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Once we discuss the reasons for Turkey's internet infrastructure is poor with some friends in this forum. I think one of the biggest reasons for this is satellite insufficiency. The newly signed Ka Band National Satellite Communication HUB System and Modem Development Project by ASELSAN gives clues about the importance of the subject. Of course, it is necessary to see the effect of satellites on internet speed. ASELSAN's project demonstrates this connection concretely. However, I think the technical part of the work includes different aspects, of course.

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The giant telescope moves towards the Eastern Anatolia Observatory(DAG)

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Yes, Turkey does have some semiconductor manufacturing capabilities. For Current local manufacturing capabilities I added a List from SSB document. In this same SSB document It suggest, We should invest 500m$ for IC/Semicondoctor capabities (130-90-65 nm CMOS and SiGe Nodes). Last Year We heard, There is Presidential Support for Nero Industries’ Investment to End Foreign Dependency in Semiconductor Sensors. This Nero Induestries invesment happens to worth 14 B TL / 1,5 B $ . So 45nm MOSFET or even 32 nm nodes are possible with This budget.

SSB document suggesting We should invest into Semiconductor Manufacuring about 500m$:
Bunun yanında yaklaşık 500M USD yatırımla 130-90-65nm dolayında teknolojiye dayalı bir CMOS / SiGe tümdevre üretim evi kurulmalıdır (Bkz. Şekil 4). Pazarın %15’ine hitap eden bu yatırımla savunma, otomotiv, endüstriyel elektronik, güç elektroniği ve sağlık alanlarına yönelik ve “fabless” mantığıyla çalışan tasarım evlerinde tasarlanan tümdevreleri üretilmelidir. SiGe ile, yüksek frekans (radar), görünür dalga boyu görüntüleme duyargaları; CMOS MEMS ile ivmeölçer, dönü duyargası, kızılötesi detektörler hedeflenmektedir.

Our Current Capabilities according to SSB (from 2020 April document):


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Anyone knows this, is it an app that can be downloaded and used, it sounds like a device that can be bought.
 

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Yes, Turkey does have some semiconductor manufacturing capabilities. For Current local manufacturing capabilities I added a List from SSB document. In this same SSB document It suggest, We should invest 500m$ for IC/Semicondoctor capabities (130-90-65 nm CMOS and SiGe Nodes). Last Year We heard, There is Presidential Support for Nero Industries’ Investment to End Foreign Dependency in Semiconductor Sensors. This Nero Induestries invesment happens to worth 14 B TL / 1,5 B $ . So 45nm MOSFET or even 32 nm nodes are possible with This budget.

SSB document suggesting We should invest into Semiconductor Manufacuring about 500m$:


Our Current Capabilities according to SSB (from 2020 April document):


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So there is 65nm already. This is something but still far away from the oldest still in the market smartphone chip lithography of 28nm. The current PC chip lithography is 14nm with 5nm Apple chip already powering the latest CISC Apple macbook. 8 years down the road when we are ready to put our MMU in the production line we should have advanced to 14nm tech at the least to have a respectable compute power for AI.

On the other side 5 kW single module laser was already announced to be a thing in Turkey.
 

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So there is 65nm already. This is something but still far away from the oldest still in the market smartphone chip lithography of 28nm. The current PC chip lithography is 14nm with 5nm Apple chip already powering the latest CISC Apple macbook. 8 years down the road when we are ready to put our MMU in the production line we should have advanced to 14nm tech at the least to have a respectable compute power for AI.

On the other side 5 kW single module laser was already announced to be a thing in Turkey.
Recent NASA Perseverance mission is powered by 23 years old IC. Most military and space projects are powered by old and proven processes and designs in most of their sub systems. So these nodes can fulfill all of our military, automotive and even home appliance needs.
 

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So there is 65nm already. This is something but still far away from the oldest still in the market smartphone chip lithography of 28nm. The current PC chip lithography is 14nm with 5nm Apple chip already powering the latest CISC Apple macbook. 8 years down the road when we are ready to put our MMU in the production line we should have advanced to 14nm tech at the least to have a respectable compute power for AI.

On the other side 5 kW single module laser was already announced to be a thing in Turkey.
For those who speak Turkish, the Podcast prepared by Arda Mevlütoğlu is like medicine.

The difference between ASIC and FPGA architecture in microleketronics emerges here. FGPA architecture is used in the defense industry. FGPA Technology is simpler. It is also cheaper.

Intel explained in detail the use of FPGAs in the defense sector according to their subjects.
 

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For those who speak Turkish, the Podcast prepared by Arda Mevlütoğlu is like medicine.

The difference between ASIC and FPGA architecture in microleketronics emerges here. FGPA architecture is used in the defense industry. FGPA Technology is simpler. It is also cheaper.

Intel explained in detail the use of FPGAs in the defense sector according to their subjects.
Here, all kinds of products from Intel's defense sector, from Sonars to Radars, Electronic Warfare applications to SIGINT solutions, are shared individually on both technology and component basis
 

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Recent NASA Perseverance mission is powered by 23 years old IC. Most military and space projects are powered by old and proven processes and designs in most of their sub systems. So these nodes can fulfill all of our military, automotive and even home appliance needs.
Space conditions require hardy chips against cosmic radiation, so they will have to do more with less compute power. But when you want to use AI on the fly you want it quick to employ more brains before taking action. There are trade-offs between reliability and quick response power and both has its place in different applications.
 
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