TECHINT The Importance of Intelligence Organizations Providing TECHINT Shields in the Turkish Defence Industry

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I will say first what I will say last.
If you had a daughter, would you let her hang out with a man with a history of abuse and rape? You wouldn't, would you?

Now we can answer the rest of your questions. You can test your purchases from foreign defense companies in Turkey and check if you have spyware as much as you can. The success rate is another matter. We have companies established specifically for this.

However, if a company with a SIGINT history produces an aircraft that can take place on critical platforms such as test bed aircraft such as air soj, it primarily raises reliability concerns.
KK's promise that "we will deliver Atatürk Airport" adds to this reliability concern. We are not specifically questioning the credibility of LM or any other US company here. Because it is obvious that they are already foreign companies. However, you cannot compare the fact that the owners of SNC are Turkish and that they are integrated into the local ecosystem in a way that is no different from ASELSAN, with a company from the USA.
First of all, that is a horrible example, second, no, you did not show anything to support that claim. Everything you have said is based on hearsay and non supported allegations but your words are razor sharp. Your arguments don't fit your what you are able to showcase.

Noone suggests we should let SNC work on Hava SOJ.

And again, KK's promise is not that they'll give the airport to SNC but they will form a new company with SNC that will be based in the airport area. It doesn't mention that it will be used for direct tests, nor test flights. And again, the part about this company giving free reign of Turkish airspace to terrorists is absurd, hostile and basically a lie. You are literally suggesting planes will somehow emerge over Atatürk airport without the state allowing them over our airspace where we you know have radars, fighter jets etc. Same terrorists with that much of backing can just use a fake id and enter via IST or SAW, you know. Or better yet, use another religious cult that's intertwined with the state apparatus.

Noone suggests that SNC should have a free reign in Turkey or with regards to Turkish companies. Their owners being Turks have no relation whatsoever. This is not a case of a Trojan horse. We simply can cooperate with them on say space, with a joint company where Turkey holds the majority of it, create new IP, new tech, in house in Turkey, use it ourselves, sell it abroad, join NASA tenders, explore space, and few more things along the way. This is normal, plenty of companies around the world do this. It's okay.
 

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First of all, that is a horrible example, second, no, you did not show anything to support that claim. Everything you have said is based on hearsay and non supported allegations but your words are razor sharp. Your arguments don't fit your what you are able to showcase.

Noone suggests we should let SNC work on Hava SOJ.

And again, KK's promise is not that they'll give the airport to SNC but they will form a new company with SNC that will be based in the airport area. It doesn't mention that it will be used for direct tests, nor test flights. And again, the part about this company giving free reign of Turkish airspace to terrorists is absurd, hostile and basically a lie. You are literally suggesting planes will somehow emerge over Atatürk airport without the state allowing them over our airspace where we you know have radars, fighter jets etc. Same terrorists with that much of backing can just use a fake id and enter via IST or SAW, you know. Or better yet, use another religious cult that's intertwined with the state apparatus.

Noone suggests that SNC should have a free reign in Turkey or with regards to Turkish companies. Their owners being Turks have no relation whatsoever. This is not a case of a Trojan horse. We simply can cooperate with them on say space, with a joint company where Turkey holds the majority of it, create new IP, new tech, in house in Turkey, use it ourselves, sell it abroad, join NASA tenders, explore space, and few more things along the way. This is normal, plenty of companies around the world do this. It's okay.
First of all, we are talking about doubt here, yes it is true. But before that, I would like you to remember what the natural interests of this company are.

If you have opened a defense industry company in the USA, this does not make you a traitor. But if you started a company in the US that could convert a business jet into a SIGINT special-duty aircraft, that would make you a traitor.

Because in order to enter the intelligence business in the USA, you must first gain the trust of the relevant intelligence agency and get approval. This only requires you not to be in a position to oppose US interests under any circumstances. This includes Turkey's own interests. Because the USA does not accept borders for its own national security. Also, I don't think they will ignore the possibility of a company established in the USA collecting intelligence on behalf of Turkey. So you can't get into the intelligence business in the US unless the CIA decides you're selling your country to the bone.

So I am not obliged to present evidence for this company. They can only prove their sincerity after selling their companies and waiving all their rights over them, that they are not traitors. (Actually, due to the nature of intelligence, it is still undesirable for them to engage in a similar job in Turkey)
 

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Noone suggests we should let SNC work on Hava SOJ.
Meanwhile, developing a regional passenger aircraft project makes you a favorite candidate for maritime patrol aircraft, SIGINT special duty aircraft, test bed aircraft for the defense industry. Especially if you have a government like CHP behind you, you don't even have to go out to tender. Because the candidates who will compete with you will be a company of a foreign country. They will be a company of Turkish(!) origin.
So please let's not deceive each other. The visible village does not want a guide.
 

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Folks, KK's transfer of Atatürk Airport to SNC is not as simple as it seems. Because Atatürk Airport still has a runway where small-scale aircraft can land and take off. Giving this airport to a CIA front company means that Turkey loses control of its airspace against terrorist organizations.
No one will kidnap pkk terrorists from Ataturk Airport, shouting. In fact, if they're smart enough, you won't even realize they're bringing the terrorists in. No fool would say that "we are kidnapping terrorists there" anyway.
 
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Spy engineer at Baykar facilities in Hadımköy was caught red-handed

Yesterday, the facilities in Hadımköy of Baykar, the manufacturer of unmanned aerial vehicles such as Bayraktar Akıncı, TB3, TB2, as well as Kızılelma, the world's first unmanned combat aircraft, were at the center of a breathtaking espionage story.

HE WAS CAUGHT REMOVING THE HARD DISK FROM THE COMPUTER

An engineer working in the facilities was caught red-handed by security personnel who noticed him while he was removing the hard disk inside a computer containing technological secrets. It was stated that the investigation into the detained technology spy engineer will be carried out within the scope of the Fight against Terrorism.

 

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It was stated that the investigation into the detained technology spy engineer will be carried out within the scope of the Fight against Terrorism.
Why do they investigate it as a terror crime? Isn’t technologiCal espionage a crime in Turkey?

PS: i didn’t raise this as rhetorical question to mind storm, btw. I really don’t know how it goes and just curious.
 

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Why do they investigate it as a terror crime? Isn’t technologiCal espionage a crime in Turkey?

PS: i didn’t raise this as rhetorical question to mind storm, btw. I really don’t know how it goes and just curious.
Unfortunately, I don't know either.
 

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