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The unmanned marine vehicle, which is not identified as belonging to which country, was found on the Black Sea coast. Guess what name?


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The unmanned marine vehicle, which is not identified as belonging to which country, was found on the Black Sea coast. Guess what name?

It has already been identified as a USV produced by a yank company

 

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The unmanned marine vehicle, which is not identified as belonging to which country, was found on the Black Sea coast. Guess what name?


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Is it the most perfect seakeaping shape for a ship?
 

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New keels can be laid without waiting for the first ship's tests I guess as the hull will have been tested at early stages in water.
 

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New keels can be laid without waiting for the first ship's tests I guess as the hull will have been tested at early stages in water.
Not by the navy shipyard, no. And you don't really expect the navy to order 3 ships to the consortium when the first one is only halfway into construction?
 

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Not by the navy shipyard, no. And you don't really expect the navy to order 3 ships to the consortium when the first one is only halfway into construction?
They can't take too long, that would be a failure by tself to take 4 years to see that the design is working.
 

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They can't take too long, that would be a failure by tself to take 4 years to see that the design is working.
Or you can have not working ships you paid a billion each. Surely timeframe will shorten once the first ship takes shape and others will take less time to incur into service.

But the idea that we are just building ships at a breakneck speed and this is just a slow down of what's usually expected is wrong. We are building many ships because we have many shipyards. We are not particularly building them fast. Follow on Istifs are taking 3+ years from ordering to incurring. 5 years for a destroyer is normal. A single Tepe has "more radars" than what, 5 Istifs combined?

Since Goeben itself, we never operated a ship of this caliber contemporarily. It's new to us. Our most potent active use AA missile is still SM-1MR. We are going to handle theater air defence and ABM with Tepe Class. There are many mistakes to make and then correct; there's a whole EW suite that is to be built and a radar suite to be confirmed in real world. Single Tepe carries 96 VLS, that's 12 MIDLAS 8-cell VLS. We didn't yet build and deliver 12 MIDLAS.

To be honest looking at all this, it just makes sense some sense to get a foreign design if we can build and incur it in 3 years as a stopgap.
 

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Or you can have not working ships you paid a billion each. Surely timeframe will shorten once the first ship takes shape and others will take less time to incur into service.

But the idea that we are just building ships at a breakneck speed and this is just a slow down of what's usually expected is wrong. We are building many ships because we have many shipyards. We are not particularly building them fast. Follow on Istifs are taking 3+ years from ordering to incurring. 5 years for a destroyer is normal. A single Tepe has "more radars" than what, 5 Istifs combined?

Since Goeben itself, we never operated a ship of this caliber contemporarily. It's new to us. Our most potent active use AA missile is still SM-1MR. We are going to handle theater air defence and ABM with Tepe Class. There are many mistakes to make and then correct; there's a whole EW suite that is to be built and a radar suite to be confirmed in real world. Single Tepe carries 96 VLS, that's 12 MIDLAS 8-cell VLS. We didn't yet build and deliver 12 MIDLAS.

To be honest looking at all this, it just makes sense some sense to get a foreign design if we can build and incur it in 3 years as a stopgap.
That is probably because the Navy shipbuilding is not headed by a high profile figure like TAI had with Mr Temel Kotil who can buy fast computers to facilitate design and all. Leadership matters in large projects.
 

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That is probably because the Navy shipbuilding is not headed by a high profile figure like TAI had with Mr Temel Kotil who can buy fast computers to facilitate design and all. Leadership matters in large projects.
Kotil failed to deliver any projects in time, his tenure was fraught with multiple back to back delays and failed promises.

TF-2000 "design" is underway for the last 15 years already. This is not a question of time or design. Tepe Class is just as complex as Kaan, even more so actually.
 

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Kotil failed to deliver any projects in time, his tenure was fraught with multiple back to back delays and failed promises.

TF-2000 "design" is underway for the last 15 years already. This is not a question of time or design. Tepe Class is just as complex as Kaan, even more so actually.
Temel Kotil calls GM and threatens them to get the engine he wanted, having delays is no indication to the amount of effort he put into his work. If the job is complicated you employ the people who can do complicated jobs faster. But where is a person we can ask if the job is going well or not in the case of the Tepe the first.
 
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