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«Baku destroys the colonial empire of France»

Excessively active French support for Armenia could cost Paris the loss of control over a number of overseas territories. As a response, Baku intensified its work with representatives of the indigenous peoples of the Pacific Islands, still belonging to the Fifth Republic
A delegation of deputies from Polynesia arrived in Baku today. According to Le Figaro, the main topic of negotiations between Azerbaijan and representatives of the distant archipelago was the decolonization of French Polynesia. In response to all claims from Paris, Baku demands that the rhetoric about intervention be stopped. Azerbaijan emphasizes that the initiator of the visit is not the government, but the parliament of the republic.
«Unlike France, our support is based on international law, as well as on decisions and resolutions of the UN and the Non-Aligned Movement».

A little over a month ago, a delegation from New Caledonia came to Baku. During the negotiations, an agreement on cooperation at the parliamentary level was concluded. Soon after this visit, serious unrest broke out in the French colony, and Paris He accused Azerbaijan is involved in their organization. However, Azerbaijani leader Ilham Aliyev pointed out to the European colonialist his mistakes in foreign affairs. policy.
«France, which cannot abandon its colonial policy, does not respect the desire for freedom and the rights of peoples living outside Europe, in overseas communities and in territories in the Pacific, Indian and Atlantic oceans, and makes every effort to prevent the realization of these aspirations»- responded the President of Azerbaijan.
According to French media, stability in other overseas territories of France
may also be under threat.

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«Elected officials from Polynesia received in Azerbaijan to prepare the “decolonization” of French territory»

 
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The Natives of New Caledonia want France out but the French Settlers want France to stay.

I heard there used to be a community of Algerians that lived in New Caledonia. A lot of them are exiles and sent to New Caledonia as convicts for defying French colonial rule in Algeria.
they're still there but are a minority of the population, and from my understanding they're siding with the natives
 

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After Armenia, France was also defeated :)

Announcing the suspension of the "reforms" that limit the national rights of the Kanakis in New Caledonia, Monsieur Macron admitted that France actually lost to the Kanakis and Azerbaijan, who supported them.

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New Caledonia being so far away from the France, in Polynesia non the less, I think that country should have it's own governance and parliament. Defacto independent country.

If France wants to keep it in it's hemisphere then they should do like Denmark did with Greenland. keep them in the "monarchy" but let them rule themselves.

Greenland knows that if they sever their ties with Denmark they'll just be taken over by the big mofo countries because their population is below 100k and they have such a huge mass of land.

in short they'll be devoured.

New Caledonians aren't stupid, and know that without a big brother they'll be devoured as well. Keep what you can, but keep them at arms length.
 

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Here is whats going to happen. And it always goes this way. Pro independence leaders get arrested and locked away. Pro independence ppl don’t have anymore leaders and then French establishes it’s rule over the colony and the law that wasn’t passed will be passed.
 

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Here is whats going to happen. And it always goes this way. Pro independence leaders get arrested and locked away. Pro independence ppl don’t have anymore leaders and then French establishes it’s rule over the colony and the law that wasn’t passed will be passed.
That just can't happen. We need to send "aid" to them.
 

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This is perfect. Moving the pro independence people to France for detention IS exactly what they did during their colonial rule, and are still attempting to because their mindset is that of colonial power.

This is in fact beyond perfect and need to be capitalized on with support, financial and with food and supplies, so they can keep their dissatisfaction going on for as long as it's needed.

France just made a big blunder, let's hop they continue doing so. Trial in France would definitely be a crowning glory and proof of what they're trying to hide.
 

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I mean, we know that majority of Caledonian wants to stay with France. In end this is not much significant other than some entertainment.
 

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I mean we know that majority of Caledonian wants to stay with France. In end this is not much significant other than some entertainment.
As much as scotland and Crimea wants to stay with their respective partner UK and Russia….
 

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Police operation kills two men in New Caledonia as fresh violence rocks French overseas territories​

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Security forces in New Caledonia.

Fresh violence has rocked France's overseas territories as security forces killed two men in New Caledonia. (AFP: Delphine Mayeur)

In short:​

Two men in New Caledonia were killed in an overnight security operation, while officials ordered a curfew after rioting in Martinique.
A public prosecutor said New Caledonia's security forces on an observation mission fired two shots after being threatened by armed individuals.

What's next?​

A curfew has been imposed in the French Caribbean island of Martinique and will remain in place until at least September 23.
abc.net.au/news/fresh-violence-rocks-french-overseas-territories/104374770

French authorities have grappled with a new spike in violence in the country's overseas territories with security forces killing two men in New Caledonia and officials ordering a curfew after rioting in Martinique.

The fresh trouble comes at a sensitive time for France, where new Prime Minister Michel Barnier is struggling to form a government following snap parliamentary elections and has warned of a "very serious" financial situation.

During an overnight security operation in New Caledonia, two men were killed south of the capital Noumea, the public prosecutor said on Thursday, taking the death toll to 13 after months of unrest in the French Pacific territory.

'It doesn't make sense': French ambassador dismisses idea of mediation with New Caledonia pro-independence groups​


Photo shows A woman wrapped in a green, red, blue and yellow flag of New Caledonia's independence movement.
A woman wrapped in a green, red, blue and yellow flag of New Caledonia's independence movement.

France has rejected accusations that it undermined decolonisation in New Caledonia and says it's still deciding when a Pacific delegation will be permitted to visit the territory.

Violence broke out in mid-May over Paris's plan for voting reforms that Indigenous Kanak people fear would leave them in a permanent minority, crushing their chances of winning independence.

While unrest in the South Pacific territory has ebbed since mid-July, an AFP journalist witnessed new clashes erupt between French police and civilians in Saint-Louis, a heartland of the independence movement just south of Noumea.

On Thursday, public prosecutor Yves Dupas said security forces on an observation mission fired two shots after being "directly threatened by a group of armed individuals".

The first "hit a man, aged 30, positioned as a lone gunman, in the right side of the abdomen," Mr Dupas said in a statement.
"The second shot hit a man, aged 29, in the chest."

'We are not terrorists'​

Police were looking for about a dozen people suspected of involvement in attacks on security forces.

"We're not terrorists, we're not in a state of war," said one mother in the village where the security operation was taking place.
Jimmy Naouna, a spokesperson for the pro-independence Front de Libération Nationale Kanak et Socialiste (FLNKS), said he hoped the deaths would not trigger more violence as New Caledonia approaches the symbolic date of September 24, the anniversary of the French takeover in 1853.

Australia's Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade earlier this week updated its travel advice on New Caledonia, saying demonstrations and protests may increase in the lead-up to the date, which is marked locally with the Citizenship Day public holiday.

The territory's nightly curfew, previously 10pm to 5am, will be extended to 6pm to 6am between September 21 and 24.

Earlier this year, France sent thousands of troops and police to the archipelago, which is home to about 270,000 people and located nearly 17,000 kilometres from Paris.

In violence not seen since the near-civil war of the 1980s, hundreds of people were injured and the damage was estimated at about 2.2 billion euros ($3.6 billion).

The electoral change — which requires altering the French constitution — has effectively been in limbo since President Emmanuel Macron dissolved parliament for new elections that in July produced a lower house with no clear majority.
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France has sent thousands of troops and police to New Caledonia since the unrest started in May. (AFP: Delphine Mayeur)
The road to Saint-Louis in the south of the archipelago's main island Grande Terre is closed.

For the 1,200 inhabitants of Saint-Louis, the only way in or out is by foot after presenting an ID at checkpoints.

Only emergency services and ambulances can otherwise cross into the village.

Almost all other roadblocks across New Caledonia have been lifted.

Authorities are also under pressure in the French Caribbean island of Martinique, home to about 350,000 people.

Officials ordered a curfew in several districts of Fort-de-France, the island's main city, and next-door Lamentin, after violent cost-of-living protests.

When can tourists return to New Caledonia?​


Photo shows A pristine white sand beach with palm trees and turquoise water.
A pristine white sand beach with palm trees and turquoise water.

Blessed with pristine lagoons and coral reefs, New Caledonia was hoping to attract more Australian tourists. After civil unrest struck, businesses are now thinking about survival.

The curfew, ordered on Wednesday evening, runs between 9pm to 5am and will remain in force until at least September 23.
A McDonald's restaurant was set on fire this week.

The riots follow protests that began in early September over rising prices.

The prefect of Martinique, Jean-Christophe Bouvier, said authorities had made 15 arrests.

Eleven police officers were injured by gunfire, he said, adding that three rioters also sustained injuries.
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New Caledonian independence leaders wary as France drops voting reform​

Independence leaders in New Caledonia have reacted with caution to the French government's decision to scrap a constitutional amendment on voting rights, with some fearing it's a tactical delay that sidesteps the deeper issue of the Pacific territory's political autonomy.

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People wave New Caledonia independence flags during the 171st anniversary of France's takeover of the Pacific archipelago, 24 September 2024. While the Kanak independence movement continues to demand full self-determination, many French officials still see extending voting rights as essential for democratic fairness in the territory.


People wave New Caledonia independence flags during the 171st anniversary of France's takeover of the Pacific archipelago, 24 September 2024. While the Kanak independence movement continues to demand full self-determination, many French officials still see extending voting rights as essential for democratic fairness in the territory. © Charlotte Antoine-Perron/AP

A constitutional amendment that would extend voting rights to tens of thousands of long-term French residents in New Caledonia ignited five months of violent protests – leading to multiple deaths, mass unemployment and over a billion euros in damages.

French Prime Minister Michel Barnier this week axed the plan, citing the need to restore calm. He told the National Assembly on Tuesday that "avoiding further unrest" was a priority.

He also postponed a local election scheduled for December for a year.

Barnier made no public commitment on extra funding for reconstruction and rebuilding that had been sought by the New Caledonian Congress.

Words, not action​

The decision to suspend the voting reform, which was originally proposed by President Emmanuel Macron in June, has drawn mixed reactions.

Emmanuel Tjibaou, an indigenous Kanak MP, said Barnier's speech was a “sign” that the French state was looking to end the crisis and resume political talks.

"For the moment, I have heard the words, I am waiting for action,” he told journalists.

However some loyalists in the territory were critical of the decision to drop the voting reform, while Kanaks expressed concerns it could resurface once political tensions eased.

Kanak chiefs proclaim sovereignty over New Caledonia's ancestral lands

Loyalist politician Nicolas Metzdorf told FranceInfo radio that Barnier was giving in to violence.

"Michel Barnier is taking a step backwards for democracy; it's a disagrace for the republic," he added.

Metzdorf described Barnier's speech as "completely disconnected", with no announcement of financial support despite the territory enduring the "most serious economic, social and humanitarian crisis" in its history.

“The prime minister does not grasp the gravity of the situation on the ground,” he told broadcaster Nouvelle-Calédonie la 1ère.

Ongoing divisions​

While the Kanak independence movement continues to demand full self-determination, many French officials still see extending voting rights as essential for democratic fairness in the territory.

Divisions over New Caledonia policy have exposed the deeper challenges France faces in managing its overseas territories, where local populations often feel disconnected from Paris.

Macron has remained silent on the suspension of the reform, leading to speculation that he is seeking to distance himself from the backlash.

The president had previously called the amendment a "necessary step" in modernising New Caledonia’s electoral system.

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I think it's important the the voice of independence be supported so that New Caledonia can cain freedom from the French senate/state.

Unless the French senate/state relinquish decision rights of New Caledonia, they will always just pick it up at a later date. Colonial mentality.

According to :


New Caledonia’s main export is nickel, accounting for around 86 percent of all exports. Others include iron, fuel, shellfish, scrap metal and fish. New Caledonia’s main imports partners are France, Japan, Australia, South Korea, Spain, the United States and Belgium.

I don't understand why there aren't any other countries exporting to New Caledonia, that Nickel should be worth it.... Seems like someone is interested in keeping the country in there sphere of influence....


 
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People are rioting in Martinique, France's colonial territory in Central America.
Official buildings are set on fire. There are dead and wounded. The Paris administration has declared a curfew. Demonstrations and marches are banned.

Lets see if they'll stick this on Azerbaijan.

(BTW, this thread might soon need a name change.)
 

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People are rioting in Martinique, France's colonial territory in Central America.
Official buildings are set on fire. There are dead and wounded. The Paris administration has declared a curfew. Demonstrations and marches are banned.

Lets see if they'll stick this on Azerbaijan.

(BTW, this thread might soon need a name change.)
I think there is one thread for Central American colonies of France, so keep this one clean.

EDIT: Nope I remembered wrongly, there isn't one.
 
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