact that he is still the head of the State proves it. Keeping the balance is also very difficult task and he manages to do it successfully till that point.
In that case neither Russia or Iran wants Assad and Turkey to mend any relation. But perhaps I am wrong seeing as I heard that Syrian FM asked refugees to come back and foreign forces from Turkey and US leave Syria.

That call back would require quite some confidence building measures.
 

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No press release, no statements after meeting, after one day of calmness and no firing, russian air raids resumed as well as trukish/rebel artillery shelling and more convoys entering from Turkey to rebel areas as well as sna mobilisation.
Battle it is?

It seems the meeting gave no results for the Syrian theatre.
 

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Deadlocked status quo unless Russia tries something stupid.

We are talking about a bear.

Turkey is at least relatively happy with the status quo, the problem is the Russian airstrikes.
Unfortunately whatever agression Russia will do will not be something stupid because Turkey showed its reluctance to respond back. Russia will consider this a weakness and carry the agressions to another level.
 

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Turkey is at least relatively happy with the status quo, the problem is the Russian airstrikes.
Unfortunately whatever agression Russia will do will not be something stupid because Turkey showed its reluctance to respond back. Russia will consider this a weakness and carry the agressions to another level.

Its political will and how Erdogan lacks balls.

Right now the ball is in putins court.

Also USA and Russia are working together in Syria so any attempt by Turkey gets blocked.
 

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Turkey is at least relatively happy with the status quo, the problem is the Russian airstrikes.
Unfortunately whatever agression Russia will do will not be something stupid because Turkey showed its reluctance to respond back. Russia will consider this a weakness and carry the agressions to another level.

Turkey leaving her position in syria makes no sense whatsoever for Turkey. Because all it means is the danger comes closer to Turkey.
 
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Out of the banana republics there is no other country in the world that would accept such a situation in its backyard. Even Syrians are protesting against the attacks on our soldiers and their martyrdom but the negligence showed by our politicians is just out of this world.

IEDs, ATGMs, rocket attacks, suicide bombings, tunnel bombings and the response is mainly artillery fire at empty positions and fields. Our politicians were talking about buffer zones, cleaning areas from terrorists and relocating refugees to their homeland by ensuring the security there. Instead our soldiers are sent to death without any support and ground is given instead of taken.

This is a total fail resulted by lack of respect for the Turkish State and Nation and their sacred defenders the Turkish Armed Forces. What is the end objective, what should be done and how we want to end it are questions that nobody can answer you. Every week martyrs and injured and nobody cares. As Mr. Efendime Soyleyim would say "With the understanding of 'If I die, I die a martyr. If I return, I return a Ghazi' our fight against terrorists is continuing" while the fight of the Turkish Armed Forces is continuing and their real fight will be with their conscience if they have one.

A tunnel of 2.500m is created by the terrorists to a Turkish military base around Manbij. They blow up the explosives 70m out of the military base and we give 1 martyr. The affected area by the blast is 350 m². Erdogan was saying that YPG is no longer present in Manbij but guess what!?!? YPG is sharing a video showing how they are blowing our soldiers to pieces under Russian protection.

Mr. Efendime Soyleyim together with the Chief of General Staff, Land Forces Commander are now in Hatay to meet with the commanders of the units tasked at the border on the Turkish side and also in Syria. They will be doing a meeting in which they will evaluate the situation... What the f*ck are you going to evaluate?!? Prepare the machines and give the order so our brothers bring hell to the enemy! Evaluation after evaluation and the situation is still the same. You are walking, talking while our brothers are lying in the cold ground leaving behind their beautiful women, children, friends! Guess what Mr. Efendime Soyleyim is saying. He is saying that the blood of our martyrs was avenged and will be avenged. This is some kind of a bad joke that I really can't understand. Better enter your office and don't show up anywhere, don't talk about vengeance so people keep their displays in one piece.

Infantry Sergeant Mucahit SINIRTEPE, Infantry Sergeant Ramazan DEMIR. Look at their faces! Condolences after condolences. Condolences are the best you can do. Your worth is not as much as even one of their hairs. May Allah accept their martyrdom!

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5 years ago, 2 of our soldiers burned alive by ISIS and our government turned blind-eye. They simply don't care.
 
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Lol he did rabia symbol when returning back from russia He cares more about some arabs than Its his people amazing
 

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Lol he did rabia symbol when returning back from russia He cares more about some arabs than Its his people amazing
Not really
Erdo was the one who made this symbol before even the muslim brotherhood came to power
The muslim brotherhood just copied his symbol, when they came to power, to rally the ppl towards them since Erdo's popularity at that moment were at an all time high so they wanted to show that The muslim brotherhood will make Egypt rise to the top rankings economically and will protect the rights of muslims worldwide; it was a political move, that is all

In fact, I even heard rumors that the grey wolves adopted such symbol for a time as well. However, I have no proof so it is just rumors
 
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Not really
Erdo was the one who made this symbol before even the muslim brotherhood came to power
The muslim brotherhood just copied his symbol, when they came to power, to rally the ppl towards them since Erdo's popularity at that moment were at an all time high so they wanted to show that The muslim brotherhood will make Egypt rise to the top rankings economically and will protect the rights of muslims worldwide; it was a political move, that is all

In fact, I even heard rumors that the grey wolves adopted such symbol for a time as well. However, I have no proof so it is just rumors
Grey wolves you mean non turkish proto akp supporters that act like islamists? My friend I have some bad news for you they aren't grey wolves
 

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