TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[Zafer]

Ok this is interesting. Will TurAF get KE only to test MUM-T and to develop tactics? Afaik KE did zero weapon tests.

"Prototypes of Kızılelma have been produced. Hopefully, our company will enter mass production this year. Our armed forces are eagerly awaiting Kızılelma. Our company is also working day and night.

God willing, we are working day and night this year to deliver between 6 and 10 Kızılelmas to our end users."

— President of Defense Industries, Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1947373449883570437

So they can actually keep a secret from social media.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

However, it is possible that the introduction will simply take place without weapons tests and that these will be carried out over time, while they have already been handed over to the armed forces.
Because so far only the F-16 Özgür II (Block 30) have received Aselsan systems, where communication with the drone would be possible. But I don't know whether they are MUM T-compatible from the outset.
All other F-16s are currently still on Block 40/50+.
Kizilelma still has 2-3 years until TAI KAAN is ready in 2028/29.

 

[MonteCarlo]

Kızılelma with Karat IRST and Toygun EOTS if Baykar actually manages to hit their production goals with this setup Aselsan is going to make insane amounts of money

 

[hugh]

View attachment 76566 Kızılelma with Karat IRST and Toygun EOTS if Baykar actually manages to hit their production goals with this setup Aselsan is going to make insane amounts of money

such a killer drone. i saw foreigners who couldn't pronounce "KIZILELMA" call it "Kills-them-all". it's a fitting name

 

[Strong AI]

such a killer drone. i saw foreigners who couldn't pronounce "KIZILELMA" call it "Kills-them-all". it's a fitting name

Which suits with the ultimate goal of Baykar. They want to make KE as a full-fledged unmanned fighter, not just a wingman.

 

[TR_123456]

Which suits with the ultimate goal of Baykar. They want to make KE as a full-fledged unmanned fighter, not just a wingman.

Not with that engine.

 

[Strong AI]

Not with that engine.

One version will have twin TF10000

 

[TR_123456]

One version will have twin TF10000

Lets wait and see then.

 

[Strong AI]

View attachment 76566 Kızılelma with Karat IRST and Toygun EOTS if Baykar actually manages to hit their production goals with this setup Aselsan is going to make insane amounts of money

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Not with that engine.

I don't see this as a handicap in a fight, all fighters fire the afterburner without exception, so Kizilelma has a thrust to weight ratio of 1.1-1.2 even with one TF-10000 engine in Afterburner Mode.
Twin Engine config is nice to have but not necessary.

 

[TR_123456]

I don't see this as a handicap in a fight, all fighters fire the afterburner without exception, so Kizilelma has a thrust to weight ratio of 1.1-1.2 even with one TF-10000 engine in Afterburner Mode.
Twin Engine config is nice to have but not necessary.

I was talking about the current Ukrainian engine,TF-10000 not ready yet.

 

[Afif]

View attachment 76566 Kızılelma with Karat IRST and Toygun EOTS if Baykar actually manages to hit their production goals with this setup Aselsan is going to make insane amounts of money

At that angle, wouldn't Karat partially block the radar looking up? @TheInsider @Sanchez

 

[IC3M@N FX]

I was talking about the current Ukrainian engine,TF-10000 not ready yet.

Sorry, my mistake, but I don't see any significant difference between the two engines we can see here.
In itself, an engine like the GE-F404 is actually the ideal engine, but it is too expensive for a drone that is calculated from the outset as a loss system (combat).

For the Ivchenko Progress AI‑322F, the thrust‑to‑weight ratio is calculated as:

Maximum thrust divided by engine weight (including gravity),
that is:
24,500 N ÷ (560 kg × 9.81 m/s²) ≈ 4.46

For the TEI TF‑10000, the thrust‑to‑weight ratio is calculated as:

Maximum thrust divided by engine weight (including gravity),
that is:
44,500 N ÷ (950 kg × 9.81 m/s²) ≈ 4.77

 

[Strong AI]

Wow

The VTOL UAV developed by TAI

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1947603058189328403

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946140116411469907

 

[Sanchez]

At that angle, wouldn't Karat partially block the radar looking up? @TheInsider @Sanchez

Even if it did Loss of FOV would be miniscule compared to what Karat brings and it could always just point up 10 degrees for 30 seconds.