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They aren't doing fine they have GIANT problems. Most importantly Pakistani flag not flying over Kashmir.

You can't sleep easy when your enemies can evaporate you too.
You have somewhere to draw the line, cut your losses and move on while waiting your opportunity, nuclear deterance is must have if you want to be listened at all and not pawned around by stronger and bigger guys.

maybe you can not sleep easy but i would not sleep at all if i know that i could do nothing about it.
 

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Haha it is clear now thay this is a war not inly on ukraine , the timing is a big proof that all these moves going accordingly , they will take turkey hostage and then take control .
Georgia and other small countries on the way , this desicioun was approved between all yhe big players in the dark rooms .
United states and russia both agreed on destroying turkey and everyone that want to help them .
Its just a matter of time
Turkey should get ready for the worse case scinario
 
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You have somewhere to draw the line, cut your losses and move on while waiting your opportunity, nuclear deterance is must have if you want to be listened at all and not pawned around by stronger and bigger guys.

maybe you can not sleep easy but i would not sleep at all if i know that i could do nothing about it.
It's a non-issue if you have a strong economy, strong army, and strong international relationships.

Ukraine became this way because they were too slow to act and they didn't get the international support that they hoped for.
 
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Haha it is clear now thay this is a war not inly on ukraine , the timing is a big proof that all these moves going accordingly , they will take turkey hostage and then take control .
Georgia and other small countries on the way , this desicioun was approved between all yhe big players in the dark rooms .
United states and russia both agreed on destroying turkey and everyone that want to help them .
Its just a matter of time
Turkey should get ready for the worse case scinario
lol what? what does RUssia tying up some loose ends in the post soviet republics have to do with Turkey?
 

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In eastern Ukraine, Russian separatists have occupied 3/1 of Donetsk and Luhansk administrative regions. And they claim the entire territory. It is possible that the occupation will grow and spread to the whole region...


Meanwhile, the separatists have already begun to claim the entire prefecture. Conflict with the Ukrainian army is only a matter of time.
 

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It's a non-issue if you have a strong economy, strong army, and strong international relationships.

Ukraine became this way because they were too slow to act and they didn't get the international support that they hoped for.
Bro, strong economy will not save you either international relations if you are caught between crosshairs.

Ukraina was naive and trusted that song from Toto Cutugno is real thing.
 
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In eastern Ukraine, Russian separatists have occupied 3/1 of Donetsk and Luhansk administrative regions. And they claim the entire territory. It is possible that the occupation will grow and spread to the whole region...


Meanwhile, the separatists have already begun to claim the entire prefecture. Conflict with the Ukrainian army is only a matter of time.
I doubt it.

Starting a war now would be too much risk. Unless Ukraine attacks first.
 
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Bro, strong economy will not save you either international relations if you are caught between crosshairs.

Ukraina was naive and trusted that song from Toto Cutugno is real thing.
Strong economy would have saved them.

If they had nukes the result would be the same. What are they going to do? nuke thier own cities?

It's not a computer game my man.
 

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Strong economy would have saved them.

If they had nukes the result would be the same. What are they going to do? nuke thier own cities?

It's not a computer game my man.
How? More toys for defense, not would happen, only you are "crazy" enough to go in partnership with Ukraina for serious weapon systems.

I doubt it would, Russia would have to go different way then this blunt and harsh one. More maneouvering space for Kiev,

It is not, but it is still game based on calculus of all assets and variables, adding nuclear one makes more difficult for attacker to plan and play game.
 

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lol what? what does RUssia tying up some loose ends in the post soviet republics have to do with Turkey?

Istanbul. Istanbul is for the Russian Orthodoxy the same as Mecca for the muslims.

There are books, songs, plays, movies and poems in Russia about conquering Istanbul for centuries.

They see the Hagia Sophia as their own Al-Aqsa.

There are also plenty old Arabic narratives and hadith about great battles for Istanbul in the future, a 'second conquest' after Fatih Sultan's first conquest.
 
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How? More toys for defense, not would happen, only you are "crazy" enough to go in partnership with Ukraina for serious weapon systems.

I doubt it would, Russia would have to go different way then this blunt and harsh one. More maneouvering space for Kiev,

It is not, but it is still game based on calculus of all assets and variables, adding nuclear one makes more difficult for attacker to plan and play game.
If they were economically strong, nobody in their country would want it to be a part of Russia in the first place.

None of this would have happened.
 
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Istanbul. Istanbul is for the Russian Orthodoxy the same as Mecca for the muslims.

There are books, songs, plays, movies and poems in Russia about conquering Istanbul for centuries.

They see the Hagia Sophia as their own Al-Aqsa.

There are also plenty old Arabic narratives and hadith about great battles for Istanbul in the future, a 'second conquest' after Fatih Sultan's first conquest.

Don't make me laugh.

That ship sailed in 1952
 

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If they were economically strong, nobody in their country would want it to be a part of Russia in the first place.

None of this would have happened.
Bro, I am surrounded by southern Slavs, know mentality rather well, economy plays role only to certain level then history comes out and crash it..., probably same situation there.
 

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lol what? what does RUssia tying up some loose ends in the post soviet republics have to do with Turkey?
I dont have time to summurize the speech of putin , go and watch it yourself .
If after watching it you still dont get it then it is you're problem not mine .
You should focus more on history and reading between the linrs
 

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Dont make us laugh please this is a multi direction situation , it needs open minded people to talk about these stuff .
world is not that fancy and new that you think , it is the same old world but with modern cloths haha .
We are getting closer to the turning point , and only the people who knows how to play this game will go through it .
Sadly i think europe and the middile east u cluding turkey will get out of the game , sadly .
But who knows , no one can predict what will happen .
Don't make me laugh.

That ship sailed in 1952
 

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Ukraine will get devided to other pieces .
We all should predicted that the west wanted russia to take control of ukraine , and they will continue this play and let russia take control on all east side of ukraine
True ukrainians shoulx fight to the end because they lost everything .
No nato member ship .
The loss of donbas and other .
Thats what happens when you think the west will help you
 

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Russia did China a favor, it didn't call Nato's bluff during the Beijing Olympic Games, China doesn't want to see any disrutions during the Beijing Games, now right after the Olympic Games, Russia started to act.
 

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