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Covert Cabal with another great video explaining exactly what I've been talking about... This time they're looking at the Russian 22nd centralized storage base that wad home to thousands of MBTs and IFVs at the beginning of the war. It's now down to 102 stored tanks, most of which need substantial refurbishment before they can be used in combat. That's only 13% of what they started the war with. There are also approximately 300 BMPs remaining, in mixed state of readiness.

As I've been saying, by the end of 2025 Russia will be nearly out of tanks and IFVs that is can pull from storage and easily restore. At that point, their "production" rates will bottom out because they've largely been bolstered by the fact that 80% of the "new" armor thry produce is actually refurbished equioment. As that source of equipment runs low, production is set to plummet... The Russians know it too.

If the West refuses to be short sighted, they'll see that another 1000'ish APCs, 700'ish IFVs and 400'ish MBTs is more than enough for Ukraine to ensure another year of fighting at the front, while Russia begins to run painfully low on anything one might call a modern MBT or IFV.

 

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Swiss is turning into a joke (I mean russia friend, we all knew it)
"GENEVA (AP) — The Swiss government said Friday it is barring exports to a Polish military hardware supplier after concluding that some 645,000 rounds of Swiss-made small-caliber ammunition ended up in Ukraine in violation of Swiss law.

Switzerland has been at pains to maintain its reputation for neutrality in the wake of Russia’s full-scale war in Ukraine. Last year, Switzerland insisted German-made tanks it had owned but decommissioned could not be sent to Ukraine."


The most important is that this ammo is in Ukraine :)
 

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As I've been saying, by the end of 2025 Russia will be nearly out of tanks and IFVs that is can pull from storage and easily restore. At that point, their "production" rates will bottom out because they've largely been bolstered by the fact that 80% of the "new" armor thry produce is actually refurbished equioment. As that source of equipment runs low, production is set to plummet... The Russians know it too.
I remember hearing at the start of the war the Russians will be out of missiles any day now or any minute now, and still we have western leaders that state they outproduce the EU. In order for the Russians to be out of tanks and IFVs the Ukrainians have to destroy far more Russian equipment than their own, but you failed numerous times to show this. Just like another user here can't refute this.
 

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The situation awareness is close connected with “wishful thinkings”. As the Germans say, ‚the wish is the father of the thought‘. Objective assessment on the ground is really rare here. Everyone has its own reality.
 

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I have some problems with important terms. “Attacking”. If some one was attacked first, and he respond with a back-strike, is that means attacking? It’s important in that way, that many countries have a military mutual assistance pact. These pact will triggered, if a member country will be ‘attacked’. But what happens if this country strike first.
 

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Attacking the biggest nuclear country and its territory with long range missiles is not reckless? You ok or just ignorant?
I don't like your manners too much. Perhaps you could cut back on the insulting arrogance?

The timidity of the west has allowed Russia to set the rules in this conflict. If the west wants Ukraine to survive, the west needs to allow its weapons to be used by Ukraine to strike inside Russia. If countries followed your logic an aggressor with atomic weapons could safely attack any country, knowing it would suffer no damage to itself.
 

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The timidity of the west has allowed Russia to set the rules in this conflict. If the west wants Ukraine to survive, the west needs to allow its weapons to be used by Ukraine to strike inside Russia. If countries followed your logic an aggressor with atomic weapons could safely attack any country, knowing it would suffer no damage to itself.
In this scenario, how could a Russian responds look like?
 

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In this scenario, how could a Russian responds look like?
What is the scenario? If you mean Russia being subject to Ukraine attacking Russian military assets within Russia used to attack Ukraine (air bases, command centres, ammunition dumps, factories producing military equipment and ammunition etc) I would expect Russia to intensify attacks on Ukraine. Starting a nuclear war because you have big problems winning a conventional war of aggression against another country seems unlikely to me. It is not as if Russia's existence is at stake. Ukraine is not trying to conquer Russia.
 
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it was reckless when most of nato sided with Russia when the Turks downed a Russian jet. That behaviour basically told the bully your all cowards. And when a bully feels impowered he attacks. I get it was more about white europeans hating brown muslims, but it still had the same effect.

After that it was reckless to not give the Ukrainians what they needed day one, it was then reckless to limit how they could use those weapons.

If the Russians are capable of starting a nuclear war then its inevitable. Or you accept that the Russians have the right to take over the world, you all bend over and let them claim all of Europe. Because your all kidding yourself that if you give Ukraine to Russia that peace comes next.

Truth be told if the world ends its probably going to be because of europeans. After all you gave the world war 1 and 2, you dropped atomic weapons on japan. Since the end of world war 2 the euro origin power have been behind nearly every conflict on earth. So my monies on europeans ending existence on this planet. Its what you guys do, terrorists become heroes, genocide becomes killing terrorists.

So i guess what im saying is, lets not be surprised if tomorrow a global nuclear war breaks out. The surprising thing is that it hasn't happened yet considering the non-stop instigations of war the US, Europe and Russia are constantly provoking across the globe. The crazy thing of course is that your all victims in this game. None of you accept guilt at all, while working day and night to accuse others of accepting guilt. Not for any moral purpose, but for geopolitical ambition only.

Actually we could go on and on about reckless behaviour.

Its reckless when france allies with Russia in Libya against Turkey and the recognised government.

Its reckless when america and russia work together in Syria against Turkiye.

It was reckless when europe sanctioned, embargoed and threatend us not to invervene in idlib pending an assualt by Russia.

It was reckless siding armenia against azerbaijan, armenia a russian shill and ally of iran while azerbaijan is a pro western nation.

We could go on and on about reckless behaviour. Just think europeans had you not been trying to bury Turkiye, we could have done a lot more to help Ukraine. But since we know your f'king us, were forced to walk a tight rope with Russia. In the end your really just f'king yourselves by harming Turkiye.
Europeans dropped atomic bombs on Japan? You are not very well informed about things..
 

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Swiss is turning into a joke (I mean russia friend, we all knew it)
"GENEVA (AP) — The Swiss government said Friday it is barring exports to a Polish military hardware supplier after concluding that some 645,000 rounds of Swiss-made small-caliber ammunition ended up in Ukraine in violation of Swiss law.

Switzerland has been at pains to maintain its reputation for neutrality in the wake of Russia’s full-scale war in Ukraine. Last year, Switzerland insisted German-made tanks it had owned but decommissioned could not be sent to Ukraine."


The most important is that this ammo is in Ukraine :)
Because Switzerland is about peace, negotiations and not war, like war mongers all over most other European countries and of course the USA.
 

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I don't like your manners too much. Perhaps you could cut back on the insulting arrogance?

The timidity of the west has allowed Russia to set the rules in this conflict. If the west wants Ukraine to survive, the west needs to allow its weapons to be used by Ukraine to strike inside Russia. If countries followed your logic an aggressor with atomic weapons could safely attack any country, knowing it would suffer no damage to itself.
There are lines that can't be crossed with a nuclear superpower, or do you expect that Russia would do nothing if they started attacking moscow with long range missiles? Or if hypothetically NATO would cross into Russia? etc? Because you seem to be under the impression that a Nuclear Superpower won't use nukes whatever lines are crossed just because..
Well you are very mistaken, especially with Putin who is not exactly a very stable person.
 

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In this scenario, how could a Russian responds look like?
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Probably striking France or the UK with their updated doctrine. But they got hit before with ATACMs and other long-range missiles so maybe eat the storm shadow, scalp and atacms missiles than carry on. The after results I have seen of them hitting Russia seem small.

New York Times is talking about giving Ukraine nukes so maybe the new signed doctrine is aimed at nuking the countries that gave Ukraine the nukes?

Edit: hopefully this escalates the war to move faster.
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We are playing the world's most retarded game of I'm-not-touching-you, where if we win we get nothing, and if we lose it ends all life on earth.
 
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There are lines that can't be crossed with a nuclear superpower, or do you expect that Russia would do nothing if they started attacking moscow with long range missiles? Or if hypothetically NATO would cross into Russia? etc? Because you seem to be under the impression that a Nuclear Superpower won't use nukes whatever lines are crossed just because..
Well you are very mistaken, especially with Putin who is not exactly a very stable person.
Putin has laid down many lines that cannot be crossed, backed by threats of going nuclear if they are. Many, if not all, have been crossed.

I suggested only that Ukraine strike military assets in Russia and assets used to produce weapons and ammunition. I did not suggest firing missiles at Moscow.

Agreed, Putin is not too stable. I am not sure Trump is, either. He is a narcissist who wishes to be the winner in every confrontation. It will be interesting to see who prevails if he gets involved with arranging one of his deals with Putin, one concerning the future of Ukraine.
 

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Putin has laid down many lines that cannot be crossed, backed by threats of going nuclear if they are. Many, if not all, have been crossed.

I suggested only that Ukraine strike military assets in Russia and assets used to produce weapons and ammunition. I did not suggest firing missiles at Moscow.

Agreed, Putin is not too stable. I am not sure Trump is, either. He is a narcissist who wishes to be the winner in every confrontation. It will be interesting to see who prevails if he gets involved with arranging one of his deals with Putin concerning the future of Ukraine.
You didn't really answer my question, you seem to be under the impression that Russia just simply won't ever resort to launching nukes even if its just one to make a statement.
So my question remains if moscow started to get attacked by long range missiles or if NATO crossed into Russia with serious intent and started attacking positions etc you think Russia would never resort to nukes?
 

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You didn't really answer my question, you seem to be under the impression that Russia just simply won't ever resort to launching nukes even if its just one to make a statement.
So my question remains if moscow started to get attacked by long range missiles or if NATO crossed into Russia with serious intent and started attacking positions etc you think Russia would never resort to nukes?
Israel didn't go nuclear when it got whacked by Iran. I think Putin is less evil and less batshit insane than Netanyahu
 

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it was reckless when most of nato sided with Russia when the Turks downed a Russian jet. That behaviour basically told the bully your all cowards. And when a bully feels impowered he attacks. I get it was more about white europeans hating brown muslims, but it still had the same effect.
And Non Turk will forget this. Nor forgive this.
 

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