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Footage of the work of the Russian MLRS "Grad" after the impact of the Ukrainian rocket MLRS Himars. The Ukrainian army, conducting aerial photo reconnaissance with a drone, noticed the Russian installation of the Grad MLRS, after which the Himars MLRS struck with precision weapons. Despite the close impact of the Himars MLRS rocket, the Russian Grad MLRS continued to carry out its combat mission and launched missiles. The crew apparently worked remotely from cover.






A German Leopard 2A6 tank of the Ukrainian army, possibly abandoned by its crew, came under attack from a Russian Lancet kamikaze drone. A kamikaze drone hit the back of a Ukrainian Leopard 2A6 tank where the ammunition is located, judging by the video, the shells did not detonate, but the tank was damaged.






Battle of the BMP M2A2 Bradley of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye region. An episode of the battle with the use of the American BMP M2A2 Bradley by the Ukrainian army has been published. This is footage of a battle dated June 8, when a large convoy of Ukrainian M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and Leopard 2A6 tanks, as a result of an attack on Russian positions, was hit by mines and hit by Russian artillery. The video is shortened, showing the fire of an M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicle and a vehicle of the same type hitting a mine. After that, the Ukrainian soldiers put up a smoke screen and try to evacuate, at which point the shooting of the battle stops.



 

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Sumy. The moment of the "Shahed" strike of Russian terrorists on a residential building. One person died, 16 people were injured



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Zaporizhzhia. Photo of the consequences of the night shelling of the Kushugum community. Russian terrorists launched S-300 in Kushugum and Malokaterinivka. There is a lot of damage to the residential sector, roofs have been demolished, windows and doors have been broken, - the head of the community

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Honestly that is to be expected
I know many people here believe that the Russians suck and never learn but that is quite wrong tbh. While the Russians absolutely suck, they do learn albeit at an extremely low pace

The reasons why such companies arent even boosting their production speed is probably due to supply lines delays.... and whether they will sort them out in time or not is something that only the future will tell

Meanwhile, Ukraine still hasnt built the necessary defence industry infratsructure within its lands, its counter-offensive has yet to bear fruit and a war of attrition is more likely to be the end result

By that point, the West will force Ukraine for a peace treaty no doubt! USA already had its main objective done by bleeding the Russians out! Killing more than 230k Soldiers from a 1M army is already an amazing feat. The US didnt even send a soldier yet destroyed around 20-35% of Russian military and racked billions of dollars for the weapons industry

The current counteroffensive will be the final act for Ukraine. Either they prove to the West they can win by making decisive gains such as capturing both Tokmak and Melitopol or the peace treaty is on its way to Ukraine's doorsteps
 

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Honestly that is to be expected
I know many people here believe that the Russians suck and never learn but that is quite wrong tbh. While the Russians absolutely suck, they do learn albeit at an extremely low pace

The reasons why such companies arent even boosting their production speed is probably due to supply lines delays.... and whether they will sort them out in time or not is something that only the future will tell

Meanwhile, Ukraine still hasnt built the necessary defence industry infratsructure within its lands, its counter-offensive has yet to bear fruit and a war of attrition is more likely to be the end result

By that point, the West will force Ukraine for a peace treaty no doubt! USA already had its main objective done by bleeding the Russians out! Killing more than 230k Soldiers from a 1M army is already an amazing feat. The US didnt even send a soldier yet destroyed around 20-35% of Russian military and racked billions of dollars for the weapons industry

The current counteroffensive will be the final act for Ukraine. Either they prove to the West they can win by making decisive gains such as capturing both Tokmak and Melitopol or the peace treaty is on its way to Ukraine's doorsteps
why are you using ukranian sources for the russian KIA? You know well that they are based on fiction and propaganda, use US sources which say around 50k, which is waaaay less than 230k.
 

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The longer this war goes on the more balance will be shifted in favor of Russia. Ukraine has to gain something with this offensive. Nato might decide to play a bigger hand by giving Ukraine longer-range missiles and fighter aircraft like F-16s but eventually, war comes down to who has more items. Airdefence missiles for the Ukranian systems will dry up, ammo stocks will dry up, barrels start cracking, etc. NATO countries eventually will feel the fatigue of war as none of those systems are free in fact NATO systems are really expensive.
 

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why are you using ukranian sources for the russian KIA? You know well that they are based on fiction and propaganda, use US sources which say around 50k, which is waaaay less than 230k.
Honestly, it doesnt make sense
If the Russians truly only lost 50k soldiers while doing their worst then Russia actually performed well in this war

The only reason that makes me believe that Russia suck is that they managed to lose a whopping 230k in only 1.5 years which is logical considering the poor quality of their troops, their suicidal attack waves and the fact that they retreated from Northern Kherson and Kharkiv. If the US's estimate of 50k losses only is true, then Putin could have at least protected the Northern Kherson front by putting a massive meat wall of 50k soldiers to try and tire the Ukrainian army

That is why Iam more inclined to believe in the Ukrainian estimate
 

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The longer this war goes on the more balance will be shifted in favor of Russia. Ukraine has to gain something with this offensive. Nato might decide to play a bigger hand by giving Ukraine longer-range missiles and fighter aircraft like F-16s but eventually, war comes down to who has more items. Airdefence missiles for the Ukranian systems will dry up, ammo stocks will dry up, barrels start cracking, etc. NATO countries eventually will feel the fatigue of war as none of those systems are free in fact NATO systems are really expensive.

agreed, the war of attrition will of course benefit a country with bigger population and one of biggest military industries in the world. NATO is already running out of heavy armour to provide to Ukraine, and providing brand new equipment takes too long and is too expensive. Eventually Ukraine will reach critical levels, unless NATO provides a very large number of aircraft, things are not looking good for Ukraine.
 

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Honestly, it doesnt make sense
If the Russians truly only lost 50k soldiers while doing their worst then Russia actually performed well in this war

The only reason that makes me believe that Russia suck is that they managed to lose a whopping 230k in only 1.5 years which is logical considering the poor quality of their troops, their suicidal attack waves and the fact that they retreated from Northern Kherson and Kharkiv. If the US's estimate of 50k losses only is true, then Putin could have at least protected the Northern Kherson front by putting a massive meat wall of 50k soldiers to try and tire the Ukrainian army

That is why Iam more inclined to believe in the Ukrainian estimate
50K deads, hundred thousand more WIA, more reasonable
 

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agreed, the war of attrition will of course benefit a country with bigger population and one of biggest military industries in the world. NATO is already running out of heavy armour to provide to Ukraine, and providing brand new equipment takes too long and is too expensive. Eventually Ukraine will reach critical levels, unless NATO provides a very large number of aircraft, things are not looking good for Ukraine.
Make no mistake about it, the West isn't actually running out of anything critical, it simply comes down to the political will to support things. Here are some examples.

Main Battle Tanks

The United States 🇺🇸 has more than 5500 M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams MBTs. More than 3000 of those tanks are being stored, with no intention of using them again, as the U.S. continues production of newer versions to replace them. The United States has committed 31 of those Abrams to Ukraine (they'll arrive in the fall) and could easily send them 500 of them (pulled from storage) without degrading their Army's fighting capacity at all. The Marine Corps literally just retired more than 400 M1A1 Abrams as they move to lighter vehicles, and had no plans for those tanks moving. They could be sent to Ukraine by year's end, without the U.S. military blinking

Germany 🇩🇪 and Belgium 🇧🇪 have a combined more than 350 Leopard 1 MBTs in storage. Some of those Leopard 1s belong to arms dealers, who supply want to sell them to the Western governments at hyper inflated prices. Again, that's a political decision to negotiate for them, but those Leopard 1s are absolutely available. 130 of them have been promised so far. 220-300 have not been, but could be.

Germany 🇩🇪 and their private industry also have approximately 50 more Leopard 2 MBTs in storage, requiring modernization before being sent to Ukraine. This can be done at any time. Rheinmetall can get several out the door each month, they just need somebody to pay for the contract. Meanwhile, they're buying 25 more back from the Government of Switzerland 🇨🇭 than which can also be sent. I estimate that Getmany (through private industry) could send upwards of 75 more Leo 2's to Ukraine, without taking anything from their own army.

Poland 🇵🇱 has purchased 1000 new K2 MBTs from South Korea 🇰🇷 and 250 Abrams from USA 🇺🇸 Their plan is plan is only to feature 2 MBTs in their army, which means the remainder of their PT-91 Twardys and many (eventually all) of their Leopard 2s can be sent to Ukraine as their new MBTs arrive. They possess approximately 100 PT-91s and T-72s that are completely expendable at this point and could be send to Ukraine ASAP. As for Leopard 2s, they probably won't send anymore right now, but as their Abrams' arrive, they could probably send 40-50 more prior to the end of 2023 and into early 2024.

Britain 🇬🇧 has approximately 230 Challenger 2 MBTs, of which, less than 150 are planned to be upgraded to Challenger 3 and remain in service into the future. Britain has donated 14 Challenger 2s to Ukraine. They could triple that number to 42, without changing any of the long term plans for their tank fleet.

Czech Republic 🇨🇿 has been modernizing T-72s bought up from around the world by third parties and sending them to Ukraine. Thus far they've modernized about 60 of the initial 90 that were purchased from third partied by USA 🇺🇸 and the Netherlands 🇳🇱 . Another 40+ are already marked for the next contract, as the world is scoured for more sellers. By time that Czech initiative is complete, they'll likely to have send more than 150 modernized T-72s to Ukraine, paid for by third parties. They have about 90 more to go.

Between Canada 🇨🇦, Spain 🇪🇸, Sweden 🇸🇪, Finland 🇫🇮, Norway 🇳🇴, Greece 🇬🇷 and Portugal 🇵🇹 there are roughly 40-50 more Leopard 2s that could be donated as soon as a couple months from now. Again, there would have to be the political will to make it happen.

Both Cyprus 🇨🇾 and Morocco 🇲🇦 have significant numbers of T-80 and T-72 MBTs that they are looking upgrade with Western tanks. Morroco is purchasing an undisclosed number of Israeli Merkava 2/3 MBTs and the rumor is that the West is going to buy all 158 of them (T-72B3), further upgrade them and send them to Ukraine. Meanwhile, Cyprus has 82 T-80s that Ukraine also wants. Cyprus is rumored to be the second European buyer of the Merkava 2/3s. We could very well see a Western deal where NATO countries purchase the Israeli tanks for Cyprus, in exchange for their T-80s, which would then go to Ukraine.

Pakistan 🇵🇰 is another interesting source for tanks. The Pakistanani economy is in shambles and they've already been selling arms to Ukraine through British funding and German ports. Pakistan has 320 T-80UD MBTs that were sold to them by Ukraine. The Pakistani government has made it clear that at the right price, they'd be willing to sell some of them back. How many exactly it's hard to say, but it certainly wouldn't be an insignificant amount.

Finally, Ukraine 🇺🇦 has anywhere from 300-500 T-64, T-72 and T-80 MBTs in longer term storage. It was announced just recently that Ukraine is partnering with Rheinmetall to modify, modernize and repair these stored tanks. Ukraine will send their own engineers and experienced employees to Germany and they'll run the project, with the help of Rheinmetall employees, at their German facilities.

Right there I just showed you 1000-1500 more MBTs that the West could purchase for / send Ukraine, without taking away from their own combat units at all. That represents more tanks more tanks that Ukraine has had since the beginning of the conflict.

How about infantry fighting vehicles?

The United States 🇺🇸 is building 700 new Bradley M4s and will be replacing nearly 1000 Bradley M2 ODS (the model being sent to Ukraine). The USA can easily afford to send 500-700 of the older Bradley variant to Ukraine. They have more than 4500 of them in operation and they've only committed about 150 of them to Ukraine so far.

Britain 🇬🇧 has more than 700 Warrior IFVs that they are in the process of being replaced, with deliveries having already started this year. While it will be some time before all of their older Warriors are expendable, they're certainly able to ship a percentage by year's end. The first 100 Warrior IFVS could be in Ukraine by the fall if the political will to get them there exists.

Similarly to Britain, Germany 🇩🇪 has approximately 400 Marder IFVs that they are in the process of replacing with Boxer AFVs. Germany industry has between 100-200 more in storage. The Germans have committed to sending 60 Marders to Ukraine so far. They could easily double that number by the end of 2023, simply by paying to have private industry sell them out of storage.

Between Sweden 🇸🇪, Norway 🇳🇴, The Netherlands 🇳🇱 and Finland 🇫🇮. they have more than 1000 CV90 IFVs. Thus far Sweden has stepped up to send 50 of them to Ukraine. Those 4 countries could easily combine to double that number to 100, sending an additional 50..

France 🇫🇷 has 250 AMX10-RC AFVs that theybare currently replacing. They've committed 40 to Ukraine so far. They could easily double that number to 80, by sending 40 more, as the vehicle is being phased out of their military.

Poland 🇵🇱 is sending Ukraine 150+ Rosomak IFVs in a deal that was announced last month. Some number of those units can and will be sent to Ukraine right away, with Poland backfilling their own military using newly purchased ones as they roll off the assembly line. Roughly 100 will enter Ukraine during 2023, with the rest to come throughout 2024.

There is roughly 1000 more IFVs that could be donated in very short order, without damaging the integrity of the militaries of any of those nations.

Therefore, I just listed upwards of 2500 MBTs and and IFVs that the West could easily send. None of it's new and none of it is imporant to the fabric of any Western military. I could go on and do the same with armored personnel carriers, MRAPs and artillery, but I think you get the point. It's not correct that the West is running out of armor to send Ukraine. They have more that they could afford to send in the future, than they've already donated to this point. It's all about political will power, Ukraine's continuing will to fight, and how badly NATO wants to neuter the Russian Army.
 

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50K deads, hundred thousand more WIA, more reasonable
Considering that war numbers are almost always in line with a 3 to 1 WIA to KIA figure, and considering the 50,000 number that people are referencing is already a couple months old...

My best guess at Russian casualties (including Wagner) is about 60,000 KIA , 180,000 WIA and 5000 POW, for a total of 245,000 casualties / captives.

If I had to guess at Ukraine's real numbers, I would say something like 40,000 KIA, 120,000 KIA, 2000 POW, for a total 162,000 casualties / captives.

Purely and educated guess at this point.
 

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Western Media are such bullshit liars.

Who created such a bullshit false narrative that Russia is running out of weapons or they barely have any stock.

Weapon factories are still making weapons.

What Ukraine needs is long range capabilities to strike Russia's weapons factories.

The Allies won WW2 due to them striking Germany's weapon factories.

Give the Ukrainian what they need instead everybody is beating the bush with bullshit lies.

So many Ukrainian lives would not be thrown away.
 
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