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Spike NLOS equivalent. 100%
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That tail shot view is awesome, wonder if Baykar are planning on integrating some sort of IRST type software that could passively search and track air targets
Some I can think of
Spike variants, man portable loitering anti-tank missiles
Catapult launched loitering munitions, small tactical UAS that can be deployed and used by smaller units.
Decoy drones
MR-SAM like Barak 8. Medium range missiles with short range BMD capability that can be used in variety of platform, modules. Maybe Tozkoparan will be an similar concept.
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Mahmut Akşit, General Manager of TEI:
> The integration of TEI-PD170 to the Aksungur platform is about to be completed by TAI, and flights with Aksungur are expected to start in the coming weeks.
> It is planned to deliver a total of 23 engines to TAI in 2021 for the Anka and Aksungur platforms.
> In addition, 3 engines were delivered to Baykar for integration to Baykar platforms and ground tests.
Well here we have it.
The Answer why AKSUNGUR is not ready, the PD-170 Engine isn't even integrated yet and will be flown with for the first time in the next weeks.
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This looks like old news that's been regurgitated.
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I cant seem to find it. But there is one Website reporting it.
TEI-TS1400 motoru 2023'te GÖKBEY ile uçuşa hazır olacak
TEI Genel Müdürü Prof. Dr. Mahmut Faruk Akşit, TEI-TS1400 motorunun 2023'te uçuşa hazır olacağını belirtirken TEI-PD170 motorunun ise Aksungur platformuna entegrasyon çalışmalarının tamamlandığını söyledi.
> But there isn't a Source given, which is weird for sure.
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ASELSAN CATS FLIR statement from Selçuk Bayraktar
Baykar Defence Chief Technology Officer Selçuk Bayraktar commented about CATS Electro-Optic Electro-Optical Reconnaissance, Surveillance and Targeting System, developed by ASELSAN
“The camera was made by ASELSAN years ago. It sees it as very successful, marks it, its has been exported domestically or even abroad. I’m saying these to the ones who are happy like the embargo is just recent; you can still be crazily entertained like the satan.” said Selçuk Bayraktar about this topic.
In the past hours, Canada had cancelled all of the military export permissions to Turkey. Foreign Ministry of Canada made an explanation saying that all of the military exporting permits for Turkey, which were suspended last fall, have been definitely cancelled starting 12/04/2021.
Due to the usage and role of the AUAVs-that are made and developed in Turkey- by Azerbaijan Armed Forces during the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, Canadian government laid an embargo on Turkey. Developed by Canadian company L3Harris WESCAM, the MX-15 FLIR is an important component of Turkish AUAVs.
According to the decision made on laying an embargo on Turkey by Canada in the past months, Baykar Defence and ASELSAN integrated the CATS system to Bayraktar TB2 AUAVs. The CATS integrated Bayraktar TB2 AUAV had a succesful Roketsan MAM-L ammunition shooting. ASELSAN is continuing to develop a more sophisticated version of the CATS system, the ASELFLIR-F500C.
Bayraktar TB2, CATS and MAM-L
In November 2020, Turkey’s national AUAV Bayraktar TB2 performed an important test with ASELSAN CATS FLIR systems which’s integrational proceedings have been continuing. Taking-off from Baykar Flight and Education Centre with Roketsan-made MAM-L(Mini Smart Ammunition) on its wings, Bayraktar TB2, completed a succesful laser targeting mission with the domestic-made camera system CATS.
Shot from long distance via laser targeting
Launched from Bayraktar TB2, MAM-L, shot the target with full success at high altitude from long distance. The target was marked by CATS. Within the test flights, CATS’ capability in following high speed targets and its ability to ‘lock’ on targets were tried out. The national camera system passed all tests succesfully.
ASELSAN CATS FLIR statement from Selçuk Bayraktar
Baykar Defence CTO Selçuk Bayraktar commented about CATS Electro-Optic Electro-Optical Reconnaissance, Surveillance and Targeting System, developed by ASELSAN
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Turkey to roll out defense products as foreign interest gains pace
There is vivid interest in Turkey’s defense industry products from countries all around the world, Defense Industries Presidency Chairperson Ismail Demir...
Indicating that there are circles engaging in disinformation and trying to discourage purchases from Turkey, Demir once again mentioned the fake news on the KARGU, claiming that it poses risks due to its autonomous capacity.
“KARGU is a product that decides and is commanded completely with human initiative. Turkey is extremely sensitive in determining targets,” he stressed, saying that Turkey has the capability but did not install it in the product.
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Yeah, just see the recent "news" on Turkish "use" of child soldiers which was actually referring to proxies and with zero evidence provided.Turkey to roll out defense products as foreign interest gains pace
There is vivid interest in Turkey’s defense industry products from countries all around the world, Defense Industries Presidency Chairperson Ismail Demir...www.dailysabah.com
Indicating that there are circles engaging in disinformation and trying to discourage purchases from Turkey, Demir once again mentioned the fake news on the KARGU, claiming that it poses risks due to its autonomous capacity.
“KARGU is a product that decides and is commanded completely with human initiative. Turkey is extremely sensitive in determining targets,” he stressed, saying that Turkey has the capability but did not install it in the product.
BTW, I guarantee that at least one of those interested countries is Spain.
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Could this be related to cargo VTOL project? Maybe this is the one that can carry 150kg? I don't think its based on Mosquito
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A cargo VTOL is probably an intermeshing type; that is two rotors up top slightly offset. This is known to have the max lift but poor speed (?).
ÇRH – Ucankaya
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(Thank you Oryx. )
Arsenal of the Future: The Akıncı And Its Loadout
Oryx Wednesday, June 30, 2021
By Stijn Mitzer and Joost Oliemans
The Bayraktar Akıncı is set to introduce a number of novel capabilities to the field of unmanned aerial warfare when it enters service with the Turkish Air Force later this year. These include several features not seen on any other type of UAV in the world before, most notably the ability to launch 250+km-ranged high-precision cruise missiles and beyond-visual-range air-to-air missiles (BVRAAMs) at targets as far as 100 kilometres away. These capabilities in practice turn the Akıncı into the first production multi-role unmanned combat aircraft in the world, and set the stage for increasingly effective replication of legacy aerial assets by unmanned counterparts.
Apart from debuting this unique set of abilities, the Akıncı also significantly expands on Turkey's existing unmanned warfare capabilities through a massive increase in payload capacity compared to systems such as the Bayraktar TB2 and TAI Anka. In addition to enabling the carriage of guided bombs that were too heavy to be carried by these UAVs, the Akıncı's increased payload capacity also allows for a far greater number of smaller munitions such as the MAM-L to be carried. Indeed, up to 24 MAM-Ls can be brought to bear by the Akıncı compared to four on the TB2, positioning the Akıncı as the perfect system to annihilate entire armoured columns in just one sortie or to support friendly offensives by picking off enemy targets in support of advancing ground forces. In the latter role its 24(+)-hour endurance make it a particularly patient lurking threat.
As Baykar continues weapons systems integration on the Akıncı prior to its operational debut, several types of guided munitions are currently being tested to verify their use from the new platform. This already included a new member of the MAM family of smart munitions that was first tested in April 2021: The MAM-T with a range of just under 40km (compared to upwards of 14km on the MAM-L). The MAM-T will serve alongside the Teber, LGK, KGK and (L)HGK family of precision-guided munitions also destined for use on the Akıncı. These munitions consist of indigenously designed guidance kits mated to locally produced Mark-82, Mark-83 and Mark-84 iron bombs. As is evidenced by this rapidly growing family of ordnance, Turkish precision-guided munitions are being introduced as swiftly as the drones destined to carry them.
Especially the 900kg weighing Mark-84 is a daunting piece of armament, and also the heaviest bomb ever to be integrated on a drone. When fitted with a GPS/INS guidance kit, the bomb is known as the HGK-84. The HGK-84 can attain ranges of up to 28km (or 22km when launched from lower altitude), while a different variant known as the LHGK-84 is fitted with a laser-guidance kit for increased accuracy. [1] Yet another variant, the NEB-84, is a (guided) penetrator bomb designed for use against hardened surface and underground targets such as bridges and bunkers. The only other operational drone in the world capable of carrying the Mark-84 (through its U.S. guided variant the GBU-31) is the jet-powered General Atomics Avenger, a number of which operate on behalf of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
To accommodate the seemingly endless variety of munitions, the Akıncı features up to eight underwing hardpoints and another one under its fuselage for a total of nine hardpoints. The latter is set to carry the heaviest ordnance cleared for carriage on the Akıncı, comprising the HGK-84 and the SOM-series of cruise missiles. A typical loadout could consist of two KGK-82 glide bombs with wing kits on the inboard pylons, two Teber-82 precision-guided bombs and eight MAM-Ls, as shown in the rendering below. This allows the Akıncı to set out to engage some high-value hardened target at long range, come across a convoy of enemy vehicles along the way and promptly destroy it, and then continue on to complete its mission.
Although already an unusually diverse platform, the Akıncı's huge payload capacity of 1.350kg, the variety of its weapon loadouts and its 24+-hour endurance mean that it is also well suited to take over many of the ground attack missions currently assigned to Turkey's 240-strong F-16 fleet. Replacing the F-16 in at least some of these roles frees up precious airframes which can then be used for air-to-air combat roles, at least partiallly decreasing the gap left now that Turkey has been excluded from the F-35 project as a result of its decision to purchase the Russian S-400 surface-to-air missile (SAM) system.
Arguably the most innovative aspect of the Akıncı is its capability to use air-to-air missiles (AAMs), consisting of the indigenous Bozdoğan IR-guided AAM and the (fire-and-forget) Gökdoğan BVRAAM, which uses an active solid-state radar to guide itself towards its target. The Akıncı's AESA radar should enable it to autonomously pick out its targets at great range, and then engage them with either to hunt enemy slow-flying aircraft, drones and helicopters and to guard other drones. Though BVRAAM-armed Akıncıs would present a greater challenge than most air forces could hope to face, medium-range AAMs like the Bozdoğan could present a threat even to opposing fighter aircraft, being fast, very manoeuvrable (having off-boresight capabilities) as well as highly resistant to electronic countermeasures. Both of these missiles are currently still in development, and will likely take several years before complete integration on the Akıncı platform.
Another feature is the ability to carry several variants of the SOM family of cruise missiles designed to be used against enemy command posts, SAM sites, ships or any other target that requires a precision hit with a 230kg heavy explosive warhead. Though two variants of this family were designed specifically to be used against naval vessels, the range of the much smaller MAM-T already exceeds the air defence systems on all but four of the Greek navy's ships. Though those are unlikely to be used in that role, this fact shows how swiftly the capabilities UCAVs and the precision-guided munitions they can carry have grown in the past decades.
Once in active service, the Bayraktar Akıncı will herald a new chapter in unmanned warfare – whether by firing cruise missiles at enemy targets from well within friendly airspace, destroying underground bunkers with NEB-84 penetrator bombs, bringing armoured columns to a grinding halt with up to 24 MAM-L munitions, targeting enemy air defence systems well outside of their range or by shooting down enemy aircraft, UAVs and helicopters. The variety in weapon loadouts means the Akıncı can easily be repurposed to carry out other tasks during the same (day-long) mission, allowing greater flexibility in operations than any drone of the past.
For countries interested in buying the Akıncı the fact that all the munitions (and their guidance kits) used for these tasks can be sourced directly from Turkey will surely be appreciated as well. Furthermore, the fact that the new UCAV adheres to the NATO standards for munitions means that NATO countries can integrate other or local manufactured munitions on the Akıncı. This does not extend to NATO countries only, and countries that are currently developing their own precision-guided munitions such as Azerbaijan and Pakistan can expect relatively simple integration (or even Turkish support with doing so) with the Akıncı. Its attractiveness to foreign customers might be precisely what ensures the Akıncı's success, escaping the fate of a number of promising UCAV designs the world over that were ultimately only produced in scarce numbers. As such, it may well soon secure its role as one of the most significant upheavals in the annals of unmanned warfare.
www.oryxspioenkop.com
Arsenal of the Future: The Akıncı And Its Loadout
Oryx Wednesday, June 30, 2021
By Stijn Mitzer and Joost Oliemans
The Bayraktar Akıncı is set to introduce a number of novel capabilities to the field of unmanned aerial warfare when it enters service with the Turkish Air Force later this year. These include several features not seen on any other type of UAV in the world before, most notably the ability to launch 250+km-ranged high-precision cruise missiles and beyond-visual-range air-to-air missiles (BVRAAMs) at targets as far as 100 kilometres away. These capabilities in practice turn the Akıncı into the first production multi-role unmanned combat aircraft in the world, and set the stage for increasingly effective replication of legacy aerial assets by unmanned counterparts.
Apart from debuting this unique set of abilities, the Akıncı also significantly expands on Turkey's existing unmanned warfare capabilities through a massive increase in payload capacity compared to systems such as the Bayraktar TB2 and TAI Anka. In addition to enabling the carriage of guided bombs that were too heavy to be carried by these UAVs, the Akıncı's increased payload capacity also allows for a far greater number of smaller munitions such as the MAM-L to be carried. Indeed, up to 24 MAM-Ls can be brought to bear by the Akıncı compared to four on the TB2, positioning the Akıncı as the perfect system to annihilate entire armoured columns in just one sortie or to support friendly offensives by picking off enemy targets in support of advancing ground forces. In the latter role its 24(+)-hour endurance make it a particularly patient lurking threat.
As Baykar continues weapons systems integration on the Akıncı prior to its operational debut, several types of guided munitions are currently being tested to verify their use from the new platform. This already included a new member of the MAM family of smart munitions that was first tested in April 2021: The MAM-T with a range of just under 40km (compared to upwards of 14km on the MAM-L). The MAM-T will serve alongside the Teber, LGK, KGK and (L)HGK family of precision-guided munitions also destined for use on the Akıncı. These munitions consist of indigenously designed guidance kits mated to locally produced Mark-82, Mark-83 and Mark-84 iron bombs. As is evidenced by this rapidly growing family of ordnance, Turkish precision-guided munitions are being introduced as swiftly as the drones destined to carry them.
Especially the 900kg weighing Mark-84 is a daunting piece of armament, and also the heaviest bomb ever to be integrated on a drone. When fitted with a GPS/INS guidance kit, the bomb is known as the HGK-84. The HGK-84 can attain ranges of up to 28km (or 22km when launched from lower altitude), while a different variant known as the LHGK-84 is fitted with a laser-guidance kit for increased accuracy. [1] Yet another variant, the NEB-84, is a (guided) penetrator bomb designed for use against hardened surface and underground targets such as bridges and bunkers. The only other operational drone in the world capable of carrying the Mark-84 (through its U.S. guided variant the GBU-31) is the jet-powered General Atomics Avenger, a number of which operate on behalf of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
To accommodate the seemingly endless variety of munitions, the Akıncı features up to eight underwing hardpoints and another one under its fuselage for a total of nine hardpoints. The latter is set to carry the heaviest ordnance cleared for carriage on the Akıncı, comprising the HGK-84 and the SOM-series of cruise missiles. A typical loadout could consist of two KGK-82 glide bombs with wing kits on the inboard pylons, two Teber-82 precision-guided bombs and eight MAM-Ls, as shown in the rendering below. This allows the Akıncı to set out to engage some high-value hardened target at long range, come across a convoy of enemy vehicles along the way and promptly destroy it, and then continue on to complete its mission.
Although already an unusually diverse platform, the Akıncı's huge payload capacity of 1.350kg, the variety of its weapon loadouts and its 24+-hour endurance mean that it is also well suited to take over many of the ground attack missions currently assigned to Turkey's 240-strong F-16 fleet. Replacing the F-16 in at least some of these roles frees up precious airframes which can then be used for air-to-air combat roles, at least partiallly decreasing the gap left now that Turkey has been excluded from the F-35 project as a result of its decision to purchase the Russian S-400 surface-to-air missile (SAM) system.
Arguably the most innovative aspect of the Akıncı is its capability to use air-to-air missiles (AAMs), consisting of the indigenous Bozdoğan IR-guided AAM and the (fire-and-forget) Gökdoğan BVRAAM, which uses an active solid-state radar to guide itself towards its target. The Akıncı's AESA radar should enable it to autonomously pick out its targets at great range, and then engage them with either to hunt enemy slow-flying aircraft, drones and helicopters and to guard other drones. Though BVRAAM-armed Akıncıs would present a greater challenge than most air forces could hope to face, medium-range AAMs like the Bozdoğan could present a threat even to opposing fighter aircraft, being fast, very manoeuvrable (having off-boresight capabilities) as well as highly resistant to electronic countermeasures. Both of these missiles are currently still in development, and will likely take several years before complete integration on the Akıncı platform.
Another feature is the ability to carry several variants of the SOM family of cruise missiles designed to be used against enemy command posts, SAM sites, ships or any other target that requires a precision hit with a 230kg heavy explosive warhead. Though two variants of this family were designed specifically to be used against naval vessels, the range of the much smaller MAM-T already exceeds the air defence systems on all but four of the Greek navy's ships. Though those are unlikely to be used in that role, this fact shows how swiftly the capabilities UCAVs and the precision-guided munitions they can carry have grown in the past decades.
Once in active service, the Bayraktar Akıncı will herald a new chapter in unmanned warfare – whether by firing cruise missiles at enemy targets from well within friendly airspace, destroying underground bunkers with NEB-84 penetrator bombs, bringing armoured columns to a grinding halt with up to 24 MAM-L munitions, targeting enemy air defence systems well outside of their range or by shooting down enemy aircraft, UAVs and helicopters. The variety in weapon loadouts means the Akıncı can easily be repurposed to carry out other tasks during the same (day-long) mission, allowing greater flexibility in operations than any drone of the past.
For countries interested in buying the Akıncı the fact that all the munitions (and their guidance kits) used for these tasks can be sourced directly from Turkey will surely be appreciated as well. Furthermore, the fact that the new UCAV adheres to the NATO standards for munitions means that NATO countries can integrate other or local manufactured munitions on the Akıncı. This does not extend to NATO countries only, and countries that are currently developing their own precision-guided munitions such as Azerbaijan and Pakistan can expect relatively simple integration (or even Turkish support with doing so) with the Akıncı. Its attractiveness to foreign customers might be precisely what ensures the Akıncı's success, escaping the fate of a number of promising UCAV designs the world over that were ultimately only produced in scarce numbers. As such, it may well soon secure its role as one of the most significant upheavals in the annals of unmanned warfare.
Arsenal of the Future: The Akıncı And Its Loadout
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don't know where to share but here are some issues of armada free to download from their own website
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of interest would be this issue
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Issue - April/May 2021 - Armada International
This is the April/May 2021 issue of Armada International. This is not the latest issue. To read other issues of the magazine, please subscribe here: Subscribe for Civilian Subscribe for Serving Military Editorial Topics: Commander’s Intent: Evolving Agile and Flexible Command at Sea: Commodore...
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If you ask me they are probably talking about Altinay Albatros 150kg
| ALBATROS 50 KG | ALBATROS 100 KG | ALBATROS 150 KG | |
| CARGO UAV | CARGO UAV | CARGO UAV | |
| TAKE OFF WEIGHT: | 195 kg | 370 kg | 630 kg |
| USEFUL LOAD: | 50 kg | 100 kg | 150 kg |
| FLIGHT SPEED: | 65-85 km / s | 70-95 km / s | 70-95 km / s |
| FLIGHT TIME: | 60 dk | 60 dk | 60 dk |
| FLIGHT DISTANCE: | 30 km | 30 km | 30 km |
| FLIGHT ALTITUDE: | 3000 m | 3000 m | 3000 m |
| OPERATING TEMPERATURE: | -20°C & +50°C | -20°C & +50°C | -20°C & +50°C |
| NUMBER OF ENGINES: | 12 | 16 | 20 |
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Turkish UAV [And other Unmanned systems] Development and Fielding
https://www.wsj.com/articles/armed-low-cost-drones-made-by-turkey-reshape-battlefields-and-geopolitics-11622727370
www.secretprojects.co.uk
The spike however begin to broaden at L and VHF band."
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More sources sharing the same info. There must be a reason for mr Aksit to mention it.
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Then it did fly with PD-155 earlier and now going to fly with PD-170, finally we can see it fully equipped..
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"So i did my estimate on TB-2's Radar Cross Section. got to say it's a clever design. By focusing the largest spike upward. It shows RCS optimization against ground based radars at least up to S-band. Which pretty much those one may encounter in tactical situations (most if not all ground based Mobile air defense's radar are in S-band).Turkish UAV [And other Unmanned systems] Development and Fielding
https://www.wsj.com/articles/armed-low-cost-drones-made-by-turkey-reshape-battlefields-and-geopolitics-11622727370
The spike however begin to broaden at L and VHF band."
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