Results of the Gaza war

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During the Gaza war Israel conducted 3 ground offensives:

First offensive aimed to destroy Hamas strongholds in Gaza city and Khan Yunes and their rocket arsenal. After the end Israel released most of its reserve forces pulled out leaving narrow buffer zone and Netzarim corridor. It was shortest and bloodiest.

Second offensive aimed to take the border with Egypt including the Rafah city there were regular incursions in Gaza city to clean the remaining Hamas forces. In the end the first Trump cease fire was achieved and IDF again retreated leaving only a narrow buffer zone.

Third offensive aimed to take maximum territory with firm control.

1st offensive (27 oct 2023 - 8 apr 2024) ---- 260 KIA (164 days) -- 1.59 per day
2nd offensive (6 may 2024 - 19 jan 2025) -- 138 KIA (257 days) -- 0.53 per day
3rd offensive (19 mar 2025 - 10 Oct 2025) -- 59 KIA (205 days) --- 0.29 per day

Total number of soldiers killed in Gaza - 471.

 

[mehmed beg]

Hamas remained in the field, which means that The Jewery didn't win the war in the operative sense.

 

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Hamas remained in the field, which means that The Jewery didn't win the war in the operative sense.

As long there are Arabs in Gaza there will be Hamas too.

They could make peace and live in prosperity. Both sides would benefit. Instead they chose to harm Israel but harm themselves 1000 times more.

 

[mehmed beg]

As long there are Arabs in Gaza there will be Hamas too.

They could make peace and live in prosperity. Both sides would benefit. Instead they chose to harm Israel but harm themselves 1000 times more.

Arabs tried to " Harm* you before the existence of Hamas? Or maybe, someone who has no legal rights nor recent presence in the land , needed to harm locals to begin with, in order to live" peacefully with prosperity " ? Otherwise, how someone, who left even before the Romans came, can live " peacefully " in the house which used to belong to Abdul????
Now, can you debunk in reasonable manner, not Zionist blubber, what I wrote?
Feel free to do that. Also I am not planning to chase my own tail, so Mr Shlomo, now is your chance to explain in legal terms WHAT IS YOUR CLAIM . I repeat LEGAL terms.
Will you do that for me?

 

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Arabs tried to " Harm* you before the existence of Hamas?

More than thousand years before.

Or maybe, someone who has no legal rights nor recent presence in the land , needed to harm locals to begin with, in order to live" peacefully with prosperity " ? Otherwise, how someone, who left even before the Romans came, can live " peacefully " in the house which used to belong to Abdul????

1) Jews were absolute majority in Holy Land during the time of Jesus and 1 century after him, so claim that Jews left before the Romans is beyond absurd.

2) Jews never left completely this land.

3) At the beginning of Zionism there were 420 K Arabs + 20 K Jews in Holy land. Today there are 7.4 million Arabs + 7.8 million Jews. So claim that Jews needed Arab houses to settle is again beyond absurd,

Now, can you debunk in reasonable manner, not Zionist blubber, what I wrote?

Done.

 

[mehmed beg]

More than thousand years before.


1) Jews were absolute majority in Holy Land during the time of Jesus and 1 century after him, so claim that Jews left before the Romans is beyond absurd.

2) Jews never left completely this land.

3) At the beginning of Zionism there were 420 K Arabs + 20 K Jews in Holy land. Today there are 7.4 million Arabs + 7.8 million Jews. So claim that Jews needed Arab houses to settle is again beyond absurd,




Done.

Debunk? Really?
More than 50% of all Jews lived in diaspora before the Romans came. It is so easily probable, don't you realise that?
For example, when someone merely looks at history of the ancient cities, it is always said that " There was an ancient Jewish community, thousands years old" ? No ?
That part of Arabs trying to harm the Jews a thousand years before Hamas, is utter nonsense.
Hz Umar RA brought you back to Quds when he realised that you weren't there at all , no?
Don't you realise that such records and incredibly well documented?
At beginning of Zionism , over 300k Jews lived in the Ottoman Empire, just few thousands lived in Palestine, no?
Ottoman Tax records show above avarage prosperity of the Arab populace, also.
Another thing is , in my original massage, I asked you to prove any LEGAL reason or issue connecting you and Palestine and any relatively recent connection in regards of Palestine. I don't see your answer here? Where it is ???
It is like someone who is is of Spanish origin and left to the Americas 1542 , wants to claim the house in Cadiz, which his family led , almost 500 years ago???
What are you saying here is that you believe that God promised you that land and we need to respect it.
Bottom line here is that you debunked nothing,.
Practically you wrote here NOTHING THAT HAS LEGAL BEARINGS AND IMPORTANCE.
By the the way, I just saw your answer and it took me no thinking to write you any answer.

 

[mehmed beg]

More than thousand years before.


1) Jews were absolute majority in Holy Land during the time of Jesus and 1 century after him, so claim that Jews left before the Romans is beyond absurd.

2) Jews never left completely this land.

3) At the beginning of Zionism there were 420 K Arabs + 20 K Jews in Holy land. Today there are 7.4 million Arabs + 7.8 million Jews. So claim that Jews needed Arab houses to settle is again beyond absurd,




Done.

Oh yea, poor Jews never left the Palestine or unsuccessful ones returned and so ?
You want to make the claim based on that? Especially taking in to consideration that the majority of those Jews who remained became Christians and Muslims, now they are called Palestinians, no?
And where are those people who existed before the Jews in Palestine? Caanan? Is Polish Jew their successor or is it someone who has always been there????
Oh yes , by the way what was stopping Baghdadi or Thessaloniki Jew living in the Ottoman Empire to go and live in Palestine????
I would like to know.
Oh , I see " Only Messiah, can bring back the Jews to the Palestine", no? So Ben Gurion is Messiah? An atheist who begged Ottomans to serve in their Army, under the command of Izzedin Al Qassam???
All of this is beyond idiotic