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Some points from video
: İt is improved version of TB2 which is produced for Ukrainian Navy.
Ukrainian Navy buys stationary and mobile command posts. But most important part is the navy will get command post for warships. So it means , TB2s take off with assistance of ground stations, over the sea the warship can take control of TB2.

TB2 - Ukrainian Navy version is fully integrated with Ukrainian weapons and missiles.

The range is doubled.( The first man said range of TB2 was 300km, I'm not sure if it is the range of new version)
This version has more improved seekers,cameras etc. The new naval TB2 can detect objects from 30-70km.
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That's all what i could understand.
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60-hour record flight from Aksungur
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Developed by Turkish Aerospace Industries (TUSAŞ) using ANKA UAV technology, Aksungur made its first flight operation on behalf of the General Directorate of Forestry this year. Adana-based flying Aksungur broke the record by staying in the air for 60 hours.

According to the news in the 123rd issue of TAI Magazine, he also played a role in the rescue of three fire watchtower employees during these record flights. Making an important contribution to the management of the operation from the air, Aksungur also contributed to the early detection of many fires in the Adana region. In the past months, the system has exceeded a thousand hours in total in flight tests.

THE FIRST USER OF AKSUNGUR, THE NAVAL FORCES

The Naval Forces Command had shifted some of the ANKA orders given to TAI to Aksungur. Its first delivery is expected this year.

Aksungur, which will complete the delivery of 4 systems by the end of the year, will be an important power especially for the Naval Forces with its long stay in the air and the load it carries.

Currently, there are 6 ANKA-B and 8 Bayraktar TB2 UAVs in the inventory of the Turkish Naval Forces Command.

 
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they said ghost missile for the SOM missile mentioned in the video. does the SOM missile have the ability to not be detected by air radars?
SOM is designed as a low-observable, aka stealthy, missile from the beginning. If you look at some recent pics of the SOM-J you can see the serrated seams which are used for stealth.
 

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60-hour record flight from Aksungur
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Developed by Turkish Aerospace Industries (TUSAŞ) using ANKA UAV technology, Aksungur made its first flight operation on behalf of the General Directorate of Forestry this year. Adana-based flying Aksungur broke the record by staying in the air for 60 hours.

According to the news in the 123rd issue of TAI Magazine, he also played a role in the rescue of three fire watchtower employees during these record flights. Making an important contribution to the management of the operation from the air, Aksungur also contributed to the early detection of many fires in the Adana region. In the past months, the system has exceeded a thousand hours in total in flight tests.

THE FIRST USER OF AKSUNGUR, THE NAVAL FORCES

The Naval Forces Command had shifted some of the ANKA orders given to TAI to Aksungur. Its first delivery is expected this year.

Aksungur, which will complete the delivery of 4 systems by the end of the year, will be an important power especially for the Naval Forces with its long stay in the air and the load it carries.

Currently, there are 6 ANKA-B and 8 Bayraktar TB2 UAVs in the inventory of the Turkish Naval Forces Command.


On the Aksungur brochure that is served on TAI website the flight time is written as 50 hours.

There is no evidence that Aksungur has flown 60 hours straight.

In previous interviews TAI officials have said that the 49 hour flight time is expected to be increased to 55 hours. In another interview they stated that they are striving to increase to 60 hours. However considering that TAI website brochure says 50 hours it is highly likely that the final flight endurance is set to 50 hours and any additional carrying capacity created by improving engine power and aerodynamic efficiency is used towards better payload capacity or better structural or stability performance rather than simply adding flight time. 50 hours is a respectable flight time, it means two days station keeping which is very satisfactory.
 
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On the Aksungur brochure that is served on TAI website the flight time is written as 50 hours.

There is no evidence that Aksungur has flown 60 hours straight.

In previous interviews TAI officials have said that the 49 hour flight time is expected to be increased to 55 hours. In another interview they stated that they are striving to increase to 60 hours. However considering that TAI website brochure says 50 hours it is highly likely that the final flight endurance is set to 50 hours and any additional carrying capacity created by improving engine power and aerodynamic efficiency is used towards better payload capacity or better structural or stability performance rather than simply adding flight time. 50 hours is a respectable flight time, it means two days station keeping which is very satisfactory.
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From Tusas mag.
We may guess, they are aiming for 72 hours eventually, Navy has a special requirement for MPA - Relay station UAV to loiter for long time with a certain equipment.
IMO in future the MPA UAV flotilla will be like:
- 1 / 2 Aksungur as sonobuoy carrier
- 1 Aksungur as MPA with SAR, EO, MAD and a relay station
- 1 Akıncı as torpedo / AShM carrier
- 1 manned MPA with Havelsan Martı, able to command 2-3 fleet of the UAVs.

That MPA will also be readily be able to command USVs or gather data by them, again using Aksungur as relay station.
 

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From Tusas mag.
We may guess, they are aiming for 72 hours eventually, Navy has a special requirement for MPA - Relay station UAV to loiter for long time with a certain equipment.
IMO in future the MPA UAV flotilla will be like:
- 1 / 2 Aksungur as sonobuoy carrier
- 1 Aksungur as MPA with SAR, EO, MAD and a relay station
- 1 Akıncı as torpedo / AShM carrier
- 1 manned MPA with Havelsan Martı, able to command 2-3 fleet of the UAVs.

That MPA will also be readily be able to command USVs or gather data by them, again using Aksungur as relay station.
On TAI twitter account it says 60 hours in the last 72 hours which means it may not be 60 hours continuously but a total of 60 hours. I think they wouldn't write 50 hours in the brochure if it has actually flown 60 hours straight. Needs clarification.
 
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TSK wants something with XYZ requirements - SSB decides which company gets the contract - Company produces - Delivery

That's how it looks to me, no tenders at all only requirements from the Military, rest is something that SSB decides... this is not healthy for the long term.
We need competition ffs, otherwise the companies will become lazy and greedy because they know that the contracts are safe in their pocket.
I'm behind and trying to catch up, but recently @Anmdt shared something that made me slightly sad. To your first line I'd like to add "Company produces - delivers their own product without giving a f about TSK requirements to products". :(
 

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On TAI twitter account it says 60 hours in the last 72 hours which means it may not be 60 hours continuously but a total of 60 hours. I think they wouldn't write 50 hours in the brochure if it has actually flown 60 hours straight. Needs clarification.
"Broke a record by staying up for 60 hours", what does this mean to you? It is obvious. It is not a record to stay in the air for 60 hours with an interruption especially if an earlier attempt has been made at 50 hours and broke a record.
Aksungur is made for this, and will eventually reach 72 hours.
 

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"Broke a record by staying up for 60 hours", what does this mean to you? It is obvious. It is not a record to stay in the air for 60 hours with an interruption especially if an earlier attempt has been made at 50 hours and broke a record.
Aksungur is made for this, and will eventually reach 72 hours.
It may be the interpretation of some clueless journalist. When you check out the PDF brochure it clearly says 50.
 

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IsmailDemir: "After AKINCI, drones such as faster, jet powered subsonic, jet powered supersonic, target drones, kamikaze drones will begin to join inventory.

We have various unmanned systems not only in the air, but also on land, sea and submarine."
 

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It may be the interpretation of some clueless journalist. When you check out the PDF brochure it clearly says 50.
It's possible that the brochure has yet to be updated, no?
 

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It's possible that the brochure has yet to be updated, no?
Brochure is a PDF file, it takes just one minute to update it. The engine on the plane is 170hp, when the 225 take off HP engine is employed it can take more fuel but I doubt it is already extended flight.
 

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Brochure is a PDF file, it takes just one minute to update it. The engine on the plane is 170hp, when the 225 take off HP engine is employed it can take more fuel but I doubt it is already extended flight.

TUSAS's UAV system's vice-director: "We are aiming to keep Aksungur in air for 60 hours in the serial production unit", spoke in 6 June.

So either vice-director of UAV programs is telling a lie or the brochure has not been updated.

The earlier record was 49 hours, the TUSAS magazine deliberately says " the record has been refreshed "
 

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On the Aksungur brochure that is served on TAI website the flight time is written as 50 hours.

There is no evidence that Aksungur has flown 60 hours straight.

In previous interviews TAI officials have said that the 49 hour flight time is expected to be increased to 55 hours. In another interview they stated that they are striving to increase to 60 hours. However considering that TAI website brochure says 50 hours it is highly likely that the final flight endurance is set to 50 hours and any additional carrying capacity created by improving engine power and aerodynamic efficiency is used towards better payload capacity or better structural or stability performance rather than simply adding flight time. 50 hours is a respectable flight time, it means two days station keeping which is very satisfactory.
To my knowledge (from a video a few weeks ago with the CEO of TAI shared here) , the extended flight time is due to reduced weight. The first set of Aksungurs had a test equipment and protoype components which add significant weight. It was planned from begging to remove these additional components to increase flight time to +60h.
 

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IsmailDemir: "After AKINCI, drones such as faster, jet powered subsonic, jet powered supersonic, target drones, kamikaze drones will begin to join inventory.

We have various unmanned systems not only in the air, but also on land, sea and submarine."
???
 

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IsmailDemir: "After AKINCI, drones such as faster, jet powered subsonic, jet powered supersonic, target drones, kamikaze drones will begin to join inventory.

We have various unmanned systems not only in the air, but also on land, sea and submarine."

İsmail Demir: "We are developing kamikaze unmanned submarine that can be used in submarines."
 

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IsmailDemir: "After AKINCI, drones such as faster, jet powered subsonic, jet powered supersonic, target drones, kamikaze drones will begin to join inventory.

We have various unmanned systems not only in the air, but also on land, sea and submarine."
Can you give a link? I don't have internet. I can't follow the subject closely.
 

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