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[Rodeo]

On today's news, Temel Kotil has reiterated the date March 18th for the first flight of HÜRJET. The program has suffered no delay according to this most recent statement.

 

[Yasar]

i do have a question rn, this T/R module which you have linked seems to have similar performance to ASELSAN one but like 50 times heavier and lot bigger, maybe the one I have sent is not the whole module?

I am not a radar specialist and wouldn’t dare to speculate on it even with my engineer hat on. But I have a feeling that this is a multi module unit with power source, cooling system and all other paraphernalia included in one box.
Below is a picture of a 200 watt S band GaN TR module.
What you have shared could well be the whole unit. We can’t really see the size of it.

 

[Radonsider]

I am not a radar specialist and wouldn’t dare to speculate on it even with my engineer hat on. But I have a feeling that this is a multi module unit with power source, cooling system and all other paraphernalia included in one box.
Below is a picture of a 200 watt S band GaN TR module.
What you have shared could well be the whole unit. We can’t really see the size of it.
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Size is around my finger (a bit thicker), so 8x2x1 (cm) would be a safe bet

 

[Yasar]

Size is around my finger (a bit thicker), so 8x2x1 (cm) would be a safe bet

The red lined area of the 200watt TR module in my last post where the GaN chips are, for half the power output, would approximately equate to a size you are defining.

 

[Boz]

 

[Combat-Master]

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Keep it up, great comparison!

 

[Tsenal]

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Nice comparison. I shared it on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarplanePorn/comments/10tcpy0

 

[Zafer]

As Temel Kotil keeps saying because the Hürjet is the latest to the scene it sports the latest concepts. Though Americans made their trainer a twin stabilizer model to match their twin stabilizer fighters most of the world will keep their single stabilizer planes for many more decades.

 

[Zafer]

I wish TAI move on to working on the LCA model without spending too much time on the trainer model.

 

[MADDOG]

Hürjet really looks cool here...

 

[Baryshx]

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Does anyone have any thoughts on the difference in landing gear and their position? Pros or cons?

 

[Gary]

Does anyone have any thoughts on the difference in landing gear and their position? Pros or cons?

All 3 are tricycle

 

[Turan]

All 3 are tricycle

Thanks, very informative post

 

[Ripley]

Does anyone have any thoughts on the difference in landing gear and their position? Pros or cons?

Was gonna ask the same question myself

While T50 and T7 designed on center lined main landing gears similar to F16 and old F104, on Hurjet they preferred the main landing gears beneath the wing roots.
The only main gain I can think of is Hurjet’s prospective ability to carry centerline pods and even ammunition.
On structural strength and weaknesses, experts here can do a better assessment.

Saying that, however, can’t help but notice the resemblance between Hurjet’s and F14’s main landing gear design. *wink wink.

 

[Sanchez]

Thinking about the jets Hürjet hopefully will train its pilots for, tricycle design is similar to that of F-16. But, same job is currently done by the T-38 with its more traditional landing gear, which is similar to that of Hürjet. One would think that the traditional design is more stable during landings, remembering the BF-109 from WW2?

 

[Zafer]

Mind you, carrier landing capability is also being considered for Hürjet.

 

[Jacop]

Thinking about the jets Hürjet hopefully will train its pilots for, tricycle design is similar to that of F-16. But, same job is currently done by the T-38 with its more traditional landing gear, which is similar to that of Hürjet. One would think that the traditional design is more stable during landings, remembering the BF-109 from WW2?

More balanced and more safe for trainer pilots. also if im not wrong tricycle design was related to speed for thinner wings

 

[Ripley]

Mind you, carrier landing capability is also being considered for Hürjet.

Actually I tried to hint out the main landing gear (mlg) they chose for the plane Regarding this probabiliTy. It highly resembles the F14’s mlg design which is a strong, rugged one that would endure CV operations. Therefore, I assumed that TAI already designed the plane carrier operations in mind.
Will this be the final naval version, if there’ll ever be a one? I doubt it but the mlg design they chose just might be a clue.
Again, though, don’t quote me on this one. Was just thinking.

 

[Sanchez]

Front landing gear disagrees with you.

I fail to see how it's also designed for carrier ops, as there are no carrier designs for it to land yet. This is made by TAI's own resources. Their goal is to create a LIFT trainer for hvkk and even that is not yet guaranteed. Let's not get that ahead of ourselves.

If Hürjet becomes a reality and an N version is in the works, it'll be buffed up heavily in structural integrity and MTOW will increase. Probably will need 2 engines or a bigger one. As it currently stands with the F404, not worth to have her on a carrier, what good will it do?

 

[Oublious]

Tolga Ozbek about the landing gear, it is capable to burden hard landing because of traiing plane.