Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[UkroTurk]

Destroyed Russian tug "Vasily Bekh" was with the "TOR" air defense system on board

TOR was created against cruise missiles)))

 

[Kathirz]

That doesn't give you the right to buy looted Palestinian gas especialy when the UN consider it an occupied land, Just a few weeks you were complaining about Turkey buying looted grain from Russia, that doesn't make any sence just hypocrisy.

Ask them directly:

EU renews its support for the Palestinian people with a €224.8 million assistance package - occupied Palestinian territory

News and Press Release in English on occupied Palestinian territory about Contributions, Food and Nutrition, Epidemic and more; published on 14 Jun 2022 by EC

reliefweb.int

I'm not going to stay in the debate about Israel-Palestine, I just want to say one can't put at the same level Europe and RF when we speak about "looting", we pacefuly pay for the goods to any other nation, while RF steals everything it could, grain, steel, civil planes, tv's, washing machines, computers, intelectual property...

 

[Sami1234]

Yes politics are not so easy as it could look like.

Israel doesn't threatens EU security from an occupied piece of land in the baltics, in fact, Israel helps to provide better security to EU, so it's an ally.
Israel is a democracy and the issue between Palestine and Israel comes from many years ago without any realistic solution in the short term.

But in the full scale war launched against an European country, yes it has a realistic solution: to defeat Russian Federation in the battlefield and in the economic field.

So even when we can do simils between RF and Israel, maybe like they use white colors in their national flags, the reality is completely different.

Ask them directly:

EU renews its support for the Palestinian people with a €224.8 million assistance package - occupied Palestinian territory

News and Press Release in English on occupied Palestinian territory about Contributions, Food and Nutrition, Epidemic and more; published on 14 Jun 2022 by EC

reliefweb.int

I'm not going to stay in the debate about Israel-Palestine, I just want to say one can't put at the same level Europe and RF when we speak about "looting", we pacefuly pay for the goods to any other nation, while RF steals everything it could, grain, steel, civil planes, tv's, washing machines, computers, intelectual property...

If we start justifying based on the threat we will give Russia a good reason to invade Ukraine, that's not a good take isn't?

What Russia is doing in Ukraine is the same as what Israel has done to the Palestinians even Russia recently brought in settlers to take Ukrainians homes. Europeans when buying gas from Israel are just being hypocrites one of the gas fields that Israel is stealing from is located 7km from Gaza.

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1537807400060715008

Okay, who is next? Any chance Joe Biden?

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1537807400060715008

Okay, who is next? Any chance Joe Biden?

Jokowi should visit Kyiv and ask what's the status of our missile contract with Artem.

 

[Lordimperator]

Jokowi should visit Kyiv and ask what's the status of our missile contract with Artem.

Good idea, after he went to Moscow.

 

[Jagdflieger]

It was a regular MANPADS:
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Amazing how many hit's this sturdy helicopter can take

 

[Kathirz]

If we start justifying based on the threat we will give Russia a good reason to invade Ukraine, that's not a good take isn't?

What Russia is doing in Ukraine is the same as what Israel has done to the Palestinians even Russia recently brought in settlers to take Ukrainians homes. Europeans when buying gas from Israel are just being hypocrites one of the gas fields that Israel is stealing from is located 7km from Gaza.

I don't have problems on discussing things... but I gave you a lot of info... in the article you may read also that part of the money is going to gas infraestrucures in Palestine... I don't see Palestine saying "Hey why are you sending me your money for free before signing a single agreedment?"

Giving a good reason to Russia?? They can create any excuse to invade any country without nuclear weapons.
But you may consider read what underlies the international law, a multilateral threaty, what happened in 91'... and come back to what we have here, a full scale war launched against an european country in XXI century for erasing them without even declaring it and using prohibited weapons against civilians.

You can be in favor of one side or another but, I consider the members of this forum smart enough to know there is no single reason to start this war but a falling empire trying to not lose its remaining political influence within its borders and in the rest of the world, breaking any international treaty and the law which RF is also responsible of enforcing it.

Creating doubts is part of war propaganda, I'm not going to fall on it. RF is in a proxy war against half of the planet.... and if you know what war times are, and you should know even better than me, you'll meet what allies diplomacy will do in those excepcional times.

That's why we see some people crying about Israel, USA, etc. We are assisting to how RF is losing a third of its military power, its ever fearful political influence, its good people, that sometimes good tastier propaganda, allies and also something very important in diplomacy, its truthfulness.


I think next year we are going to see cereal boxes in ukranian stores with the slogan "Tasty Orcs inside!" signed by Lavrov.

 

[UkroTurk]

Ha

If we start justifying based on the threat we will give Russia a good reason to invade Ukraine, that's not a good take isn't?

What Russia is doing in Ukraine is the same as what Israel has done to the Palestinians even Russia recently brought in settlers to take Ukrainians homes. Europeans when buying gas from Israel are just being hypocrites one of the gas fields that Israel is stealing from is located 7km from Gaza.

Ha ha ha if Ukrainians acted as in Jewish way, Armed force of Ukraine should reign European part of Russian Federation.

You should study "Kievan Rus". Russians are not pure blood slavians.

 

[Jagdflieger]

Ha Ha ha ha if Ukrainians acted as in Jewish way, Armed force of Ukraine should reign European part of Russian Federation.

Sami1234, did not state that Ukraine, but what Russia is doing to Ukraine is the same as what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.

You should study "Kievan Rus". Russians are not pure blood slavians.

What exactly are you trying to point out? I hope you are aware as to where the name RUSsia comes from. And that it was RUS people who started to settle/comquer the vicinity around Novgorod, founded a dozen of independent RUS states/fiefs along their conquest of todays Western Russia and the Baltics and started to settle/conquer around 100 years later in today's Kiew area again founding an independent fief/principalities termed Kievan RUS.
Kievan RUS proved to be the mightiest fief/principality and headed the Kieven RUS federation. (which was a lose alliance of around 12 RUS tribes/principalities - not a single nation or unified state).

After 200 years all the RUS principalities got wiped out by the Mongols. 200 years later members of the former RUS fief/principality of Smolensk settled on a river bank called Moskva and formed the Moskowiter RUS - hence-force freeing themselves from being a tributary state of the Mongol Golden Horde - and conquering in the next 300 years as of what later is known as the Czarist Russian Empire incl. Alaska.

 

[UkroTurk]

❗️Boris Johnson arrived in Kyiv without warning

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson arrived in Kyiv and meeting with President Volodymyr Zelensky

Head of the Office of the President Yermak has already told the details of the meeting: “We discussed with Boris about supplies of heavy weapons and air defense systems, economic support for Ukraine, increased sanctions pressure on Russia, in particular, the proposals of the McFaul-Yermak international group, as well as security guarantees for Ukraine and making Russians to compensate for the damage caused to our state,” said Andrey Yermak, head of the Presidential Office

❗️British Prime Minister Boris Johnson proposed to launch a large-scale training program for Ukrainian military personnel

Every 120 days, 10 thousand Ukranian soldiers will be sent for training

 

[Gary]

There is a report that Harpoons manage to sink a Russian tug.

 

[UkroTurk]

Lost 50%:
The Ministry of Defense for the first time announced the figures for the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in equipment during the war.

“We lost about 50%. This is about 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles, 400 tanks, 700 artillery systems,” Deputy Defense Minister Vladimir Karpenko said in an interview with National Defense.

And he added that international assistance covers only 10-15% of the needs of the Ukrainian army.

- Arestovich:
"Macron refused to transfer fighter aircrafts and tanks to Ukraine, which are the basis of a successful offensive.

Another proof that Europe does not want Putin's defeat,"

“In terms of anti-tank weapons, we are the most equipped army in the world” - Arestovich.

Arestovich spoke about the successful advance of our troops in the Kherson direction:

We have flashed photos where Kherson is already visible. It's about 15-18 km. It can be said that these counter-offensive actions threaten to develop into a counter-offensive any minute.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Amazing how many hit's this sturdy helicopter can take

Apparently just the one.

 

[Soldier30]

Russian troops launched a double missile strike with cruise missiles on military targets in Nikolaev in Ukraine

The Ukrainian army shot down its helicopter. The Ukrainian military said they shot down a Russian helicopter. But the authors of the video did not take into account that only the Ukrainian Air Force has white Mi-24s; they were used in UN humanitarian missions in the Congo. Zooming in on the camera, you can clearly see that the color of the helicopter that is shot down is white, Russian Mi-24 and Mi-35M helicopters are not painted white.

 

[Era_shield]

The Ukrainian army shot down its helicopter. The Ukrainian military said they shot down a Russian helicopter. But the authors of the video did not take into account that only the Ukrainian Air Force has white Mi-24s; they were used in UN humanitarian missions in the Congo. Zooming in on the camera, you can clearly see that the color of the helicopter that is shot down is white, Russian Mi-24 and Mi-35M helicopters are not painted white.

Cope status: seething and dilating

 

[UkroTurk]

323 children died as a result of Russia's full-scale war in Ukraine

In total, as of the morning of June 18, more than 906 children were affected. According to official information, 323 children died and more than 583 were injured.

Children suffered the most in the Donetsk region - 301, Kharkiv - 170, Kyiv - 116, Chernihiv - 68, Lugansk - 54, Kherson - 52, Mykolaiv - 48, Zaporozhye - 30, Sumy - 17.

On June 16, a 14-year-old teenager died as a result of an enemy rocket explosion on the territory of a residential building in one of the villages of the Pologovsky district of the Zaporozhye region.

On June 17, a 7-year-old boy was injured due to shelling by the invaders of Nikolaev.

On June 14, as a result of artillery shelling by the Russian troops, the village. Savintsy, Izyumsky district, Kharkov region, a 15-year-old girl was wounded.

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Last night, the Russians attacked on Odessa region with rockets flying from the territory of the annexed Crimea. Two missiles were shot down.


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The transfer of four American MQ-1C Gray Eagle drones to Ukraine may not take place: the Pentagon fears that the technology will fall into the hands of the Russians if they shoot down the drone.

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President Tokayev said that Kazakhstan does not recognize the "DNR and LNR".

Tokayev refused the Russian order

The President of Kazakhstan stated that he would not accept any orders until the end of his term. He politely refused the Order of Alexander Nevsky, which they wanted to award him in Russia, as he had previously refused the Order in Kyrgyzstan.

At SPIEF, Tokayev gave a resounding slap in the face to Putin, bluntly saying that he thinks about the quasi-states of the “LDNR” separatists.

 

[UkroTurk]

Russia suffers losses in three directions - General Staff

Russia loses about 200 people daily

The enemy suffered the greatest losses in the Slaviansk, Bakhmut and Krivoy Rog directions.

From February 24 to June 18, the total losses of personnel of Russian troops on the territory of Ukraine amounted to approximately 33,350 people (+200 per day). This was reported at the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

 

[UkroTurk]

Fact Sheet on U.S. Security Assistance to Ukraine

The United States has committed approximately $6.3 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since the beginning of the Biden Administration, including approximately $5.6 billion since the beginning

www.defense.gov

 

[Sami1234]

Give some lands...