Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

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It's really sad seeing kids get hurt in a war they know nothing about ☹️


But on the other hand, there is no evidence that Russia targeted the building or even the damage was done by a cruise M.

Where is the video that shows this evidence?

We have seen the pics of the KH-101 which differ from the one that hit the hospital.

This is the KH-101
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Now compare it to this

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Which actually looks more like AIM-120 AD of Ukraine.


@Mis_TR_Like , bro, when will you add a Facepalm emoji on the posts?
 

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Double standards. Russia is a mean evil empire and Israel is a saint and a friend of the west.
Nope. Both are just self-interested parties and we choose sides based on which party better serves our own self interests. Anyone telling you anything to the contrary is full of shit.
 

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For the record, Biden's "historic announcement" about air defense systems for Ukraine was partially, but not completely lame. NATO is going to deliver 5 additional strategic air defense batteries to Ukraine. 4 Patriot batteries and 1 SAMP/T battery... Here is the problem, all 5 of these systems were already announced and the German system arrived in Ukraine over the weekend. So these are not 5 newly announced systems today, rather, they are the following systems that I have posted about in this thread for the last six weeks.

Patriot Battery #1: USA 🇺🇸
Patriot Battery #2: Germany 🇩🇪
Patriot Battery #3: Romania 🇷🇴
Patriot Battery #4: European Union 🇪🇺
SAMP/T Battery #1: Italy 🇮🇹

Now to the part that is actually interested. Biden noted that NATO will deliver dozens of air defense systems over the coming weeks and months. These will not be strategic systems, rather point defense systems. We know what many of these systems are because they have been on order / already announced, however, I am expecting more to be announced. These systems include:

8+ NASAMS Baterries: USA 🇺🇸
15 Gepard Systems: Germany 🇩🇪
8 IRIS-T SLM Batteries: Germany 🇩🇪
10 IRIS-T SLS Systems: Germany 🇩🇪
2 Skynex Systems: Germany 🇩🇪
RBS-70 NG Systems: 🇦🇺
Mistral Air Defense Systems: Estonia 🇪🇪
HAWK Systems: 🇺🇸
HAWK Systems Spain: 🇪🇸
HAWK Systems Sweden: 🇸🇪

Obviously there are more to come that we don't yet know about, but this is what has been announced / confirmed.
 

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Where was he when the IDF was busy bombing hospitals and killing thoudans of children in GAZA.


Clowns!
Look in the mirror man lol. Do you think that the Czech Republic 🇨🇿 gives a crap about what's happening in Gaza, half a world away, where they have no political or military influence?

They care about what's happening in Ukraine because it's virtually next door and they're a former Soviet country that the Russians want back under Russian influence. They're worried about their own backyard, not Gaza / Israel.

By your same ridiculous rhetoric where is the outrage from
Jordanian 🇯🇴, Qatari 🇶🇦 or Yemenese 🇾🇪 politicians about what Russia is doing in Ukraine? Hypocritical monsters, right?... Of course not, they're worried about the political affairs in their own region.

As if you think the Czech Republic 🇨🇿 has any influence over Israel 🇮🇱, or that the Czechs should be worried about the ongoings in Gaza. It's a 16 hour drive, by road, from Prague to Kyiv. That's why they care.
 

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Double standards. Russia is a mean evil empire and Israel is a saint and a friend of the west.
this why among the moslem countries, level of support for UA decline so fast n now in lowest level, but it doesn't mean we support Rusia, not at all, Gary maybe, but we don't now what Gary gender is
 
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Where is the video that shows this evidence?

We have seen the pics of the KH-101 which differ from the one that hit the hospital.

This is the KH-101
View attachment 69404


Now compare it to this

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Which actually looks more like AIM-120 AD of Ukraine.
BBC is an independent, non-governmental organisation with a news department known for its high reporting standards. Have a look at the BBC video:


If they are right in reporting the sound of a turbojet coming from the missile it is not possible that it was a rocket powered missile.

PS A clearer image here. That is not an AIM-120. It looks like a KH-101 cruise missile.

 
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Look in the mirror man lol. Do you think that the Czech Republic 🇨🇿 gives a crap about what's happening in Gaza, half a world away, where they have no political or military influence?

They care about what's happening in Ukraine because it's virtually next door and they're a former Soviet country that the Russians want back under Russian influence. They're worried about their own backyard, not Gaza / Israel.

By your same ridiculous rhetoric where is the outrage from
Jordanian 🇯🇴, Qatari 🇶🇦 or Yemenese 🇾🇪 politicians about what Russia is doing in Ukraine? Hypocritical monsters, right?... Of course not, they're worried about the political affairs in their own region.

As if you think the Czech Republic 🇨🇿 has any influence over Israel 🇮🇱, or that the Czechs should be worried about the ongoings in Gaza. It's a 16 hour drive, by road, from Prague to Kyiv. That's why they care.
Wow!

I wonder why they cared when they were sending weapons to Isra during the Arab war.


I wonder why they voted against Palestine state in the UN.

I wonder why they voted against a seize fire in Gaza or what their business even attending in the first place, what's German business supporting Israel? Why should the USA come all the way from America continent to support Israel not even close to it backyard.

Qatar and Jordan have condemn Russia invasion of Ukraine...Yemen is out of the question.
 

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Nope. Both are just self-interested parties and we choose sides based on which party better serves our own self interests. Anyone telling you anything to the contrary is full of shit.
That's probably the most legit and true post I've read from you.
 

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Thanks to geopolitical struggles we get these awesome tunes.
Who knows how many sales this song will achieve. Songs with such remarkable music, voices and lyrics are few and far between...

...thank goodness. What a ghastly heap of sh*t that song is.
 

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Assuming that was a Russian missile(still no photo ops of the bodies) more kids probably died in Chicago in a single day than the reports they are giving with no proof. If this brands them as giant tyrants assuming that wasn't retaliation for the beach strike they might as well go full Israeli style on this war.
 

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NATO summit declaration got released: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_227678.htm

Some highlights, though overall it's pretty unimpressive:

New rhetoric:

The just released declaration states that Ukraine's membership in NATO is irreversible: "we will continue to support it on its irreversible path to full Euro-Atlantic integration, including NATO membership. We reaffirm that we will be in a position to extend an invitation to Ukraine to join the Alliance when Allies agree and conditions are met. The Summit decisions by NATO and the NATO-Ukraine Council, combined with Allies’ ongoing work, constitute a bridge to Ukraine’s membership in NATO."

Military aid commitments:

NATO will provide minimum €40 billion in military-only aid in 2025:

"We affirm our determination to support Ukraine in building a force capable of defeating Russian aggression today and deterring it in the future. To that end, we intend to provide a minimum baseline funding of €40 billion within the next year. ... In addition to military support covered by this pledge, Allies intend to continue providing political, economic, financial, and humanitarian support to Ukraine."

However, it's worth noting that this is not new aid. "All Allied support for Ukraine according to the above criteria would count, whether delivered through NATO, bilateral, multilateral, or by any other means." In other words, this is a confirmation that a minimum of $40 billion will be delivered in 2025.

Establishment of NSATU:

The NATO Security Assistance and Training for Ukraine (NSATU) will "coordinate the provision of military equipment and training for Ukraine by Allies and partners. Its aim is to place security assistance to Ukraine on an enduring footing, ensuring enhanced, predictable, and coherent support." NSATU will operate in Allied states, additionally there will be a newly appointed senior NATO representative to Ukraine in charge of the partnership and coordination.
 

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