TR Turkey's Internal Counter-Terrorism Operations

[TheInsider]

AKP released the planners of the 28 June 2016 Atatürk Airport attack nearly a year ago. Now ISIS strikes again anyone suprised?

Atatürk Havalimanı saldırısını planlayan IŞİD mensuplarına tahliye

Olay, 28 Haziran 2016'da, yerel saatle 21:22'de gerçekleşmişti.

tr.euronews.com

 

[Ryder]

View attachment 75095

Says just the right one who has serious mental problems and also threatens me in PM. With what Threaten with those unwashed pants stained with piss and probably with a skid mark in the back

What a fcking asshole I cant believe it his still on this forum.

Threatening members with violence and death threats.

May have agreements and disagreements with members here but we never on this forum we stooped to the point where we felt to send threats to each other.

 

[TR_123456]

What a fcking asshole I cant believe it his still on this forum.

Threatening members with violence and death threats.

May have agreements and disagreements with members here but we never on this forum we stooped to the point where we felt to send threats to each other.

He is out!

 

[Asena_great]

i dont believe this is real isis attack. the terrorist are kurds from south east mainly bitlis ! just in this critical moment when YPG is looking for legitimacy out of nowhere isis remerges huh ?? way be amk really is this a anti salafi operation or camouflaged PKK operation ? few weeks ago when convoy of Americans got attack in south of syria Erlik also pointed this fact now we have isis attack here in turkey but they are all kurds from south east ??? lan do they take us for fools ?

 

[CAN_TR]

Which sane country would release someone who for example burned 12 people alive? A PKK terrorist who later also becomes a MP? Terrorists who have connections to ISIS? etc.

Türkiye is really a surreal place.

If the judiciary system doesn't change and continues to act in this passive humanist way, we will see many of such incidents.
Terrorists shouldn't be pardoned, you throw them into a dark, cold 2m² cell and throw away the keys.

 

[Barry]

The same games, different day. AKP needs to go. Turkish Muslims need to take their religion back from the backwards Kurdofash and wahabified elements in the population. You're becoming 3rd class citizens in your own nation whilst the evil filth of these groups degenerate the principles and standing of the Turkish state.

 

[Huelague]

i dont believe this is real isis attack. the terrorist are kurds from south east mainly bitlis ! just in this critical moment when YPG is looking for legitimacy out of nowhere isis remerges huh ?? way be amk really is this a anti salafi operation or camouflaged PKK operation ? few weeks ago when convoy of Americans got attack in south of syria Erlik also pointed this fact now we have isis attack here in turkey but they are all kurds from south east ??? lan do they take us for fools ?

Interestingly is the timeline.

 

[Sanchez]

i dont believe this is real isis attack

It wasn't an "attack" in the first place.

 

[mehmed beg]

Why are you triggered? Isid is islamists, isn't it? Feto is islamists, isn't it? Yes islamists are a big thread for the country. Do you know how many rebellion started beginning of the Turkish republic? Islamist always been a thread and seems to even be more in coming years.

I wrote on this forum before, I believe many times.
In order for the critique to be a critique, it needs to systemsd , sincere and had a objective goal.
I wrote few times, myself can write on top on head hundreds of the pages in regards of the same subject.
You see my friend, at the beginning of the Bosnian War , " someone" had an " idea" to organise people to demand " Brotherhood and Unity" that is with the Serbs , who already surrounded Sarajevo????!!!!All of it out of the Communist Ideals????? The accusations were mainly against is Islamists " who were on the barricades. Me Islamist? You can describe me as Enver Pasha admirer?!.
Put it this way, " people " were killed on those demonstrations by the Serbs, or maybe not,??? What really happened there? Well , I can't tell you .
Till today, the same people keep destroying us. I know their semantics, ideas etc? 405 millions of dollars were invested in them , just between 2020 to 2024 by USaid???
To cut long story short, I can write the pages about it . I will simplify it . I watched who some youth in Turkey made the mocking videos about Namaz. I guess that they are" Nationalists ".
Nationalists? People who mock Fevzi Pasha? Or Musa Kazim? Or Sultan Mehmed? Tugril Bay? Yunus Emre??? Really? Those people are going into the direction of Iranian Shah type of the opposition. And regardless, who you might be or what your political leanings might be , but those are lowest of the low.
Stupid Islamists or treacherous Islamists ( generally due to low iq ) are out there because of the same forces who manage those " Nationalists" , the difference is that those " Nationalists" are in the core similar to those Movers and Shakers. Other difference is , eventually someone can persuade Islamist to ( at least the masses) , to do something useful. But the opposing side? Never in million years, it is us or them.
I know that as the matter of fact, I haven't spent my 57 years, eating kebab. Believe me , there are plenty of things that I don't want to write in public. Just put it that way.

 

[Lool]

Breaking:
According to Yeni Safak, most of the ISIS terrorists who were neutralised in the recent anti-terror operations in Turkey which involved the martyrdom of 3 turkish officers were actually ISIS prisoners in SDF-controlled prisons, in Syria, and were released not long ago

SDF is using ISIS as a weapon against Turkey and Syria

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2005936616276218014

 

[Ryder]

Literally these isis fckwits were arming up.

They were released and lived in yalova for a while gathering weapons and bombs to attack Turkiye.

This was a intelligence failing. Its even more sad that they sent normal cops when the terrorists made it clear they are gonna fight.

This is like the Waco Siege. Just a bunch of fanatics looking for a fight. You should send in the army if its possible and give them what they deserve.

How ridiculous to believe these isis fckwits were going to surrender if the cops were sent.

Allah rahmet eylesin to the fallen Policemen.

 

[Lool]

Literally these isis fckwits were arming up.

They were released and lived in yalova for a while gathering weapons and bombs to attack Turkiye.

This was a intelligence failing. Its even more sad that they sent normal cops when the terrorists made it clear they are gonna fight.

This is like the Waco Siege. Just a bunch of fanatics looking for a fight. You should send in the army if its possible and give them what they deserve.

How ridiculous to believe these isis fckwits were going to surrender if the cops were sent.

Allah rahmet eylesin to the fallen Policemen.

It just shows how freaking dangerous and how much of degenerates the damn kurdish DEM/SDF are!

Do you know what this means? It means that there are routes from Syria into Turkey, which Turkey hasnt yet located, and is being effectively used by the SDF to smuggle ISIS terrorists into Turkey.

Highly likely tunnels from Ayn el-Arab or Qamishli into Kurdish-held areas!

 

[Ryder]

It just shows how freaking dangerous and how much of degenerates the damn kurdish DEM/SDF are!

Do you know what this means? It means that there are routes from Syria into Turkey, which Turkey hasnt yet located, and is being effectively used by the SDF to smuggle ISIS terrorists into Turkey.

Highly likely tunnels from Ayn el-Arab or Qamishli into Kurdish-held areas!

Kurds and Arabs are useless. They have no loyalty to any state.

They should not be serving in the Turkish armed forces.

Look up Ataturks letters and the complaints.

A lot of Turkish soldiers casualties in Syria came from relying on the local arabs and kurds.

Now in Turkiye they are gonna give them political power. Turks are now effectively going to be 3rd class citizens in their own country.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

What strikes me most about the current situation is that there is a lack of solid, publicly verifiable evidence, and at the same time, the prevailing explanation only makes limited sense.

The PKK/YPG and DEM-affiliated structures are now clearly more backed into a corner than they are capable of real action. The strategic focus of the US is clearly shifting toward Asia and China. Europe and the Middle East are losing priority. If it weren't for Israel, the US would probably have already largely withdrawn from the region and would only be administering it rather than actively shaping it. Work is currently on the back burner there.

This removes a crucial factor for terrorist groups such as the PKK/YPG: long-term political, financial, and military backing on a large scale from the US.
At the same time, Europe is tied up with the war in Ukraine, fears further Russian expansion into Eastern Europe, and is investing enormous sums, primarily for its own security. The fact that both Europe and Ukraine are increasingly having to beg for US support further underscores that Europe currently has other priorities than supporting the PKK/YPG.

Against this backdrop, a key question arises for me:
Who really benefits from a terrorist attack on Turkish soil at this point in time – and who benefits from it strategically?

The earlier attack on TAI also preoccupied me for a long time. Although the PKK claimed responsibility for it at the time, the benefit was difficult to understand, even then, in my view. The Turkish defense and industrial infrastructure had never been the primary target of such attacks before. If this step had been taken, Baykar would have been a much more obvious target from the PKK/YPG's point of view – if only because a large proportion of the drone attacks on PKK/YPG positions in Syria and Iraq originate from Baykar systems.

Instead, a highly strategic target was deliberately attacked. TAI is not a symbolic object, but a central pillar of Turkey's long-term technological and military capabilities for global operations.

Currently, there are only a few actors who are in open strategic competition or clear opposition to Turkey:
Israel, Greece/Cyprus, India and Iran, Russia (several drones in Turkey) – especially against the backdrop of Turkey's role in Syria and the power shifts there.

This does not mean that clear accusations can automatically be drawn from this. But the inconsistencies in the motive, the choice of target, and the strategic environment raise questions that should not be ignored.

 

[Ryder]

What strikes me most about the current situation is that there is a lack of solid, publicly verifiable evidence, and at the same time, the prevailing explanation only makes limited sense.

The PKK/YPG and DEM-affiliated structures are now clearly more backed into a corner than they are capable of real action. The strategic focus of the US is clearly shifting toward Asia and China. Europe and the Middle East are losing priority. If it weren't for Israel, the US would probably have already largely withdrawn from the region and would only be administering it rather than actively shaping it. Work is currently on the back burner there.

This removes a crucial factor for terrorist groups such as the PKK/YPG: long-term political, financial, and military backing on a large scale from the US.
At the same time, Europe is tied up with the war in Ukraine, fears further Russian expansion into Eastern Europe, and is investing enormous sums, primarily for its own security. The fact that both Europe and Ukraine are increasingly having to beg for US support further underscores that Europe currently has other priorities than supporting the PKK/YPG.

Against this backdrop, a key question arises for me:
Who really benefits from a terrorist attack on Turkish soil at this point in time – and who benefits from it strategically?

The earlier attack on TAI also preoccupied me for a long time. Although the PKK claimed responsibility for it at the time, the benefit was difficult to understand, even then, in my view. The Turkish defense and industrial infrastructure had never been the primary target of such attacks before. If this step had been taken, Baykar would have been a much more obvious target from the PKK/YPG's point of view – if only because a large proportion of the drone attacks on PKK/YPG positions in Syria and Iraq originate from Baykar systems.

Instead, a highly strategic target was deliberately attacked. TAI is not a symbolic object, but a central pillar of Turkey's long-term technological and military capabilities for global operations.

Currently, there are only a few actors who are in open strategic competition or clear opposition to Turkey:
Israel, Greece/Cyprus, India and Iran, Russia (several drones in Turkey) – especially against the backdrop of Turkey's role in Syria and the power shifts there.

This does not mean that clear accusations can automatically be drawn from this. But the inconsistencies in the motive, the choice of target, and the strategic environment raise questions that should not be ignored.

For me right now Israel is the biggest danger to Turkiye. Israel has now surpassed Russia and Iran.

India is too far but they will try to damage Turkiye even if they are far away.

Russia and Iran also a threat but Israel has overtaken both. Israel now got Greece/South Cyprus on board against Turkiye. Greece went with it because a few years ago the Greeks, Greek Cypriots and the Armenians signed a agreement to contain Turkish ambitions but this largely collapsed due to Azerbaijan taking Karabag back with Armenia collapsing on the frontline and Greece along with South Cyprus could not do anything about it. Israel is a different ball game as they are much more stronger than armenia. Politically, militarily even economically. USA will support them till the end. Turkiye has too many gaps that it has to fill before it can even take on Israel. Israel knows for a fact that Turkiye is no Iran which also complicates it further for them.

There is a possibility of Turkiye and Israel clashing in the future. Israel even considered a airstrike in Turkiye is all you need to know about them.

Pkk/ypg/dem and isis are just useful idiots in the grand schemes of geopolitical struggles.

Israeli users are even posting about kicking Turks out of not just Cyprus but also Istanbul.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

I know that the PKK/YPG and ISIS are useful idiots for the West; they always have been.
Divide and rule, control the ethnic groups and pit them against each other.
We also have our useful idiots, Hamas, as a tool against Israel.

The point is that the PKK/YPG does not have the infrastructure and stamina to enter into a conflict with Turkey; that would be suicide without proper backing. This is the wrong time to start conflicts again.
This also explains the disarmament of the PKK in Turkey, Syria, and Iraq; they know they don't stand a chance. Where the YPG, on the other hand, does not comply or does not feel addressed.

The ultra-left-wing Kurds as the PKK actually hate the Jews according to APO's teachings (he hates them too).
It makes no sense to kiss up to them, assuming they still take this jerk (APO) seriously.

I don't think there are many Kurds left in the YPG, but rather predominantly Druze (Arab Jews), Armenians, Syrians, and just a few misguided Kurds.

I myself am of half-Turkish/Kurdish origin and have never made a secret of it in the forum.
I think is Israel or Russian/Iran is responsible of this failed Operation.