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Visit itself doesn't mean anything more than the Japanese training squadron commander visiting Baykar.

New Saudi order of 48 aircraft from BAE, Spanish order of 45 new aircraft from Airbus Spain and the German order of 38 new aircraft ensures the supply lines in German Airbus and other subcontractors stays open for another 10-15 years at least. A Tranche 5 happening or not mostly depends on UK and Germany ordering it.
This is not the first visit, so yes it actually means something. If the Japanese visited Baykar five times in a span of a couple months there would be something too :)
 

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Just as you guys were talking about Japanese visit, they came for a second time
 

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Just as you guys were talking about Japanese visit, they came for a second time
Yup, that's the one I mentioned.

This is not the first visit, so yes it actually means something. If the Japanese visited Baykar five times in a span of a couple months there would be something too :)
It's the second one. And unless Germany gives its blessing and okay, doesn't matter if they visit 6 more times. These visits should be made to Germany instead.

One thing to add, If Turkey is able to place an order for EF Tranche 5, which is not yet an active phase, it would also be a carrot for UK and German governments, because costs would decrease. But Turkey being the launch customer for T5, also would mean greater Turkish political interest in the project, which I doubt the same governments would like very much. As Turkey won't be a part of the consortium, noone would want to give some part of the reins to Turkey over the future of the project. For F-35, US was the only voice that mattered, for EF, it's 4 countries. Even if they lower their procurement of the aircraft, they won't want to relinquish control over their baby.
 

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I created these images and posted them on Reddit before deleting them. The first one is a comparison of the F-22 and Kaan from a similar angle (though the Kaan photo was taken closer to the camera). The second is a comparison between the Su-57 and Kaan. Both are unofficial technical drawings that I rescaled so that 1 pixel equals 1 cm. I deleted them from Reddit because I didn’t like the stupid gatekeeping of retarded Westerners on Reddit so I deleted in there, but I also don’t want these images to just sit idle on my computer.
 

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Turkey and Spain are in advanced talks over a potential military aircraft exchange. The deal, valued at approximately $793 million, could see Turkey acquiring six Airbus A400M military transport jets from Spain in exchange for 24 Turkey’s domestically produced Hürjet training aircraft. This negotiation bears similarities to Spain’s previous attempts to offload its A400M aircraft. In 2019, Spain approached South Korea with a proposal to swap some of its A400Ms for KT-1 and T-50 trainer jets produced by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI). That deal, which didn’t materialize, would have marked South Korea’s first aircraft export to Europe. However, KAI later found success in exporting the T-50 derived FA-50 to Poland.
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Is it double rack?
 

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Liqued cooling capacity of Murat radar is 4.5 kw.F-16 air cooling capacity is 5.5 Kw.Should we combie these or say 5 kw is the limit for F16 radar cooling
 

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Air Force Commander Air General Ziya Cemal Kadıoğlu visited Qatar following the permanent deployment of the newly established Air Component Command within the Qatar Turkish Combined Joint Force Command. General Kadıoğlu made the first flight with Qatar Air Force Commander Major General Jassim Mohammed Ahmad Al-Mannai.

A reciprocal squadron consisting of similar number of Rafale planes should be (if not already there) in Turkiye.


A set up of 250 Qatari personnel with a number of Qatari airforce planes (12 Rafale and 8 Mirage 2000) was already put in place in Türkiye for ”training” purposes in 2022 for a period of 5 years.
But this is a point beyond that. It is a move to physically support to defend each other’s air space.
 
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As Yaşar Üstad said, Turkish-Qatari Joint air element command and permanent air base in Qatar is not the first step in the coordination of air forces and training support provided by the Turkish air force. In the public discourse, especially in the social media, the situation is interpreted in a slightly distorted way. These coordination activities and joint commands promise significant tactical gains for the Turkish Air Force too. Especially in terms of the platforms and systems that the Qatari air force has.
 

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