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Hmm I could already see the uproar once this is brought to international attention. For every munitions they fire at innocent civilians the less there are for their own battlefield use and the more sympathy there are for Ukraine.

More sympathy most of the time will result in more weapons to KILL the russian invader.
 

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HIMARS destroyed more than 30 objects - the Ministry of Defense
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American MLRS HIMARS in Ukraine.



American HIMARS missile systems have already helped to destroy more than 30 logistics facilities of the Russian army, which significantly reduced the offensive potential of the invaders. This was stated by the speaker of the Ministry of Defense Alexander Motuzyanyk on the air of a nationwide telethon, Liga.NET reports.



Over the past weeks, more than 30 enemy military logistics facilities have been destroyed, which is why the offensive potential of the Russian occupation forces has now significantly decreased," the Defense Ministry spokesman said.

Motuzyanyk says that lend-lease for Ukraine will start around the end of September, when the US fiscal year ends and the so-called presidential aid program ends. The speaker of the Ministry of Defense noted that Ukraine expects a very positive effect from Lend-Lease, since the General Staff will determine for itself what weapons will be needed at that moment to resist the Russian invaders.

Earlier, Motuzyanyk said that Russia is conducting a campaign of missile terror against the civilian population of Ukraine in order to break the spirit and destroy the unity of Ukrainians.
 

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American HIMARS missile systems have already helped to destroy more than 30 logistics facilities of the Russian army, which significantly reduced the offensive potential of the invaders. This was stated by the speaker of the Ministry of Defense Alexander Motuzyanyk on the air of a nationwide telethon, Liga.NET reports.
I wonder as to what these HIMARS missiles actually really destroy.

Checking on the live war maps - the ones that every day relentlessly continue to bomb and shell Ukraine since the initiation of HIMARS are the Russians.
Let's see if these Russian shelling's come to a stop next week or ever.

latest news from Germany; NASA and Russia are cooperating again and plan to send astronauts/cosmonauts to ISS from September onward. The Russian chap who now heads Roskosmos is Vize-Minister Juri Borissow an outspoken Ukraine war advocate and former head of Russia's military industrial complex. who just last week ordered the change of Russia's manufacturing to war production. The reason from US side "we can't leave Outer Space to the Chinese" so much for sanctions towards Russia if direct US interests are involved. :rolleyes:
 
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The first MLRS 270 systems arrived in Ukraine

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M270, unlike HIMARS, move on tracks and has twice as many missiles - 12 versus 6 for HIMARS.

The first MLRS M270 multiple launch rocket systems arrived in Ukraine. This was announced on Friday, July 15, by Defense Minister Alexei Reznikov.

They will be good company for HIMARS on the battlefield," Reznikov wrote.

M270 from HIMARS, they differ in platform - M270 on tracks, as well as the number of missiles in the package - 12 versus 6 for HIMARS.

M270 MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System - multiple launch rocket system) are universal launchers of the American army with a caliber of 227 millimeters.

They can fire:

unguided rockets at a distance of up to 45 kilometers

high-precision missiles M30 and M31 for a range of up to 70 kilometers

ballistic tactical missiles at a distance of up to 300 kilometers

M270 MLRS installations are used for different purposes. If you need to "work" over a certain area at a relatively close distance, then they act as analogues of Grad and Smerch.

And if the task is to strike pointwise and at a more remote distance, then these launchers already serve as an operational-tactical missile system and are newer and more powerful analogues of Tochka-U (up to 120 kilometers), which Ukraine practically does not have.
 

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Chinese Firms Are Selling Russia Goods Its Military Needs to Keep Fighting in Ukraine​



Chinese exports to Russia of microchips and other electronic components and raw materials, some with military applications, have increased since Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine, complicating efforts by the U.S. and Western allies to isolate the country’s economy and cripple its military.

Chip shipments from China to Russia more than doubled to about $50 million in the first five months of 2022 compared with a year earlier, Chinese customs data show, while exports of other components such as printed circuits had double-digit percentage growth. Export volumes of aluminum oxide, which is used to make the metal aluminum, an important material in weapons production and aerospace, are 400 times higher than last year.

The rise in reported export values may partly be explained by inflation. But the data shows that many Chinese tech sellers have continued to do business with Russia despite U.S. scrutiny.
The Chinese exports, while just a sliver of the country’s overall exports, are a source of concern for U.S. officials. The Commerce Department added five Chinese electronics companies to a trade blacklist last month for allegedly helping Russia’s defense industry, both before the invasion and after it began.

“Our government and our national leadership has been very clear from February 24th on that China should not provide material, economic and military support for Russia in this war,” Nicholas Burns, the U.S. ambassador to China, said last week.

The Commerce Department said in a written response that while it didn’t believe China had sought to systematically evade U.S. export controls on Russia, the department was closely monitoring trade between the countries and “will not hesitate to employ our full legal and regulatory tools against parties that provide support to the Russian military.”

The China-Russia trade in chips and other components with potential military applications involves both small, private outfits and sprawling state-owned enterprises. Incomplete data and complex networks of subsidiaries and middlemen make it hard to trace all the activity.

Chinese officials have said the country isn’t selling weapons to Russia. And overall exports from China to Russia have fallen substantially this year as many Chinese companies fear running afoul of the U.S.

China’s support, broadly speaking, is critical to Moscow. Oil and gas revenues make up a sizable chunk of Russia’s economy. As European nations such as Germany seek to draw down Russian energy purchases, Russian President Vladimir Putin has stressed the importance of selling far more energy to China and others in Asia in the future.

China is also gaining leverage in its relationship with Russia. While China historically has relied on Russia, and before that the Soviet Union, for many advanced technologies, that is gradually changing as China closes the technology gap and emerges as a defense exporter in its own right.

Chinese leader Xi Jinping has repeatedly reaffirmed Beijing’s support for Russia, saying the two countries share a friendship with “no limits.”


A shared dissatisfaction with the U.S.-led post-World War II international system has gradually driven the countries together during Mr. Xi’s decade in power, despite a long history of strategic mistrust.


Researchers at C4ADS, a Washington-based nonprofit organization that tracks security threats, have been looking at trade between Russian defense firms and China Poly Group, a conglomerate controlled by China’s central government.

Poly’s subsidiaries include a key Chinese weapons producer and exporter of small arms, missile technology and, more recently, antidrone laser technology.

Between 2014 and January 2022, C4ADS researcher Naomi Garcia identified 281 previously undisclosed shipments of so-called dual-use goods, which have both civilian and military uses, from Poly subsidiaries to Russian defense organizations, she wrote in a report released on Friday.


In one of the most recent shipments, in late January, according to the research, Poly Technologies sent antenna parts to sanctioned Russian defense company Almaz-Antey. Ms. Garcia said she hasn’t discovered Poly shipments to Russian defense firms since the Ukraine invasion began in late February.

Russian customs records reviewed by C4ADS say the antenna parts were specifically to be used in a radar that is part of Russia’s advanced S-400 surface-to-air missile system. Russian media, citing the country’s Defense Ministry, has said the S-400 system has been used in the Ukraine war.

“Poly Technologies is undeniably facilitating the Russian government’s acquisition of missile-system parts,” Ms. Garcia said.

Poly Technologies was sanctioned by the State Department in January for engaging in proliferation of missile technologies. A State Department spokesperson said the sanctions were related to the company’s transferring of ballistic-missile technology to another country, but didn’t name which country.

Poly didn’t reply to a faxed request for comment and an official in its press office hung up when asked about its work with Russia. Almaz-Antey, Russia’s Ministry of Economic Development and Ministry of Industry and Trade, didn’t respond for comment.

Beyond radar components and semiconductors, Chinese exporters also have helped fill a gap in basic materials that Russia is restricted from sourcing elsewhere.

In March, Australia prohibited the export of aluminum oxide and several other related products, citing their use in weapons development. Since then, Chinese exports of aluminum oxide to Russia have surged, hitting 153,000 metric tons in May, according to Chinese customs records, compared with 227 metric tons in the same month the year before.

Unlike state-owned conglomerate Poly, the Chinese companies that were targeted most recently by the Commerce Department are small, private hardware distributors run out of Hong Kong and China’s southern province of Guangdong. While there is relatively little information about the size of business they do with Russia, some of the companies named by the U.S. openly advertised their defense work.

One of the firms, Winninc Electronics Co., previously said on its website that it was a top distributor “for industrial, military, aerospace, and consumer electronics manufacturers worldwide.” That language has since been removed. “Hope we can get through this,” the website now says.

Another of the targeted companies, Sinno Electronics Co., also until recently said on its website that it was a “cooperative partner” of publicly traded U.S. hardware manufacturers including Texas Instruments Inc. and Analog Devices Inc.

Texas Instruments didn’t respond to requests for comment. Analog Devices said it isn’t a partner of Sinno. It added that it had instructed its distributors to cease business with the company after the Commerce Department’s decision to blacklist it.

Sinno didn’t respond to a request for comment. A person who answered the phone at Winninc said the company wasn’t informed about the U.S. decision before it was made public but declined to comment further.

Maria Shagina, an expert on Russia sanctions at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in Berlin, said the latest action against the Chinese companies appeared to be intended to show that U.S. threats were credible, particularly considering how smaller companies may be better able to circumvent export controls than bigger ones.

“While the U.S. and its allies failed at deterrence with Russia, it’s important to prevent China early enough from systematically helping Russia,” she said.
 

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Chinese exports to Russia of microchips and other electronic components and raw materials, some with military applications, have increased since Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine, complicating efforts by the U.S. and Western allies to isolate the country’s economy and cripple its military....
Most likely Russia needs those chips so that NASA together with Roskosmos can send those astronauts to the ISS in September. ;)

So far I also haven't heard of the USA sanctioning those countries that despite agreeing to sanctions, unlike China, have sold military technology to Russia between 2014 and 2022.
 

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Chinese Firms Are Selling Russia Goods Its Military Needs to Keep Fighting in Ukraine​

The US is forcing the Russians to use tactical nuclear weapons. Or they will cut oil production at the expense of paying a price. They have nothing else to do.

However, if I were to write a hypothetical scenario, we could think that the Russian defense industry was mobilizing and working on interesting solutions in the background. But time is working against them. They don't have much time to come up with something solid.

I don't think they would worry about money at a time like this. Because they have hundreds or even thousands of tons of gold. Again, I think they can hire scientists from China and North Korea to work temporarily. Implicit technology transfer is not very difficult. For years, China has been transferring technology to Iran through front companies.

If they are not smart enough to think about these things, then there is no point in fighting for nothing. They are doomed to lose anyway...
I foresaw this reality. These are the information reflected in the research reports. We can only imagine what the relationships were like behind the scenes. It is certain that both countries did not sit idly by. By the way, I found the report in the news.

Chinese state-owned conglomerates trade in sensitive technologies with Russia's defense sector, including to companies involved in Russia’s ongoing war in Ukraine.
 

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I foresaw this reality. These are the information reflected in the research reports. We can only imagine what the relationships were like behind the scenes. It is certain that both countries did not sit idly by. By the way, I found the report in the news.

Chinese state-owned conglomerates trade in sensitive technologies with Russia's defense sector, including to companies involved in Russia’s ongoing war in Ukraine.
Well one needs to be careful in regards to such news/reports - independent of the USA engaging with Russia - they will also continue to make China look as the supposed bad warmongering danger compared to the so peace loving USA.
In general I would certainly not out-rule China trying to help Russia - after all a broken down Russia can't be in China's economic and security interest.
As for direct weapon supplies from China to Russia, I would rather say no. But technology transfer in order to balance between the USA and Russia, i am quite sure. Especially from China's view in regards to "unjust" sanctions imposed by the USA onto them and the continued incitement in regards to Taiwan and other issues.
 

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Ukraine's defence secretary Reznikov had an interview today with the BBC where he made several interesting statements:
- 50% of missiles targetting Ukrainian cities are shot down by missile defenses
- Ukraine has received 3 M270s (what @AlphaMike mentioned)
- Ukraine is not interested in F16s (Thomas Theiner on twitter had a thread listing some potential reasons why), but is interested in more fitting models, such as Sweden's Gripen
- he is confident Ukraine will get ATACMS (missiles for M142 and M270 with a range of 300km)

So Ukraine currently has 8 M142 and 3 M270. 4 more M142 on their way, Germany has promised 3 M270, and Norway has promised to give the UK 3 old M270 for modernization and to send to Ukraine.
 

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Ukraine's defence secretary Reznikov had an interview today with the BBC where he made several interesting statements:
- 50% of missiles targetting Ukrainian cities are shot down by missile defenses
Any other source for this? according to various daily live war maps the maximum is around 30% - and rather 20% at average.
 

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our defense hub bros



HIMARS hasnt prevented those gains despite how some have hyped it up here https://liveuamap.com/

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Ukraine will have their own version of this song to.
 
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