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THE UKRAINE CRISIS

Double Standards: Has Europe’s Response to Refugees Changed?

Global Detention Project, 2 March 2022

During the 2015 refugee “crisis,” the EU called for detaining arriving refugees for up to
18 months. Not so today in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. The reasons for
this difference point to an intractable challenge in Europe’s ability to embrace the
refugee protection regime.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has triggered one of the largest and fastest refugee
movements that Europe has witnessed since the end of World War II.1 By 2 March,
only seven days into the war, 874,000 people were estimated to have fled to
neighbouring countries. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has
predicted that as many as four million people could flee the country in the coming
weeks. 2 The European Union (EU) puts this number higher, estimating that there may
eventually be seven million refugees. 3 Regardless which number is correct, it is now
abundantly clear that an unprecedented refugee challenge is unfolding in Europe.
While the EU calls this the largest humanitarian crisis that Europe has witnessed in
“many, many years,” 4 it is important to remember that it was not so long ago that the
continent faced another critical humanitarian challenge, the 2015 refugee “crisis”
spurred by the conflict in Syria.
But the starkly different responses—to date—that
Europe has directed at these two situations provide a cautionary lesson for those
hoping for a more humane, generous Europe. The differences also help explain why
some of those fleeing Ukraine—in particular, nationals from Africa, Asia, and the
Middle East—are not getting the same generous treatment as the citizens of Ukraine.

As of this writing, Ukraine’s neighbours have responded with an outpouring of public
and political support for the refugees. Political leaders have said publicly that refugees
from Ukraine are welcome and countries have been preparing to receive refugees on
their borders with teams of volunteers handing out food, water, clothing, and
medicines.5 Slovakia6 and Poland 7 have said that refugees fleeing the war in Ukrain will
be allowed to enter their countries even without passports, or other valid travel
documents; other EU countries, such as Ireland, have announced the immediate lifting
of visa requirements for people coming from Ukraine. 8
Across Europe, free public transport9 and phone communication10 is being provided for
Ukrainian refugees. The EU is proposing to reactivate the Temporary Protection
Directive, introduced in the 1990’s to manage large-scale refugee movements during
the Balkans crisis.11 Under this scheme, refugees from Ukraine would be offered up to
three years temporary protection in EU countries, without having to apply for asylum,
with rights to a residence permit and access to education, housing, and the labour
market.
The EU is also proposing to simplify border controls and entry conditions for people
fleeing Ukraine.12 Ukrainian refugees can travel for 90 days visa-free throughout EU
countries, and many have been moving on from neighbouring countries to join family
and friends in other EU countries.13 Throughout Europe, the public and politicians are
mobilizing to show solidarity and support for those fleeing Ukraine
This is how the international refugee protection regime should work, especially in times
of crisis: countries keep their borders open to those fleeing wars and conflict;
unnecessary identity and security checks are avoided; those fleeing warfare are not
penalized for arriving without valid identity and travel documents; detention measures
are not used; refugees are able to freely join family members in other countries;
communities and their leaders welcome refugees with generosity and solidarity.
But we know that this is not how the international protection regime has operated in
Europe, particularly in those same countries that are now welcoming refugees from
Ukraine. Public discourse in Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania is often tainted
by racist and xenophobic rhetoric about refugees and migrants, in particular those from
Middle Eastern and African countries, and they have adopted hostile policies like
border push-backs and draconian detention measures.
A case in point is Hungary: The country has refused to admit refugees from non-EU
countries since the 2015 “refugee crisis.”14 Prime Minister Victor Orbán has described
non-European refugees as “Muslim invaders” and migrants as “a poison,”15 claiming
that Hungary should not accept refugees from different cultures and religions to
“preserve its cultural and ethnic homogeneity.” 16 In May 2020, The European Court of
Justice found that Hungary’s arbitrary detention of asylum seekers in transit zones on
its border with Serbia was illegal.17

Hungary was not alone in its harsh response to the 2015 “crisis.” In their book
Immigration Detention in the European Union: In the Shadow of the “Crisis” (Springer
2020), Global Detention Project (GDP) researchers detailed the evolution of the
detention systems of all EU Members States before, during, and after the 2015 refugee
crisis. Among their key findings: During the years leading up to 2015, migration-related
detention had largely plateaued across the EU, but refugee pressures spurred
important increases in detention regimes across the entire region, which remained in
place long after the “crisis” had subsided. Fuelling these increases was anti-migrant
rhetoric that spread from Brussels across the entire continent, abetted by EU-wide
migration directives that allowed for lengthy detention periods. Then-European Council
President Donald Tusk argued at that time that all arriving refugees should be detained
for up to 18 months, in line with the limits in EU directives, while their claims were
processed.18
More recently, in late 2021, the terrible treatment of migrants and asylum seekers,
most of them from Iraq and Afghanistan, trapped on Belarus’s borders with Poland and
Lithuania sparked outrage across Europe. Belarus was accused of weaponizing the
plight of these people, luring them to Belarus in order to travel on to EU countries as
retaliation against EU sanctions.
Polish border guards were brutal in their treatment of these refugees and migrants,
many of whom sustained serious injuries from Polish and Belarussian border guards.
Thousands were left stranded in the forests between the two countries in deplorable

conditions with no food, shelter, blankets, or medicines: at least 19 migrants died in the
freezing winter temperatures. In response to this situation, Poland sent soldiers to its
border, erected razor-wire fencing, and started the construction of a 186-kilometre wall
to prevent asylum seekers entering from Belarus. It also adopted legislation that would
allow it to expel anyone who irregularly crossed its border and banned their re-entry.
Even before the stand-off between Poland and Belarus, refugees in Poland did not
receive a warm welcome. Very few asylum seekers were granted refugee status (in
2020 out of 2,803 applications, only 161 were granted refugee status) and large
numbers of refugees and migrants were detained: a total of 1,675 migrants and asylum
seekers were in detention in January 2022, compared to just 122 people during all of
2020.
With this recent history as backdrop, the double standar
ds and racism inherent in
Europe’s refugee responses
are glaring. There are no calls from Brussels today to
detain refugees fleeing Ukraine for up to 18 months. Why? Because, as Bulgarian
Prime Minister Kiril Petkov said recently about people from Ukraine: “These are not the
refugees we are used to. ... These people are Europeans. ... These people are
intelligent, they are educated people. ... This is not the refugee wave we have been
used to, people we were not sure about their identity, people with unclear pasts, who
could have been even terrorists.”19
Similarly, Hungary’s Orban has said that every refugee coming from Ukraine will be

“welcomed by friends in Hungary,” adding that one doesn’t have to be a “rocket
scientist” to see the difference between “masses arriving from Muslim regions in hope
of a better life in Europe” and helping Ukrainian refugees who have come to Hungary
because of the war.
20
Sadly, these double standards have reared in the response to non-Ukrainians fleeing
the war in Ukraine. There are a growing number of accounts of students and migrants
from Africa, the Middle East, and Asia who have faced racist treatment, obstruction,
and violence trying to flee Ukraine. Many described being prevented from boarding
trains and buses in Ukrainian towns while priority was given to Ukrainian nationals;
others described being aggressively pulled aside and stopped by Ukrainian border
guards when trying to cross into neighbouring countries.21 There are also accounts of
Polish authorities taking aside African students and refusing them entry into Poland,
although the Polish Ambassador to the UN told a General Assembly meeting on 28
February that assertions of race or religion-based discrimination at Poland’s border
were “a complete lie and a terrible insult to us.” He asserted that “nationals of all
countries who suffered from Russian aggression or whose life is at risk can seek
shelter in my country.” According to the Ambassador, people from 125 different
nationalities have been admitted into Poland from Ukraine.22

Several African leaders—including, notably, Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari—
have strongly criticized the discrimination on the borders of Ukraine, saying everyone
has the same right to cross international borders to flee conflict and seek safety.23 The
African Union stated that “reports that Africans are singled out for unacceptable
dissimilar treatment would be shockingly racist and in breach of international law,” and
called for all countries to “show the same empathy and support to all people fleeing war
notwithstanding their racial identity.” 24 Similar messages were shared by the UN
Secretary General, Antonio Guterres, who said in a Tweet: “I am grateful for the
compassion, generosity and solidarity of Ukraine’s neighbours who are taking in those
seeking safety. It is important that this solidarity is extended without any discrimination
based on race, religion or ethnicity,”25 and the UN High Commissioner for Refugees
who stressed that “it is crucial that receiving countries continue to welcome all those
fleeing conflict and insecurity—irrespective of nationality and race.”26

The Ukraine refugee crisis presents Europe with not only an important opportunity to
demonstrate its generosity, humanitarian values, and commitment to the global refugee
protection regime; it is also a critical moment of reflection: Can the peoples of Europe
overcome their widespread racism and animosity and embrace the universalist spirit of
the 1951 Refugee Convention? As Article 3 of the Convention holds, all member states
“shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refugees without discrimination as to
race, religion or country of origin.” 27

1 Forbes, “Looming Ukrainian Refugee Crisis Presents Challenge Not Seen Since World War II,” Andy J. Semotiuk, 28
February 2022, https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2022/02/28/looming-ukrainian-refugee-crisis-presents-
challenge-not-seen-since-world-war-ii/
2 UNHCR Operational Data Portal, “Ukraine Refugee Situation,” accessed 2 March 2022,
3 France 24, “Russian invasion risks displacing more than 7 million Ukrainians, says EU crisis commissioner,” 27
February 2022, https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220227-europe-must-prepare-for-millions-of-ukrainian-refugees-
eu-commissioner-says
4 France 24, “Russian invasion risks displacing more than 7 million Ukrainians, says EU crisis commissioner,” 27
February 2022, https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220227-europe-must-prepare-for-millions-of-ukrainian-refugees-
eu-commissioner-says
5 Radio Canada International, “Poland will help all Ukrainians fleeing war with Russia: officials,” 25 February 2022,
6 Schengen Visa Info News, “Slovakia Permits Entry for Ukrainians Fleeing the War Without Valid Travel Documents,”26
February 2022, https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/slovakia-permits-entry-for-ukrainians-fleeing-the-war-without-
valid-travel-documents/
7 Radio Canada International, “Poland will help all Ukrainians fleeing war with Russia: officials,” 25 February 2022,
8 Government of Ireland, Department of Justice, “Minister McEntee Announces Immediate Lifting of Visa Requirements
Between Ukraine and Ireland,” 25 February 2022, https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/00aef-minister-mcentee-
announces-immediate-lifting-of-visa-requirements-between-ukraine-and-ireland/
9 Sean Goulding Carroll, “EU Rail Companies Offer Fleeing Ukrainians Free Rail Travel,” Euractiv, 28 February 2022,
10 Reuters, “Deutsche Telekom introduces free-of-charge calls to Ukraine,” 25 February 2022,
25/
11 Jacopo Barigazzi and Suzanne Lynch, “EU debates granting temporary protection to refugees from Ukraine,” Politico,
27 February 2022, https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-refugees-european-union-war-russia-temporary-protection-
debate/
12 European Commission, “Ukraine: Commission proposes temporary protection for people fleeing war in Ukraine and
guidelines for border checks,” 2 March 2022, https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/news/ukraine-
commission-proposes-temporary-protection-people-fleeing-war-ukraine-and-guidelines-border-2022-03-02_en
13 Monika Pronczuk, “The European Union will ask states to grant asylum to Ukrainian refugees for up to 3 years,” The
New York Times, 27 February 2022, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/27/world/europe/european-union-ukrainian-
refugees-asylum.html
14 BBC News, “EU Court Censures Hungary Over Migrant Detentions,” 14 May 2020, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-
europe-52663910
15 DW, “Victor Orban’s Most Controversial Migration Comments,” accessed 2 March 2022,
16 Renata Brito, “Europe Welcomes Ukrainian Refugees – Others Less So,” AP News, 28 February 2022,
17 BBC News, “EU Court Censures Hungary Over Migrant Detentions,” 14 May 2020, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-
europe-52663910
5
18 Izabella Majcher, Michael Flynn, and Mariette Grange, Immigration Detention in the European Union: In the Wake of
the “Crisis,” Springer 2020, https://www.globaldetentionproject.org/immigration-detention-in-the-european-union-in-the-
shadow-of-the-crisis
19 Renata Brito, “Europe Welcomes Ukrainian Refugees – Others Less So,” AP News, 28 February 2022,
20 About Hungary, “PM Orbán: Every refugee arriving in Hungary from Ukraine must be helped,” 28 February 2022,
21 Stephanie Busari et. al, “ Foreign students fleeing Ukraine say they face segregation, racism at border,” CNN, 1
March 2022, https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/28/europe/students-allege-racism-ukraine-cmd-intl/index.html
22 Renata Brito, “Europe Welcomes Ukrainian Refugees – Others Less So,” AP News, 28 February 2022,
23 Emmanuel Akinwotu and Weronika Strzyżyńska, “Nigeria condemns treatment of Africans trying to flee Ukraine,” The
Guardian, 28 February 2022, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/28/nigeria-condemns-treatment-africans-
trying-to-flee-ukraine-government-poland-discrimination
24 Renata Brito, “Europe Welcomes Ukrainian Refugees – Others Less So,” AP News, 28 February 2022,
25 Antonio guterres, Twitter, 28 February 2022, 26 UNHCR, Twitter, 27 February 2022,
 

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THE UKRAINE CRISIS

Double Standards: Has Europe’s Response to Refugees Changed?

Global Detention Project, 2 March 2022

During the 2015 refugee “crisis,” the EU called for detaining arriving refugees for up to
18 months. Not so today in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. The reasons for
this difference point to an intractable challenge in Europe’s ability to embrace the
refugee protection regime.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has triggered one of the largest and fastest refugee
movements that Europe has witnessed since the end of World War II.1 By 2 March,
only seven days into the war, 874,000 people were estimated to have fled to
neighbouring countries. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has
predicted that as many as four million people could flee the country in the coming
weeks. 2 The European Union (EU) puts this number higher, estimating that there may
eventually be seven million refugees. 3 Regardless which number is correct, it is now
abundantly clear that an unprecedented refugee challenge is unfolding in Europe.
While the EU calls this the largest humanitarian crisis that Europe has witnessed in
“many, many years,” 4 it is important to remember that it was not so long ago that the
continent faced another critical humanitarian challenge, the 2015 refugee “crisis”
spurred by the conflict in Syria.
But the starkly different responses—to date—that
Europe has directed at these two situations provide a cautionary lesson for those
hoping for a more humane, generous Europe. The differences also help explain why
some of those fleeing Ukraine—in particular, nationals from Africa, Asia, and the
Middle East—are not getting the same generous treatment as the citizens of Ukraine.

As of this writing, Ukraine’s neighbours have responded with an outpouring of public
and political support for the refugees. Political leaders have said publicly that refugees
from Ukraine are welcome and countries have been preparing to receive refugees on
their borders with teams of volunteers handing out food, water, clothing, and
medicines.5 Slovakia6 and Poland 7 have said that refugees fleeing the war in Ukrain will
be allowed to enter their countries even without passports, or other valid travel
documents; other EU countries, such as Ireland, have announced the immediate lifting
of visa requirements for people coming from Ukraine. 8
Across Europe, free public transport9 and phone communication10 is being provided for
Ukrainian refugees. The EU is proposing to reactivate the Temporary Protection
Directive, introduced in the 1990’s to manage large-scale refugee movements during
the Balkans crisis.11 Under this scheme, refugees from Ukraine would be offered up to
three years temporary protection in EU countries, without having to apply for asylum,
with rights to a residence permit and access to education, housing, and the labour
market.
The EU is also proposing to simplify border controls and entry conditions for people
fleeing Ukraine.12 Ukrainian refugees can travel for 90 days visa-free throughout EU
countries, and many have been moving on from neighbouring countries to join family
and friends in other EU countries.13 Throughout Europe, the public and politicians are
mobilizing to show solidarity and support for those fleeing Ukraine
This is how the international refugee protection regime should work, especially in times
of crisis: countries keep their borders open to those fleeing wars and conflict;
unnecessary identity and security checks are avoided; those fleeing warfare are not
penalized for arriving without valid identity and travel documents; detention measures
are not used; refugees are able to freely join family members in other countries;
communities and their leaders welcome refugees with generosity and solidarity.
But we know that this is not how the international protection regime has operated in
Europe, particularly in those same countries that are now welcoming refugees from
Ukraine. Public discourse in Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania is often tainted
by racist and xenophobic rhetoric about refugees and migrants, in particular those from
Middle Eastern and African countries, and they have adopted hostile policies like
border push-backs and draconian detention measures.
A case in point is Hungary: The country has refused to admit refugees from non-EU
countries since the 2015 “refugee crisis.”14 Prime Minister Victor Orbán has described
non-European refugees as “Muslim invaders” and migrants as “a poison,”15 claiming
that Hungary should not accept refugees from different cultures and religions to
“preserve its cultural and ethnic homogeneity.” 16 In May 2020, The European Court of
Justice found that Hungary’s arbitrary detention of asylum seekers in transit zones on
its border with Serbia was illegal.17

Hungary was not alone in its harsh response to the 2015 “crisis.” In their book
Immigration Detention in the European Union: In the Shadow of the “Crisis” (Springer
2020), Global Detention Project (GDP) researchers detailed the evolution of the
detention systems of all EU Members States before, during, and after the 2015 refugee
crisis. Among their key findings: During the years leading up to 2015, migration-related
detention had largely plateaued across the EU, but refugee pressures spurred
important increases in detention regimes across the entire region, which remained in
place long after the “crisis” had subsided. Fuelling these increases was anti-migrant
rhetoric that spread from Brussels across the entire continent, abetted by EU-wide
migration directives that allowed for lengthy detention periods. Then-European Council
President Donald Tusk argued at that time that all arriving refugees should be detained
for up to 18 months, in line with the limits in EU directives, while their claims were
processed.18
More recently, in late 2021, the terrible treatment of migrants and asylum seekers,
most of them from Iraq and Afghanistan, trapped on Belarus’s borders with Poland and
Lithuania sparked outrage across Europe. Belarus was accused of weaponizing the
plight of these people, luring them to Belarus in order to travel on to EU countries as
retaliation against EU sanctions.
Polish border guards were brutal in their treatment of these refugees and migrants,
many of whom sustained serious injuries from Polish and Belarussian border guards.
Thousands were left stranded in the forests between the two countries in deplorable

conditions with no food, shelter, blankets, or medicines: at least 19 migrants died in the
freezing winter temperatures. In response to this situation, Poland sent soldiers to its
border, erected razor-wire fencing, and started the construction of a 186-kilometre wall
to prevent asylum seekers entering from Belarus. It also adopted legislation that would
allow it to expel anyone who irregularly crossed its border and banned their re-entry.
Even before the stand-off between Poland and Belarus, refugees in Poland did not
receive a warm welcome. Very few asylum seekers were granted refugee status (in
2020 out of 2,803 applications, only 161 were granted refugee status) and large
numbers of refugees and migrants were detained: a total of 1,675 migrants and asylum
seekers were in detention in January 2022, compared to just 122 people during all of
2020.
With this recent history as backdrop, the double standar
ds and racism inherent in
Europe’s refugee responses
are glaring. There are no calls from Brussels today to
detain refugees fleeing Ukraine for up to 18 months. Why? Because, as Bulgarian
Prime Minister Kiril Petkov said recently about people from Ukraine: “These are not the
refugees we are used to. ... These people are Europeans. ... These people are
intelligent, they are educated people. ... This is not the refugee wave we have been
used to, people we were not sure about their identity, people with unclear pasts, who
could have been even terrorists.”19
Similarly, Hungary’s Orban has said that every refugee coming from Ukraine will be

“welcomed by friends in Hungary,” adding that one doesn’t have to be a “rocket
scientist” to see the difference between “masses arriving from Muslim regions in hope
of a better life in Europe” and helping Ukrainian refugees who have come to Hungary
because of the war.
20
Sadly, these double standards have reared in the response to non-Ukrainians fleeing
the war in Ukraine. There are a growing number of accounts of students and migrants
from Africa, the Middle East, and Asia who have faced racist treatment, obstruction,
and violence trying to flee Ukraine. Many described being prevented from boarding
trains and buses in Ukrainian towns while priority was given to Ukrainian nationals;
others described being aggressively pulled aside and stopped by Ukrainian border
guards when trying to cross into neighbouring countries.21 There are also accounts of
Polish authorities taking aside African students and refusing them entry into Poland,
although the Polish Ambassador to the UN told a General Assembly meeting on 28
February that assertions of race or religion-based discrimination at Poland’s border
were “a complete lie and a terrible insult to us.” He asserted that “nationals of all
countries who suffered from Russian aggression or whose life is at risk can seek
shelter in my country.” According to the Ambassador, people from 125 different
nationalities have been admitted into Poland from Ukraine.22

Several African leaders—including, notably, Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari—
have strongly criticized the discrimination on the borders of Ukraine, saying everyone
has the same right to cross international borders to flee conflict and seek safety.23 The
African Union stated that “reports that Africans are singled out for unacceptable
dissimilar treatment would be shockingly racist and in breach of international law,” and
called for all countries to “show the same empathy and support to all people fleeing war
notwithstanding their racial identity.” 24 Similar messages were shared by the UN
Secretary General, Antonio Guterres, who said in a Tweet: “I am grateful for the
compassion, generosity and solidarity of Ukraine’s neighbours who are taking in those
seeking safety. It is important that this solidarity is extended without any discrimination
based on race, religion or ethnicity,”25 and the UN High Commissioner for Refugees
who stressed that “it is crucial that receiving countries continue to welcome all those
fleeing conflict and insecurity—irrespective of nationality and race.”26

The Ukraine refugee crisis presents Europe with not only an important opportunity to
demonstrate its generosity, humanitarian values, and commitment to the global refugee
protection regime; it is also a critical moment of reflection: Can the peoples of Europe
overcome their widespread racism and animosity and embrace the universalist spirit of
the 1951 Refugee Convention? As Article 3 of the Convention holds, all member states
“shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refugees without discrimination as to
race, religion or country of origin.” 27

1 Forbes, “Looming Ukrainian Refugee Crisis Presents Challenge Not Seen Since World War II,” Andy J. Semotiuk, 28
February 2022, https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2022/02/28/looming-ukrainian-refugee-crisis-presents-
challenge-not-seen-since-world-war-ii/
2 UNHCR Operational Data Portal, “Ukraine Refugee Situation,” accessed 2 March 2022,
3 France 24, “Russian invasion risks displacing more than 7 million Ukrainians, says EU crisis commissioner,” 27
February 2022, https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220227-europe-must-prepare-for-millions-of-ukrainian-refugees-
eu-commissioner-says
4 France 24, “Russian invasion risks displacing more than 7 million Ukrainians, says EU crisis commissioner,” 27
February 2022, https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220227-europe-must-prepare-for-millions-of-ukrainian-refugees-
eu-commissioner-says
5 Radio Canada International, “Poland will help all Ukrainians fleeing war with Russia: officials,” 25 February 2022,
6 Schengen Visa Info News, “Slovakia Permits Entry for Ukrainians Fleeing the War Without Valid Travel Documents,”26
February 2022, https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/slovakia-permits-entry-for-ukrainians-fleeing-the-war-without-
valid-travel-documents/
7 Radio Canada International, “Poland will help all Ukrainians fleeing war with Russia: officials,” 25 February 2022,
8 Government of Ireland, Department of Justice, “Minister McEntee Announces Immediate Lifting of Visa Requirements
Between Ukraine and Ireland,” 25 February 2022, https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/00aef-minister-mcentee-
announces-immediate-lifting-of-visa-requirements-between-ukraine-and-ireland/
9 Sean Goulding Carroll, “EU Rail Companies Offer Fleeing Ukrainians Free Rail Travel,” Euractiv, 28 February 2022,
10 Reuters, “Deutsche Telekom introduces free-of-charge calls to Ukraine,” 25 February 2022,
25/
11 Jacopo Barigazzi and Suzanne Lynch, “EU debates granting temporary protection to refugees from Ukraine,” Politico,
27 February 2022, https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-refugees-european-union-war-russia-temporary-protection-
debate/
12 European Commission, “Ukraine: Commission proposes temporary protection for people fleeing war in Ukraine and
guidelines for border checks,” 2 March 2022, https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/news/ukraine-
commission-proposes-temporary-protection-people-fleeing-war-ukraine-and-guidelines-border-2022-03-02_en
13 Monika Pronczuk, “The European Union will ask states to grant asylum to Ukrainian refugees for up to 3 years,” The
New York Times, 27 February 2022, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/27/world/europe/european-union-ukrainian-
refugees-asylum.html
14 BBC News, “EU Court Censures Hungary Over Migrant Detentions,” 14 May 2020, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-
europe-52663910
15 DW, “Victor Orban’s Most Controversial Migration Comments,” accessed 2 March 2022,
16 Renata Brito, “Europe Welcomes Ukrainian Refugees – Others Less So,” AP News, 28 February 2022,
17 BBC News, “EU Court Censures Hungary Over Migrant Detentions,” 14 May 2020, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-
europe-52663910
5
18 Izabella Majcher, Michael Flynn, and Mariette Grange, Immigration Detention in the European Union: In the Wake of
the “Crisis,” Springer 2020, https://www.globaldetentionproject.org/immigration-detention-in-the-european-union-in-the-
shadow-of-the-crisis
19 Renata Brito, “Europe Welcomes Ukrainian Refugees – Others Less So,” AP News, 28 February 2022,
20 About Hungary, “PM Orbán: Every refugee arriving in Hungary from Ukraine must be helped,” 28 February 2022,
21 Stephanie Busari et. al, “ Foreign students fleeing Ukraine say they face segregation, racism at border,” CNN, 1
March 2022, https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/28/europe/students-allege-racism-ukraine-cmd-intl/index.html
22 Renata Brito, “Europe Welcomes Ukrainian Refugees – Others Less So,” AP News, 28 February 2022,
23 Emmanuel Akinwotu and Weronika Strzyżyńska, “Nigeria condemns treatment of Africans trying to flee Ukraine,” The
Guardian, 28 February 2022, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/28/nigeria-condemns-treatment-africans-
trying-to-flee-ukraine-government-poland-discrimination
24 Renata Brito, “Europe Welcomes Ukrainian Refugees – Others Less So,” AP News, 28 February 2022,
25 Antonio guterres, Twitter, 28 February 2022, 26 UNHCR, Twitter, 27 February 2022,

Going through your post, I was trying, really trying to find a way to describe why Ukranians receive a warm welcome in Europe, and not the Syrians before them. Culture, education, lifestyle, religion, manners, looks, yada, yada, yada. But just take a look at the Ukranians leaving the country, women and children only, anyone else stay, and no one is trying to sneak out through the border. On the contrary, quarter of a million men have returned to fight. If that is a double standart (and I see no reason to be kind), my vote goes to the brave and their kin, and not to those coward assholes running their butt away when they hear a single shot of AK…
 

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The refugees from Ukraine are 99% consisted of women and children while close to 80 000 Ukrainian Men from abroad CAME back to Ukraine to fight for their country.

At the same time the huuuuge majority of "refugees" from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq etc is consisted of young men.

Of course that you will first care about YOUR own people. It is normal for Ukrainians to be better accepted in Europe than Middle Easterners. Ukrainians will be better accepted in many Middle Eastern countries too to be honest.
 

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Going through your post, I was trying, really trying to find a way to describe why Ukranians receive a warm welcome in Europe, and not the Syrians before them. Culture, education, lifestyle, religion, manners, looks, yada, yada, yada. But just take a look at the Ukranians leaving the country, women and children only, anyone else stay, and no one is trying to sneak out through the border. On the contrary, quarter of a million men have returned to fight. If that is a double standart (and I see no reason to be kind), my vote goes to the brave and their kin, and not to those coward assholes running their butt away when they hear a single shot of AK…
I been thinking about your point recently but i have to say that you have a valid point but not fully. Dont forget that in syria you have rebels who fight withing their own division. They not a state, and dont have the structure in place. The ukrainan war is state vs state. In Syria its normal people and ex millitary who formed a opposition group. Syria have a long history, and they are brave people.
 

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Going through your post, I was trying, really trying to find a way to describe why Ukranians receive a warm welcome in Europe, and not the Syrians before them. Culture, education, lifestyle, religion, manners, looks, yada, yada, yada. But just take a look at the Ukranians leaving the country, women and children only, anyone else stay, and no one is trying to sneak out through the border. On the contrary, quarter of a million men have returned to fight. If that is a double standart (and I see no reason to be kind), my vote goes to the brave and their kin, and not to those coward assholes running their butt away when they hear a single shot of AK…
I can say that before in Germany at least there was a particularly good attitude to Syrian and Libyan refugees as the population understood that getting young people into the country would help to salvage the economy and the aging demographic. However, shortly after the refugees arrived, there was a massive scandal where during the 2015-2016 New Year's (just after a lot of refugees were let into the country) more than 1,200 women were sexually assaulted, mostly in gang rapes, mostly by people holding refugee status. Overnight, Germany's attitude to refugees changed, and anti-immigration parties gained support.

Germany, like most of Europe and the West, is very liberal in terms of Women's rights and protection. As they come from war-torn countries, I assume that women in places such as Syria are not protected from rape as they would be in Europe, and perhaps this influenced the mind of many young refugees coming into the country. As Ukraine is a much more stable place (hopefully) this event will not repeat again.
 

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Going through your post, I was trying, really trying to find a way to describe why Ukranians receive a warm welcome in Europe, and not the Syrians before them. Culture, education, lifestyle, religion, manners, looks, yada, yada, yada. But just take a look at the Ukranians leaving the country, women and children only, anyone else stay, and no one is trying to sneak out through the border. On the contrary, quarter of a million men have returned to fight. If that is a double standart (and I see no reason to be kind), my vote goes to the brave and their kin, and not to those coward assholes running their butt away when they hear a single shot of AK…
You have a point there,the men stayed to fight.
In Syria,most men fled without fighting.
 
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You have point there,the men stayed to fight.
In Syria,most men fleed without fighting.
Past privileges for Ukranian citizens have never resulted in a human tidal wave from Ukraine. Europe is aware that these refugees (women and children) are not there to build a new life, and they will return, sooner or later, to their homeland when the dust settles.

Syrians? Man, they are there to stay, no matter what!
 

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Proven my point once again that its all about race once again.

You really think White people give a shit about Africans or Middle Easterners.

Bosniaks were white and European but them being Muslim basically cancelled them out as the white man saw them as Turks.

Its always been about race.
 

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Go to some African country like Namibia the blacks and whites all live in separate communities.

Look at the so calles rainbow nation of South Africa all the races there hate each other.
 

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Ukraine is at EU's doorstep so they will seek refuge in neighboring countries,it is our duty to help them.

Ukrainians are fleeing war compared to the vast majority of economic migrants who took advantage of Syria's crisis and crossed entire countries and continents to try to sneak into Europe. Ukrainians being of a culture pretty similar to ours it won't be hard to integrate them.

Why Europeans are having sympathy to Ukrainians ? Because the vast majority of those fleeing are women and children while men stay behind and fight (Thousands came back to Ukraine to fight).... In Syria and middle east men prefered to flee than fighting and left their families behind in the clusterfck.

Those refugees (at least a majority of them) will eventually go back to Ukraine once this BS is over.

I hope France takes its fair chair of Ukrainians refugees.
 

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Another aspect is the difference of the war conducted in Ukraine and the one that has been fought in Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan.
It's blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain that Ukraine had been unjustly attacked by Russia for selfish reasons. Nobody's buying the "denazification" propaganda of the Kremlin, especially not since Zelensky is jewish and his family has seen members getting murdered during the Holocaust.

Putin has been a pariah to the west for 20 years now, everybody knows him. Russia, as the main successor state to the USSR and remaining a major military power well past the collapse of the soviet system, had come under renewed autocratic governance and taken a strong anti-western stance under Putin... This keeps the generations born and raised during the cold war somewhat on edge.
Ukraine has seen a conflict happening in Donetsk and Luhansk since 2014, and this has also been a somewhat constant topic of discussion in relation to Ukraine, Russia and Putin. Especially since it was well known that Russia supported the struggle of the separatists and military interference on their part was an open secret, with episodes like the shooting down of MH17 not forgotten.

This is different to what's been going on in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. The only leader the west was familiar with was Saddam, Assad was virtually unknown and the Taliban only popped up on the radar after 9/11, alongside Osama and Al-Qaeda. There hadn't been a popular understanding of the situation, the multitude of factors that led to the Arab Spring weren't realised. While the conflicts were broadcasted as they happened and the plight of the refugees genuine, there was also another old fear of Europe at play. Although this fear centered itself more strongly on the religious strongholds of the continent, especially Poland.

The catholic church and european christianity at large has been in a crisis of legitimacy for multiple decades now. Popular membership keeps receding, and the members that stay keep growing older. The Vatican is associated more with corruption and pedophilia scandals than catholicism and the center of christianity.

Now, a large number of muslim refugees enters the(still majority christian) societies and has to be aided and integrated. A lot of people, especially those that don't understand the origin of the refugee crises, start asking themselves how long this would go on and if it could potentially be a permanent integration. This is an overwhelming fear of a great many that don't try to understand the larger picture, but remain focused on their immediate surroundings and future.

What furthermore plays into this is the large number of young men coming as refugees. "What are they doing here, why aren't they fighting, they should be defending their home and family in their country!" starts becoming a common sentiment, which gets preyed upon by the radical parties formerly on the political fringe, but which start moving into mainstream discourse. These parties throw their full might behind the propaganda potential of social media, which in the same timespan goes from being an interest of the younger people to encompassing every age on the spectrum. We saw the huge rise in popularity of these parties and the corrupting of political discourse as it happened.

The question of exactly who the refugees are supposed to fight for usually doesn't get asked. In Syria, should they fight for Assad and become a target of american power, should they fight for some faction of the rebels and become a target of the russian bombs, should they join ISIS and become a target of everyone? Thanks to the constant onesided media coverage given to the american wars in the Middle East, the association that muslims = terrorists lamentably is very widespread, and with the sporadic actual terrorist attacks that happened throughout Europe, there is again the one-sided media coverage and political propaganda at play. I'm simplifying it into oblivion here, I'm aware, but I'm trying to get a basic picture going.

In Ukraine meanwhile, everyone knows who the aggressor is and it confirms a lot of previously held beliefs. The Ukrainians also are similar in culture, traditions and religion and seen as part of Europe. There are far fewer grey areas that need to be understood and therefore it's easier to have a moral stance on it all. The resistance put up by the Ukrainians is also playing into it, since nobody would have said that they'd still be standing when the war started on the 24th, and this heroism and bravery is very impressive to the average EU european, and generally worldwide.

So it isn't a choice, but a duty, to help the ukrainians. ESPECIALLY in Austria and Germany, with the unimaginable horrors that my ancestors inflicted onto the people living there. There could even be an argument made that not only the nazi occupation, but the very creation of the USSR was a german machination, with the subsequent horror of the holodomor and Stalin's purges, gulags and all the tragedies that occurred there.

I deeply hope that Austria and Germany take as many refugees as they can and more, I deeply hope so. Anyway, my mostly superficial take on the matter... it's complicated.
 

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I agree fully grown men fleeing like cowards deserve no sympathy.

People dont realise that most of these cowards left their families in refugee camps in Syria.

One guy left his wife and children.

Its normal for women, disabled people, mentally ill people, the elderly and children to flee and end up as refugees thats perfectly normal as they are not suppose to be fighting.

But seeing fully grown men running away like cowards even leaving their women and children behind is humilating and embarassing.
 
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