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I got a bad feeling that the government has a plan to make peace with PKK to gain "minority" votes that were lost to CHP, but to distract people from this they'll escalate tensions with Israel whilst also selling the situation in Syria as a victory.

PKK will be able to regroup and the tensions with Israel will lead to even more US support for PKK. But none of that will matter because AKP will be able to please PKK supporters and Islamists, and therefore win the next elections.

If we don't see a major operation by February then I think my worst fears will come true.
 

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I got a bad feeling that the government has a plan to make peace with PKK to gain "minority" votes that were lost to CHP, but to distract people from this they'll escalate tensions with Israel whilst also selling the situation in Syria as a victory.

PKK will be able to regroup and the tensions with Israel will lead to even more US support for PKK. But none of that will matter because AKP will be able to please PKK supporters and Islamists, and therefore win the next elections.

If we don't see a major operation by February then I think my worst fears will come true.
They want to establish a bastard autonomous region like in N.Iraq, that's why they are pushing and hoping that ENKS (Syrian Barzanists) get's a foothold in the region.

Operation should have started right after the fall of Damascus, when the current Goverment is still in office, but 2000 yilik devlet akili, vardir bir bildigi...
 

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They want to establish a bastard autonomous region like in N.Iraq, that's why they are pushing and hoping that ENKS (Syrian Barzanists) get's a foothold in the region.

Operation should have started right after the fall of Damascus, when the current Goverment is still in office, but 2000 yilik devlet akili, vardir bir bildigi...
Luckily for us Raqqa region and Deir ez Zor region is untennable for the PKK and they have to retreat from those areas. Right now all the Hydro electric dams and alot of the Gas and Oil Platforms are under PKK which makes them a target for the Damascus. Like the Barzani retreated from Kirkuk , PKK has to retreat from those areas. Its completely up to us to delete the rest. We will see what happens.
 

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Luckily for us Raqqa region and Deir ez Zor region is untennable for the PKK and they have to retreat from those areas. Right now all the Hydro electric dams and alot of the Gas and Oil Platforms are under PKK which makes them a target for the Damascus. Like the Barzani retreated from Kirkuk , PKK has to retreat from those areas. Its completely up to us to delete the rest. We will see what happens.
There is no reason why the YPG still has presence west of the Euphrates yet somehow nobody cares to change that, instead they sacrifice SNA for a bridge, they carelessly without any logic behind trying to establish a outpost in an area where FPV drone strikes intensify.

Since the last couple days YPG/PKK strikes SNA position with artillery from this (map) region, no reactions, not from the SNA not from us and i can guarantee you that we are the ones holding them back. It was also our decision makers that created TEL RIFAT pocket during Operation Olive Branch, we had couple of casualities because they hadn't the balls to capture it. Now someone should tell me why the f*ck this place still exists and is under the control of terrorists? If SNA would capture those towns it would give us a ton of leverage over YPG/PKK and even might trigger Arab uprising in Raqqa.
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If someone would attack a US outpost like, they immediately f*ck them up without mercy, our ... are just talk nothing else.
 

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There is no reason why the YPG still has presence west of the Euphrates yet somehow nobody cares to change that, instead they sacrifice SNA for a bridge, they carelessly without any logic behind trying to establish a outpost in an area where FPV drone strikes intensify.

Since the last couple days YPG/PKK strikes SNA position with artillery from this (map) region, no reactions, not from the SNA not from us and i can guarantee you that we are the ones holding them back. It was also our decision makers that created TEL RIFAT pocket during Operation Olive Branch, we had couple of casualities because they hadn't the balls to capture it. Now someone should tell me why the f*ck this place still exists and is under the control of terrorists? If SNA would capture those towns it would give us a ton of leverage over YPG/PKK and even might trigger Arab uprising in Raqqa.
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If someone would attack a US outpost like, they immediately f*ck them up without mercy, our ... are just talk nothing else.
I completely agree with you. If Erdoğan's play with Ocalan backfires , ( I hope it will ) i think we will see a huge pressure on PKK on Syria.
 

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I completely agree with you. If Erdoğan's play with Ocalan backfires , ( I hope it will ) i think we will see a huge pressure on PKK on Syria.
You besieged couple PKK tunnels in Iraq, you are hunting their leaders down, you destroy their supply lines seriously breaking their backbone the coming years (Gara Operations) but out of nowhere you allow HDP to meet with OCalan, you talk about letting him speak in the TBMM. This shit makes no sense.
 

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You besieged couple PKK tunnels in Iraq, you are hunting their leaders down, you destroy their supply lines seriously breaking their backbone the coming years but out of nowhere you allow HDP to meet with OCalan, you talk about letting him speak in the TBMM. This shit makes no sense.
It makes sense if Erdoğan wants to call for snap elections and go for another term :D
 

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Unfortnately alot of Muslims (Especially South Asian one's) buy into the whole White saviour complex and will beleive any lie's told by the white man like Scott Ritter

If you pay attention for long enough the "white man" always has the "grifters" ready to control the opposite side of the narrative. A big one in the UK for a long time was this guy GG, George Galloway.

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Its how the white man controls the narrative, they make sure to have the opposition ready. Yet when it comes to say Turkiye and the PKK both the right and left, both the ones for and against war are united in their message. They are all agents without a doubt.

The PKK issue is critical, its a prime anglo-american regional objective. The entire spectrum of those for or against something will unite on it against Turkiye. A big giveaway that your dealing with a western agent is whether they are platformed or not and making good money off it. The truth won't bring you fame and fortune, it will unite all the demons against you to ruin you.
 

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I advise against listening to 2nd world propaganda. I have been following a network of those for years. Following are closely working together and consistently push Russian & Iranian narratives: Judge Neapolitano, Scott Ritter, Douglas MacGregor (he's more iffy though), guys from the Duran. They also switch messaging at the same time, like they are coordinated.

Just go back a few months and listen. They construct narratives that benefit Russo-Iranian axis at every turn.

Just ignore them.
 

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I advise against listening to 2nd world propaganda. I have been following a network of those for years. Following are closely working together and consistently push Russian & Iranian narratives: Judge Neapolitano, Scott Ritter, Douglas MacGregor (he's more iffy though), guys from the Duran. They also switch messaging at the same time, like they are coordinated.

Just go back a few months and listen. They construct narratives that benefit Russo-Iranian axis at every turn.

Just ignore them.
There may be coordination but it's more likely the expectations of their cultivated fanbase pushing their narratives for views. Everyone knows what they have to say to appease their fans. It's a positive feedback loop.
 

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I advise against listening to 2nd world propaganda. I have been following a network of those for years. Following are closely working together and consistently push Russian & Iranian narratives: Judge Neapolitano, Scott Ritter, Douglas MacGregor (he's more iffy though), guys from the Duran. They also switch messaging at the same time, like they are coordinated.

Just go back a few months and listen. They construct narratives that benefit Russo-Iranian axis at every turn.

Just ignore them.

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There is the anglo-american side and then there is the Russian side of the "revolutionary faith". This is why the world is dominated by either sides narrative but the moment an outsider to both sides moves in they unite against her. This is why the USA/Russia worked together against Turkiye in Syria, it is also why both pro zionist, anti-zionist voices are united in their pkk propaganda against Turkiye. Your dealing with two massive global cults who are competing with each other, but at the same time they are brothers, so they treat the Turk or anyone else who infringes on their conflict as a mutual enemy.

"James H. Billington (1929–2018) was a distinguished American historian, academic, and public servant who served as the 13th Librarian of Congress from 1987 to 2015. Over his career, he became one of the most respected authorities on Russian history and culture, as well as on the broader intellectual and cultural history of revolutions."

The revolutionary faith btw is secular humanism that moves towards a socialist state putting "state collectivism" above individual freedoms.
 

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We losing more than just ground, we're losing influence at the speed of light. HTS is stuck with pleasing US now because without US and EU sanctions wpn't go away.
 

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We losing more than just ground, we're losing influence at the speed of light. HTS is stuck with pleasing US now because without US and EU sanctions wpn't go away.
What do you expect us to do, launch an operation against the US-backed YPG?
 

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Great.

So for days pro-PKK accounts have been spreading "Turkey helps ISIS" bs. And now the terror attack in New Orleans is being blamed on ISIS. This will be used as an excuse to keep US troops in Syria.

Let's just continue celebrating the fall of Assad, dress up in Ottoman costumes and parade in İstanbul as Israel expands into Syria and the US arms YPG/PKK. Even Jolani is negotiating with "SDF".

It's a shitshow.
 

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It makes no sense for the US to build base in Ayn al-Arab. To protect the PKK from us or to fight against ISIS? This won't last long, sooner or later they will leave Syria.
 

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What do you expect us to do, launch an operation against the US-backed YPG?

Bad or Worse options. Worse is to do nothing, they can keep growing their balkanisation project and eventually they will support it against us directly. Bad is to move now and crush it, to take the sanctions, the embargoes and the international pressure and accept maybe 10 years of great hardship, but in the long run it will be worth it.
 

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Great.

So for days pro-PKK accounts have been spreading "Turkey helps ISIS" bs. And now the terror attack in New Orleans is being blamed on ISIS. This will be used as an excuse to keep US troops in Syria.

Let's just continue celebrating the fall of Assad, dress up in Ottoman costumes and parade in İstanbul as Israel expands into Syria and the US arms YPG/PKK. Even Jolani is negotiating with "SDF".

It's a shitshow.

American intelligence always activates their Isis card when they need to protect their communist terrorists from Turkiye.

Lets roll this American project forward 30 years and lets imagine Turkiye does nothing to oppose it, you will end up with a greater Kurdistan within NATO. It will have plenty of American, Isreali bases while Turkiye will be portrayed as the big enemy. The dehumanisation of Muslims for the last few decades, the tarnishing of Turkiye under an islamist political party is all in aid of this long term plan. It don't matter how many presidents come and go in the USA, the agenda is consistent. Elections are no more then theatre in much of the western world. Bush, Obama, Bidan, Trump, nothing changed the agenda remained consistent in the middle east.
 
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