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Canada 🇨🇦 had a stockpile of 83,000+ CRV7, 70mm aviation rockets that it has retired and is now considering for transfer to Ukraine. A percentage of the rockets no longer have a warhead, but conservatively, 50,000+ of the rockets are in working order and could easily be used by Ukrainian combat helicopters, as well as their soon to be owned F-16s.

CRV7 performs in extremely similar fashion to U.S. Hydra 70 rockets, of which USA has already transferred 20,000 units to Ukraine. The CRV7 rockets have a range of 8km, with an effective range of more than 4km, making them an excellent CAS munition.

Canada is set to pay a multi-million dollar contract in the coming years to have their remaining CRV7 rockets decommissioned and disposed of by a private company. By sending them to Ukraine, they would both help the Ukrainian cause and save Canadian taxpayers money in decommissioning and disposal costs.

 
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Poland 🇵🇱 allocated a loan of an undisclosed figure to Ukraine for the direct purchase of weapons from Polish industry. The terms of the loan also were not disclosed, but Ukraine will use to funds to buy weapons directly from Polish manufacturers. Among the Polish manufactured weapons that Ukraine uses and would like more of are...

- KRAB 155mm, self-propelled howitzers.
- M120 RAK, 120mm self-propelled mortars.
- KTO Rosomak, infantry fighting vehicles.
- Piorun, MANPADS.
- Warmate kamikaze drones.
- 155mm artillery shells.
- 152mm artillery shells.
- 122mm artillery shells.
- 120mm mortar rounds.

Interestingly, as Poland massively overhauls their military power with the purchase of new MBTs, IFVS, artillery, fighters jets, etc, a lot of their Soviet era equipment is quickly becoming surplus and this loan could be used (along with other EU money) to purchase surplus weapons from Polish inventories, saving them substantial storage costs. It would also help offset the costs of all the new weaponry they've purchased over the last year.

Some items that Poland has substantial quantities of that will soon become surplus include...

- PT-91 Twardy MBTs.
- Leopard 2A4 MBTs.
- 2S1 Gozdzik self-propelled howitizers.
- BM-21 GRAD rocket artillery.
- BMP-1 IFVs.
- 2K12 KUB air defense systems.

 
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Technically a country can do whatever it wants, what it can't is to prevent what will be the consequence of that action.

Nobody can prevent Ukraine from aggressively provoking Russia by publicly announcing their intent to join a rival military alliance, but Ukraine can't prevent what will Russia do to defend itself and its interests.

This is the same in every country. Indonesia for example, could technically start developing nuclear weapons to defend itself, but something tells me the Americans and their allies will make sure life would be difficult for us, or even invade us like they did in Iraq with imaginary WMD as justification.

Of course, this kind of thing is something the common man can't and won't comprehend, but in politics, this is how it is done. Again Ukraine is free to do its own shit while completely ignoring the consequence of its actions, Russia on the other hand is free to do its own shit like declaring SMO and let Ukraine pay the consequence for the SMO.

Pretty simple, this is how it is done.

This guy sums it up. Something that liberal democracies failed to understand. And when Ukraine gets into trouble, they blame Russia

 

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Footage of the interception of two Ukrainian HIMARS MLRS missiles, manufactured in the USA, by the Russian Buk-M1 air defense system. It is difficult to intercept HIMARS MLRS missiles on the Buk-M1 air defense system, since the speed of HIMARS MLRS rockets is about 700 m/sec, and the flight speed of Buk-M1 missiles is 830 m/sec. But it is possible to intercept HIMARS MLRS missiles if the missiles are intercepted on a collision course. It is worth noting that the crew of the Buk-M1 air defense system must be experienced, since the HIMARS MLRS rockets are accompanied by the Buk-M1 air defense system radar for only 10-20 seconds.

 

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Everything east of the nearest major river is the goal. “The Russian Federation plans to seize the entire Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts and part of Kharkiv Oblast up to the Oskil River by March 2024,” the Ukrainian Center for Defense Strategies explained. The river threads through Kupyansk from the north.
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Why March? Because that’s when Russia will “vote” for “president” in a national “election.” In fact, Vladimir Putin is the only real candidate—and will maintain his brutal, dictatorial control over Russia and the Russian war of aggression in Ukraine.
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A slice of Kharkiv would be an election-day gift to Putin from the Russian army in Ukraine
 
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If Trump became POTUS, he will stop this war. Without US dollars and militairy support the Israeli comedian Zelensky cant holdout 1 day because the EU cant help Ukraine alone.

Offcourse if Trump doesnt get killed. They rather kill him than have to see him again in the White House.

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If Trump became POTUS, he will stop this war. Without US dollars and militairy support the Israeli comedian Zelensky cant holdout 1 day because the EU cant help Ukraine alone.

Offcourse if Trump doesnt get killed. They rather kill him than have to see him again in the White House.
Ukraine hasn't received aid from the US since December 27, 2023, and hasn't received significant aid since October.

Any US aid still delivered is miniscule and from what was announced/agreed upon months ago, since funding for Ukraine has been stuck in Congress since October. Yet somehow Russia continues to not make progress.
 

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Ukraine hasn't received aid from the US since December 27, 2023, and hasn't received significant aid since October.

Any US aid still delivered is miniscule and from what was announced/agreed upon months ago, since funding for Ukraine has been stuck in Congress since October. Yet somehow Russia continues to not make progress.

Russia doesnt have to make progress. They already reached their targets:

1. Keep Crimea
2. Annex the Donbass
3. Keep the pressure at the West and empty their stockpiles

The Soviet Union was a massive communist production state without unemployment.

They produced almost more weaponry than than the world combined. They have the longest breath in this game. The Russian people wont protest or march to the Kremlin.

Its not the same in the West. The Ukrainian war creates a big financial crisis in the West. The EU sends billions and billions and billions that they could use for their own housing, inflation and immigration crisis.

Everyone who thinks Russia bleeds more than the EU needs to wake up.
 

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Former company commander of the Aidar battalion, ATO veteran Yevgeny Dikiy noted that if the Russians could, they would have long ago created the demilitarized zone that they told about so long. Demilitarized zone would have reached Poland.

“If they had been able to , they would have made the entire territory of Ukraine, right up to the Polish border, a demilitarized zone.
They didn’t hide it much, and now they don’t hide at all that this is their goal. And they achieved from this goal what they could achieve.
I don’t see any new means that would give them the opportunity to achieve more. You say that they are fighting with old weapons - that’s true,” the expert said in an interview with Channel 24.
 

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Russia doesnt have to make progress. They already reached their targets:

1. Keep Crimea
2. Annex the Donbass
3. Keep the pressure at the West and empty their stockpiles

The Soviet Union was a massive communist production state without unemployment.

They produced almost more weaponry than than the world combined. They have the longest breath in this game. The Russian people wont protest or march to the Kremlin.

Its not the same in the West. The Ukrainian war creates a big financial crisis in the West. The EU sends billions and billions and billions that they could use for their own housing, inflation and immigration crisis.

Everyone who thinks Russia bleeds more than the EU needs to wake up.
This is the biggest cope I've ever heard and it shouldn't even be engaged with, but I'll indulge his lunacy.

Russia's goals at the outset of war were the following.

1. The fall of Kyiv and the sacking of the Ukrainian government, making Ukraine a vasal state of Russia, similar to Belarus.

Result: failed miserably. Kyiv is not in any form of jeopardy, and the population is firmly against the idea of falling under Russian influence. EU and Allied funding is ensuring that Ukraine's Government has plentiful funding for the foreseeable future.

2. Complete control of the Donbas.

Result: they're going to have to settle for partial control. The Ukrainian fortresses of Kramatorsk and Sloviansk are not even close to falling.

3. Fracturing NATO and isolating countries in Europe.

Result: Epic failure, with NATO standing firmly together and actually expanding their strength with the addition of two wealthy, militarily capable nations in Finland and Sweden that are geographically significant on Russia's border.

Here are the actual facts...

1. Russia occupies 18% of Ukrainian held territory at the beginning of the war.

2. Russia has suffered a 90+% casualty rate to the land army they invaded with.

3. Russia's vast Soviet stockpile is being burned through at an alarming pace and the land army they counted on sweeping over Ukraine has been plagued by issues ranging from professional capability, logistics, capability gaps, low morale and insubordination.

4. 20% of the "vaunted" Black Sea Fleet has fled to distant ports where it is stuck hiding from a country that doesn't even possess a convential Navy.

5. Not only has Europe been able keep Russia at bay by sending old, outdated equipment, they're also now starting to take the overhaul of their own military might seriously, at the same time that Russia's land army is being shredded for a generation. Germany 🇩🇪 , for example, committed to spending more than 100 Billion Euros to greatly revamp their land forces, buying modern, capable equipment. Poland 🇵🇱 is developing aruguably the steongest land army in Europe. Slovakia 🇸🇰, Czech Reuplic 🇨🇿, Romania 🇷🇴, Lithuania 🇱🇹, Britain, Sweden 🇸🇪 Finland 🇫🇮 France 🇫🇷 Norway 🇳🇴, etc, etc are doing the same. At the end of this conflict Europe will be much more militarily powerful and Russia will have lost an enormous amount of the Soviet stockpile that it resorted to in order to project power.

Russia 🇷🇺 is getting clowned by a country a fraction it's size, using equipment that is largely old Soviet crap and a small percentage of Western hand-me-downs.
 
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I'm going to start posting these in this thread because they're extremely relevant and they're released daily. For those of you who don't know who he is, Andrew Perpetua is a professional statistician that has been following the war in Ukraine since the outset. He uses video evidence only to geolocate the damaging, destruction and abandoning of military equipment in Ukraine. He's completely unbiased in his charting of equipment and releases the information on Ukrainian equipment destroyed in the same manner as Russian equipment.

For those that want to follow along, I'll post them each day, starting with yesterday's.

Saturday, Feb 3rd

 

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Per the Wall Street Journal, by employing start up businesses across the country, Ukraine is attempting to produce 1 million FPV, Kamikaze drones in 2024. The cheap drones, often costing less than $1000 each, are paired with an explosive warhead, some geared towards killing infantry, while others are equipped to take out armored vehicles.

Due to Russia's advantage in the artillery department and the fact that Russia continues in its attempts to advance on Ukrainian positions, Ukraine are using FPV drones as de facto short range artillery systems. With a max distance of 16.8km, and a more practical use distance of 8-10kms, DJI FPV drones are being used frequently, by both sides of the conflict. Ukraine, in particular, however, has used the drones well on the defensive. Ukrainian's use "elastic defense" to retreat to prepared positions as Russians use head on mechanized attacks. They then swarm the oncoming Russian meat / metal waves with a flury of kamikaze drones and a rationed number of artillery and mortar shells. Russians often abandon their equipment as it becomes disabled and Ukraine uses several additional FPV drones to finish off the damaged Russian armor and to mop up infantry, under the watchful eye of separate targeting drones perched high above the battlefield.

Ukraine has proven smart in that they know artillery shell production in USA and Europe is going to take time to ramp up. By 2025 it will no longer be a problem, but in the interim there will be shortages. In order to achieve a similar capability, FPV drones are an excellent stop gap and something that Russian's are having a hard time dealing with. Even if you send 10 drones after the same tank and 8 are unsuccessful due to a combination of EW countermeasures, user error, meteorological conditions, etc, it often only takes 2-3 strikes from drones to completely disable / destroy a much more expensive MBT / IFV / APC or SPG.

 

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Looks like at least some of S 300 from Greece will end up on Ukraine
"Summary: The U.S. has approved the sale of 40 F-35 jets to Greece, accompanied by a $200 million military aid package. As part of the deal, Greece will provide Ukraine with surplus Russian-made defensive systems, such as the Tor and S-300 anti-aircraft systems, following a direct request from the White House. This move signifies a strengthening of U.S.-Greek relations and supports Ukraine amidst ongoing conflicts."
 

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Russia doesnt have to make progress. They already reached their targets:

1. Keep Crimea
2. Annex the Donbass
3. Keep the pressure at the West and empty their stockpiles

The Soviet Union was a massive communist production state without unemployment.

They produced almost more weaponry than than the world combined. They have the longest breath in this game. The Russian people wont protest or march to the Kremlin.

Its not the same in the West. The Ukrainian war creates a big financial crisis in the West. The EU sends billions and billions and billions that they could use for their own housing, inflation and immigration crisis.

Everyone who thinks Russia bleeds more than the EU needs to wake up.
Do you think this war is happened because of Zelensky or Ukranians?
 

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Do you think this war is happened because of Zelensky or Ukranians?
Pardon me if im wrong, but is it not Putin's fault for the invasion? He has had Ukraine in his sights for a long time, like look at Crimea, thats been in Russian hands for almost a decade at this point. Putin really wants Ukraine it seems, even though the people obviously dont.
 

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This was so obvious.

Russian crude oil exported to China and India, turned into kerosine and gasoline and sold to Europe.

The only thing that hurts Russia is the 300 billion dollars of the RCB that the West wont give free.

But with the rest of the sanctions they just laugh about and wipe their asses off.
 
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