Turkish Armed Forces Logistics

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Ever since I watched this Youtube video about the impressive Logistics of the US, I wondered where we stand from a logistics standpoint.

We all saw how important logistics are when the Russians had to abandon hundreds of vehicles in Ukraine because they couldnt refuel them or how their soldiers were starving and started looting.

Any insights from our experts?

 

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List of active Turkish Air Force aircraft - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Transport
Transall C-160	Germany	transport / EW		1[6]
CASA CN-235	Spain / Indonesia	transport / utility		42[6]	one used for reconnaissance - licensed built by TAI[8]
Lockheed C-130	United States	tactical airlift	C-130B/E	19[9]
Airbus A400M Atlas	Spain	tactical airlift		10[10]

These are the transport aircrafts we currently operate according to Wikipedia. 2 of our A400M stuck in Kiev. Thats a total of 70 aircraft, but the CN-235 are rather small.

Compare this with France:

Transport and Tanker
Airbus A330 MRTT	Europe	Jet	Tanker & Transport	2018	8	8	8 delivered on an order of 15. The 9th will be delivered in December 2022.The 10th, 11th, 12th will be delivered in July, September and December 2023.The final target of 15 aircraft will be reached between 2025 and 2030 by converting the 3 A330-200s[39][40]
Boeing C-135FR	USA	Jet	Tanker	1964	11	11
Airbus A400M Atlas	Europe	Propeller	Transport	2014	20[41]	20	30 more on order
DHC-6 Twin Otter	Canada	Propeller	Transport	1976	5	5
CASA CN235M-200/300	Spain	Propeller	Transport	1983	27	27
Lockheed C-130 Hercules	USA	Propeller	Transport	1987	14	14	7 C-130H, 7 C-130H-30
Lockheed C-130J Super Hercules	USA	Propeller	Tanker & Transport	2018–2019	2/2	4	2 KC-130J and 2 C-130J to support Special Forces Operations[42]

Thats 80-90 ish with 30+ on order.


Now I dont know about the specifics, but is that enough?

 

[Heartbang]

List of active Turkish Air Force aircraft - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Transport
Transall C-160	Germany	transport / EW		1[6]
CASA CN-235	Spain / Indonesia	transport / utility		42[6]	one used for reconnaissance - licensed built by TAI[8]
Lockheed C-130	United States	tactical airlift	C-130B/E	19[9]
Airbus A400M Atlas	Spain	tactical airlift		10[10]

These are the transport aircrafts we currently operate according to Wikipedia. 2 of our A400M stuck in Kiev. Thats a total of 70 aircraft, but the CN-235 are rather small.

Compare this with France:

Transport and Tanker
Airbus A330 MRTT	Europe	Jet	Tanker & Transport	2018	8	8	8 delivered on an order of 15. The 9th will be delivered in December 2022.The 10th, 11th, 12th will be delivered in July, September and December 2023.The final target of 15 aircraft will be reached between 2025 and 2030 by converting the 3 A330-200s[39][40]
Boeing C-135FR	USA	Jet	Tanker	1964	11	11
Airbus A400M Atlas	Europe	Propeller	Transport	2014	20[41]	20	30 more on order
DHC-6 Twin Otter	Canada	Propeller	Transport	1976	5	5
CASA CN235M-200/300	Spain	Propeller	Transport	1983	27	27
Lockheed C-130 Hercules	USA	Propeller	Transport	1987	14	14	7 C-130H, 7 C-130H-30
Lockheed C-130J Super Hercules	USA	Propeller	Tanker & Transport	2018–2019	2/2	4	2 KC-130J and 2 C-130J to support Special Forces Operations[42]

Thats 80-90 ish with 30+ on order.


Now I dont know about the specifics, but is that enough?

I have a hunch that if required, Turkish Cargo would be involved. That provides an additional 21 aircraft, including 1 747 cargo plane!

 

[I_Love_F16]

We need more A400M’s in my opinion. At least double that amount. Maybe the TAF doesn’t want to project themselves too much abroad. They prefer to concentrate themselves into territories close to the country ? But even then more military airlifters are needed.

 

[Stuka]

We need more A400M’s in my opinion. At least double that amount. Maybe the TAF doesn’t want to project themselves too much abroad. They prefer to concentrate themselves into territories close to the country ? But even then more military airlifters are needed.

The major factor is Cost.
The A400M is too expensive.

Even the British call it unaffordable.

UK scraps additional A400M buy as ‘unaffordable'

The United Kingdom has scrapped plans to acquire additional Airbus A400M Atlas airlifters, saying it is no longer affordable.

www.janes.com

 

[Ryder]

The major factor is Cost.
The A400M is too expensive.

Even the British call it unaffordable.

UK scraps additional A400M buy as ‘unaffordable'

The United Kingdom has scrapped plans to acquire additional Airbus A400M Atlas airlifters, saying it is no longer affordable.

www.janes.com

Its also complex and complicated to maintain.

Like all Airbus stuff.

 

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Looks like our 2 A400M are finally back in Turkey from Ukraine:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1605226338306199554